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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:40PM Ganon255 said

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This is actually refreshing to hear. With most DLC it either comes out too late and I have already moved on to other games, or it comes out too early and I feel like it should have been included on the disc.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:40PM Jeremy White said

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Considering the length of most FF games, I'm sure I'll be fine without DLC.
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Posted: Jan 28th 2010 4:40AM (Unverified) said

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well as a FF fan i gotta say it feels short after you beat the game 13 chapters with 65 missions and most of your time will be spent on leveling all optima jobs ^_^

i know i have jp version.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:41PM aristokrat said

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So am I supposed to downvote you out of hand? I feel strangely compelled...
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:42PM aristokrat said

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Wow, if they make DLC the inevitable GOTY edition for Xbox will come in a suitcase.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:44PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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Because it's not on the blew-rahyz. I get it.

Har-dee-har har.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:48PM (Unverified) said

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"blew-rahyz"

I think I got that once.... Stupid bitch at the gas station
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:49PM aristokrat said

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Well, in fairness, I suppose they might need a second Blu-Ray as well. I was more making a joke about how sick I am of every game coming out with their GOTY or Complete version or whatever as an excuse to jack up the price instead of just dropping the price of the DLC. I'm quite happy to hear this game will actually be feature complete upon release.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:50PM (Unverified) said

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Except GotY editions are usually cheaper in the long run...

And FFXIII only uses a single-layer BD, so they wouldn't need two.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:58PM aristokrat said

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Fallout 3 was $60. LBP was $60. I can't think of too many more of the top of my head, but that's definitely the general impression I have.

Also, didn't know about the SL BD. Though I am confused as to how ~24GB over three discs for Xbox vs ~25GB for PS3 means that stuff had to get cut-out of and downgraded in the Xbox version (probably redundancies?).
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:03PM Mazrael said

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only a single layer??, Brad... so 25gb? thats 3 dvd's worth with a little compression... now I do feel a little cheated...
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:24PM Korwyn said

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trust me, after playing the Japanese version. I would be surprised if this game would even get to be GOTY at all. Definitely won't beat Mass Effect 2 as an RPG of the year. If it was released last year, the only award it might win would be the best looking game. But this year, it might not even win it.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:15PM sonicspike41 said

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Well your average dual-layer DVD is around 8GB, a little more I believe but that's beside the point.

FF13 will be on 3 of these DVDs. So 3*8=24, which is conveniently close enough to a single layer Blu-ray disc.

That's why they cut a games worth of content. They cut the entire second half of a dual-layer Blu-ray disc. Rather than have a 50GB game appear on 1 PS3 disc but 6 discs for the 360, they made a bunch of cuts and compromises to be "fair".
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:39PM Mazrael said

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I for one, would happily have 6 discs..
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:48PM aristokrat said

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I think it'd be pretty badass to have a game that long. You'd really feel a sense of accomplishment when you got to the 4th disk.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:43PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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I'm sure they'll add in some costumes or something.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:49PM AsherR said

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$4.99 per character costume.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:13PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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800 MS points you fool!
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 4:12PM (Unverified) said

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according to news its 2 layer blu-ray
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:44PM RogueJedi86 said

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Japan sure isn't getting how DLC works do they? America has it almost refined to a science, but Japan's still in the "debating whether or not to even try making DLC" phase. The question S-E should be asking is less "Should we make DLC?" and more "What kind of cool crap can we use as DLC?".

Sure we criticize Western developers for having DLC ready pre-launch, but at least they have a clue on what to do on the DLC front.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:54PM aristokrat said

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While it's overpriced, the only DLC I really enjoy is for multiplayer shooters, because it's nice to have something new injected in the playlists over time. Beyond that, most DLC just seems to be either stuff that should've shipped with the game or could just be in the sequel. Unless of course they just made a game a platform and continually released DLC for it (i.e. LBP), in which case I'm happy to pay for it. But the single DLC episode is pretty weak in my opinion.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:14PM (Unverified) said

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Wait, so now your defending DLC? I for one HATE DLC, it's half the damn reason I put dragon age aside for now. =/
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:44PM (Unverified) said

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The game is even more linear than other FFs and jrpgs, I'm wondering what the hell they would do with DLC anyway. They left themselves virtually no room to do anything in that aspect.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:48PM RogueJedi86 said

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They could use as DLC all the content that was dropped that resulted in FFXIII being such a linear game. Just a hunch. Adding enough DLC to turn a linear game into a sandbox roamer would be impressive indeed.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:51PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Side quests, costumes and extra areas to explore.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:52PM (Unverified) said

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"turn a linear game into a sandbox roamer would be impressive indeed"

Also damn near impossible. And the game is just as linear as FF X and I can definitely see how DLC could be used in that, hypothetically speaking of course.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:57PM (Unverified) said

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"Side quests, costumes and extra areas to explore"

Hard to do when you're virtually traveling in a straight line the entire time.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:15PM (Unverified) said

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If FFX was linear, and FFXIII is gonna be similar - im happy. FFXII was just too much for me. =/
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:20PM Wiizer said

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Why do you even add text to your FFXIII comments, tmac?

By the time I read them, they're completely whited out.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:24PM dannydesugmailcom said

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Think of what they add to the international editions of Final Fantasy, like in 10 with the extra bosses and the 'dark aeons'. Most of those additions would probably qualify as dlc nowadays.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 7:50PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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The core game is linear but there are still plenty of hunting quest missions to partake in the game. Lots of room for additional content ... have some imagination.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 7:57PM (Unverified) said

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Might want to deflect the imagination insults to the makers of your beloved jrpg genre. They need it much more than I do.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 9:05PM Railgun said

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Tmac

Have you played the game? I have, and there are plenty of ways for them to add side quests and extra areas.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 10:40PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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It wasn't an insult. I was actually trying to be nice in responding to your brain dead comment. If you can't see where additional content could fit into any game them you have no imagination. Period. That, or you are just trolling again.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:46PM (Unverified) said

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Hmm...well, at least we're getting a full game. Maybe they'll use that content for a full on-disc expansion? Or FFXV?
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:54PM Mazrael said

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there's a 10 year plan for this game.. they're bound to do something with this cut content

Option 1: 3 dlc packs at £10/$15, adding 250gs each (equivilent in trophies)
Option 2: Using the 'cut' content, make FFXIII-2
Option 3: Both!

Place your bets..
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 5:56PM (Unverified) said

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"there's a 10 year plan for this game.. "

It's not a 10 year plan for specifically FF XIII but for the crsyallia nova-something series.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:11PM Nate Addison said

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IT'S FABULA NOVA CRYSTALIS....GAWD!!!!!!....I kid...I'm sure theres several people that didnt know that...
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:00PM Cranky Penguin said

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SE deserves cheers for this, except for things like Rock Band I think DLC is an abomination and only gives developers a way to nickel and dime people to death by purposely excluding things from the final game that should have been there in the first place.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:00PM Funkmaster General said

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That's perfectly alright. I wasn't expecting any.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:04PM Uncontrol said

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I don't think Japanese consumers are entirely receptive to DLC, are they?
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:14PM Mazrael said

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Makes far more sense.. 10years of re playing 13 would be rediculous.. but if so far there's 13, VS & the PSP one.. how many more will be added before they mess up the events.. like FFVII has slightly different events in the reactor where Sephiroth lost it..
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:17PM Mazrael said

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that's a reply for Traceur_Ryuk..
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:15PM (Unverified) said

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i thought DLC had been around long enough for people to stop spouting "zomg!!11 it should be on the disc"
thanks for proving me wrong
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:28PM (Unverified) said

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Square Enix doesn't have a different definition of "asap", other developers just have a different definition of the word "finished". Need I say more?
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:20PM (Unverified) said

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Reviews from Japan indicate that this game is not as open world as previous entries in the series. Part of the fun of FFVII was exploring all around the globe, raising/racing chocobos, defeating previously unstoppable monsters, etc. If that's not what this game is about, then I don't want it. Can anyone confirm this?
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:21PM Wiizer said

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That the game's not FFVII?

Yes, I can confirm.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:37PM Kid Icarus said

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not a fan of linear rpg's here, I loved the open world exploring of FFVII and VIII.

I have to say my interest in this game went down because the linearity of it.
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Posted: Jan 28th 2010 2:44PM Elranzer said

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You should have compared it to Final Fantasy VI or Final Fantasy XII. They're the ones with the most open worlds of the series (not counting Final Fantasy XI Online).

FF7 was one of the more linear game actually.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2010 6:22PM RagingStormX said

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Well if they don't plan of it...thats fine. But I really see them testing the waters with this. They mention that a whole games worth of content was axed...so if gamers suddenly start chanting for MOAR ff13 content, SE can deliver with a $30-$40 price tag and have it semi justifiable. And every FF fan know that they will be there blindly with money in hand regardless.
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