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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 11:32AM Spike Spiegel Humble Bounty Hun said

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Hopefully it works this time around.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 12:10PM PlatinumSkeet said

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Well does this apply to the Skate 2 users that purchased the Replay Editor DLC?
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 12:15PM butaneko said

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No, just Skate 1
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 11:36AM Frivolous said

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Servers shuting down is what worries me about all of today's games (even single player) that depend on signing on to a server to play (i'm looking at you now UbiSoft)
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 11:36AM FredFredrickson said

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This is one of my biggest complaints about all the online services attached to games these days.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 11:50AM Vcize said

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Yet people go on and on about how dedicated servers are so much better.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 12:13PM FredFredrickson said

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Dedicated servers are better as an option. If your game doesn't support them at all, or if it uses only publisher-provided dedicated servers, than that's a problem.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 12:23PM MonkeyPunch said

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@ Vcize: that's because they are.

Take IW.net. If/when they decide to shut down MW2 functionality, the way it stands now you won't even be able to play MW2 online at all.

With dedicated servers it's basically ''power to the people'' and you'll have servers as long as people are playing and willing to make/rent servers.
You're not reliant on a companies keeping their servers or online services up.

Not to mention that dedicated servers are plain smoother to play on from a standpoint of power, ping and lag.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 12:38PM eat it said

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I'm confused, I was under the impression that MW2 is peer to peer. I mean I've been in dozens of games that have had host migration.

so wouldn't that mean that MW2 will be available online as long as there is XBL, PSN, steam? wouldn't that make it better than dedicated servers in this area?
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 8:17PM develin said

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@Space:
Don't forget, the Multiplayer match itself is Peer2Peer but finding games isn't. You still need a central server for that. Finding other players via P2P would be unreliable and time consuming. THAT is what you pay for on XBox live (the searching for games infrastructure including libraries is from and run by MS), not the actual playing of multiplayer games (as that is either P2P or in the case of EA or FF11 via the publisher's servers).

IW.net serves the same purposes, so that you couldn't find any games without it - at least if you don't hack the client.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 11:45AM s ls said

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Amazing how EA has shut down so many servers while a game like Socom 2 which came out in 2004 is still up and running on the PS2 online with about a few hundred players online at any given time.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 11:52AM Alan Smithee said

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If you think that's impressive, Quake III Arena, Starlancer, 4x4 Evolution, and other Dreamcast games are still online as well.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 11:47AM arrrgh said

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When EA can deliver a new skate game that is even REMOTELY close to being as good as the original Skate, I'll move on. Skate2 was a complete joke.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 12:13PM butaneko said

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May I ask why you think so? Seemed like mostly improvements to me.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 1:08PM arrrgh said

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The gameplay suffered severely. It seemed that while they added things like getting off the board and moving around equipment, they lost a lot of the magic that made the original so great. The animations seem clunky, the controls are nowhere near as smooth, and the whole game lacks the style which made the first game such a success out of nowhere.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 1:14PM arrrgh said

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oucchh downvoted :(

you guys were seriously happy with the way skate2 looked and played?

To me skate2 took a giant step in the direction of the tony hawk series rather than keep going with what I thought was the Skate direction of smooth lines and animation. Emphasis on style over anything else
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 7:05PM Omega2k3 said

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IT WAS THE SAME THING
But you could get off the board
Skate 2 is more fun

Haiku is awesome
For explaining that Skate 2
Is a better game
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 11:53AM pixelpushr said

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Listen up developers,

If you're going to eventually shut down your servers, then do not make online only achievements! EA is particularly bad about this.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 11:58AM Spike Spiegel Humble Bounty Hun said

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If you are taking down servers for your games, would it be that much of a pain to put in a quick update for P2P play? At the very least then some people who still want to play can. I am not developer so I have no idea if this is cost and time effective.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 12:17PM meatee said

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At this point, making any changes to a game that is already looking at its second sequel in just a few months is not going to be cost-effective.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 12:18PM Spike Spiegel Humble Bounty Hun said

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Well obviously. I am just speaking of newer and future games.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 12:25PM FredFredrickson said

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It wouldn't be easy unless the game was designed with that in mind from the start. Using user machines as hosts can mean a higher emphasis on optimization of data transfer, and would probably also require that you reserve some CPU power for keeping track of all the networked props in the game (normally these would be handled mostly by the server).
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 12:58PM Gemini Ace said

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This is why they should just allow you to upload directly to YouTube instead of using their crappy servers.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 2:10PM MonkeyPunch said

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@Space:

MW2 unfortunately does use ''listen servers'' (ie. p2p) but you have to go via their proprietary network namely IW.net.
No IW.net = no matchmaking = no Multiplayer

So 'no'. MW2 will not just be up as long as PSN, XBL and Steam are online. If IW/Activision decided to turn off MW2 functionality, that would be it and players would have no say in that.
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Posted: Feb 4th 2010 5:01PM JerichoReivaj said

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Gah!!! No Thats the only achievement I need!!! Damn need help to get it please. Just for the sake of having the game complete.
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