Sakamoto: Other M shows 'human side' of Samus

Prime > Super, but that's natural, because Prime > All

we're going to have some severe disagreements, aren't we, old man?

One Piece is awesome. Go back under your bridge, troll.

troll comment directed at EOM, not khan.

Human side of Samus? If I'm not mistaken, Samus has never really expressed emotion beyond shooting missiles.

I'm literally afraid of the combination of Team Ninja and human emotion. After playing DoA and Ninja Gaiden, I say keep them far away from that.

...human side ?

She was created by BIRD people !
BIRD !

Maybe this game can show the emotional roots and then show the bird side of samus !!! =O

Looks like I've got to set some records straight.

First of all, Metroid Prime is an awesome game, regardless of whether or not you believe it to be on par with Super Metroid.

Second, anyone who does believe that Metroid Prime is better than Super Metriod is wrong wrong wrong. They're both absolutely fantastic games but Super Metriod still manages to blow my mind on multiple levels to this day.

Third, One Piece is about as good as pop-anime gets, and the current story arc is all sorts of win and god.

Looks like I've got to set some records straight (which includes posting this in the right place this time).

First of all, Metroid Prime is an awesome game, regardless of whether or not you believe it to be on par with Super Metroid.

Second, anyone who does believe that Metroid Prime is better than Super Metriod is wrong wrong wrong. They're both absolutely fantastic games but Super Metriod still manages to blow my mind on multiple levels to this day.

Third, One Piece is about as good as pop anime gets, and the current story arc is all sorts of win and god.

I sound like a 4channer? Based on what?

You, on the other hand, sound like an asshole. I don't think I need to back that one up.

@ Darth

They're the same person, so you're right on both accounts.

He's made two accounts, because no one in their right mind would defend his stupidity... and quite frankly, his delusional tendencies, on this site.

Yeah, I'll agree that there is no way Prime is better than Super! It has to be a generational thing.

Though can I say that Zero Mission is highly underrated? 2D goodness with great graphics and all the added mechanics like wall hanging and such. Very, very good.

Wiizer, you sure you're replying to the right person? 'Right on both accounts' doesn't make sense as a response to what I was saying.

I'm all for the existence of emotions, but Samus never came across as a potentially "fragile" person. If anything, I could see Samus as being stoic, introverted and bottled up. I hope that, if she is going to have an emotional moment in this game, that it's not the typical kind of break down you see too much of on TV shows and movies. It just seems far too convenient for Team Ninja to attach "fragile" to a female protagonist. We get it--all women have emotions--but Samus Aran is a very rare case of woman, and I highly doubt you could ever describe her as "fragile."

Both games are awesome. Period. I wish I had a parasite twin growing out of me so I could play them both at the same time.

Radwart, Super > Prime, but Prime is a excellent game. Where did I say which Metroid game I preferred?

Samus is human?

I feel like metroid prime might as well have been a new IP. The gameplay is so ridiculously different that it's silly to even compare the games. Saying Super Metroid > Prime is ridiculous because they are completely different types of games. The only thing they really have in common are the characters and settings.

Personally, Super Metroid is one of my favorite games ever. But Metroid Prime barely made a blip on my radar. The games were good, but they never pulled me in the way Super did and I can't play them without wishing they were more like the original games. The only Prime game I really enjoyed was Hunters, not as a Metroid game, but because it was a straight up FPS and one of if not the best FPS for the DS (Or any mobile platform imo) Even so, I enjoyed Zero Mission and Fusion far more than I did any of the prime series.

Nude scene confirmed?

Why do I feel that Samus' Human Side is going to be remarkably immature and like some kind of japanese schoolgirl... and yet also involve sonme kind of skimpy outfit?

If Samus is is bounty hunter, when does she get paid?

I don't mind Samus showing a "human side" in Other M. As long as the core of the Metroid gameplay is there, I'll be fine with a story being attached to the game. Look at Metroid Fusion. I thought that was a great throwback to the original Metroid gameplay, though it was a slightly too linear in my opinion. I hope Other M is like a Metroid Prime 1/Metroid Fusion hybrid with its seemingly 2D Metroid-first person sequence mix with a hint of story in there. That would be an awesome game to me.

So it seems opinions don't really matter too much anymore.

Super Metroid. Metroid Prime. Both are great games. People have their favorites. Some like Super better. Some like Prime better. I'm in the latter camp myself, but I'm not one to say that those who like Super better are idiots. People have different tastes. Jesus Christ. You all need to calm down.

Yeah, it's all opinion.

But seriously, I think CaramelZappa is just incorrect in his analysis that they are different games altogether. They work of the same gameplay concept and feature the same type of isolated atmosphere. Just one is 3-D and one is 2-D.

But I'm in the group that likes Prime better. It is probably because it was my first experience. However, while I went to Super Metroid later, it was still an amazing experience.

If Other M draws from the two-volume manga/comic* as heavily and event-ly unaltered-ly as I hope, then Samus has a friggin' psychotic breakdown at a point before the Zero Mission. And that doesn't even cover whatever happened to Malkovich, though she might've been less mentally crackable by then.

*http://www.onemanga.com/Metroid/

Looks like i'll have to get Super Metroid on vc soon, thanks guys.

Think about what you actually do for the gameplay in each game. When in Super Metroid did you ever scan anything? Lock on to targets? Actually put any real effort into aiming? Yes, the format of move from isolated room to room, explore and backtrack, get missiles to open doors, these are all the same. But what you're actually doing, the actual gameplay mechanics that you spend every minute of the game with are completely different.

I think of it a lot like Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts. The elements are there, the characters are there, the general format is there. But at its heart it's a driving game, unlike the platformer the series started off as. Metroid is the same way. It started off one way, and the prime series took the basic elements and put them in a completely different type of game. A good game, mind you, but one that isn't even in the same genre as the originals.

If that's what a '4chan sounding phrase' sounds like these days, I can pull up at least five of 'em from your other account's history, bro.

@Khan:
I'm in favor of Samus becoming a "quiet protagonist", as opposed to an altogether silent one - see Master Chief, a man who doesn't talk much, but when he does talk, you listen. The silent protagonist can be an effective narrative device, but it depends entirely on the type of game and the type of story being told. I thought Gordon Freeman's silence ruined the story of Half-Life 2; not by necessity, but because the story was poorly structured around it. I can't pretend I'm the character if other characters are making reference to things that I - as opposed to my character - never did. It's also hard to feel an emotional attachment to anything in the game when you don't feel like you're controlling a human being. Major props to Retro for including little touches in Prime that made you feel like you were in control of a human character - Samus's grunts of pain, the reflection of her face in the visor, the fact that she fiddles with her weapon when you don't touch the controller long enough. Had Gordon Freeman even had those saving graces, I may have liked him a lot more.
By contrast, I think there are some games where a silent protagonist is effective. I wouldn't want Link spouting out one-liners or angsting about saving Hyrule - Link is me as a child. Mario would lose much of his charm if he spoke more than the occasional soundbite - see Sonic the Hedgehog for a cautionary example. And in RPGs and games where you can make meaningful decisions for your character, a silent protagonist is a good fit - a lot of classics like Chrono Trigger, Pokemon and Dragon Quest wouldn't be the same without silent protagonists, and Chrono Cross featured one of the most inspired uses of the archetype I've ever seen. I haven't played a lot of Western RPGs, but I gather the dynamic is much the same - though for a game aiming for a more cinematic feel, a silent protagonist might indeed feel out-of-place.
Again, it all depends on the type of game you're making and the type of story you're telling.

A first-party Nintendo game with narrative? Haven't seen that in a while.