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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:46PM aughscreennames said

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My interest in this game is pretty much at zero, the reviews could say its an amazing game and I still wouldnt really care. I liked Bioshock 1, it was a good game, but it was a complete game. I dont feel like going through Rapture anymore, what else is there to do anyways? Rapture is not that varied of a place and the story of Rapture isnt epic enough to be told with multiple games. I completely agree that Bioshock didnt need a sequel. It might be a good game but I imagine its a MUCH better game for people who never played the first one.

Im interested in how it will sell though, will it blow Bioshock 1's sales out of the water like most sequels to good games do? Or will it not do that much better because a lot of people felt satisfied enough with the first game?
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:36AM Nofriendo said

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Would you kindly again....
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:54AM TRTX said

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You know, playing the game a second time and knowing about "Would you kindly..." makes it interesting to see how the game ensures that you do what it is you're kindly being asked to do.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:12AM Nofriendo said

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I almost feel like I owe it to Bioshock to buy the second one being that the first one was one of my fav's of the decade.

But its a good thing I want to play it too... despite varying reviews.

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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 6:02PM (Unverified) said

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now my comments are backwards... :(
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:39AM PR0F3TA said

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i really wish i would go back to rapture but i have this student loan to pay off, the rent was due 3 days ago and i already put down my last 40 on Battlefield.


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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:34PM Temidien said

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Cool story, bro. My sympathies.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:45PM BrianH said

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i wasn't expecting this to be as amazing as the first one.

but i was able to get it for 35$ due to the 4 pack on steam, so either way, good buy and a must.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:50PM aughscreennames said

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If a comment is going to be deleted it would be nice to get an error message that you cant reply to it anymore instead adding the reply to some random person...
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:55PM aughscreennames said

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wtf, now my comments or going backwards (comment 12:50 is above 12:45). Joystiq you shouldnt delete parent comments with lots of replies, it screws everything up.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 3:48PM AnderFREAK said

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I don't particularly understand why people are down voting you, sounds like you got it fairly rough sir...
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 6:00PM (Unverified) said

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lol, i agree with you man, this sequel wasnt needed but i still find myself wanting to play it. They place couldnt have changed all that much, unless you're playing at the time the place went to shit, i think that would be fun. It's like how they recycled the city in Skate 1 to make the city in Skate 2, it's the same thing with a few differences.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 6:49PM robotoid said

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So in your case, Ken Kutaragi's whole "get a second job" thing was actually a good advice...
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Posted: Feb 10th 2010 10:45PM KeenCommander said

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The funny thing to me is, I think Rapture begs for a sequel...or really, a prequel. I'd love to have an RPG following from Rapture's conception to the fall - it would give so much more fleshing out to the backstory, and let you see the city in its prime. Plus no need for the repetitive combat. Just exploring will do fine.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:44AM (Unverified) said

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What's the average time a gamer could expect to beat Bioshock 2 in? The first one was a rather lengthy (though extremely enjoyable) game, especially for an FPS.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:19AM whylekat said

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Yeah I want that question answered as well. The story doesn't sound good enough if it only really picks up in the last few hrs. That won't keep me entertained.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2010 12:00PM (Unverified) said

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It took me seven hours to beat it. I killed all of the Big Daddies, too. Yay me.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:45AM Maulok said

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Lost me at "drill fuel". Thanks for the review, I was hoping for something shocking that made it a must buy, but alas, it sounds like exactly what we all expected. Sad panda is me.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:23AM psyXcho said

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looks like you were just looking for a reason to hate it. I LOVED Rapture and want to see more of it. The "same old shit" argument in games nowadays is getting old. Why does everyone always want the mold broken even in sequels? Sometimes the old formula is just plain fun!

BTW Maulok, everything after the first sentence was not directed at you. Just ranting
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:33AM (Unverified) said

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rogXue makes a good point. But I must say it's a fine line.

I played about 30% through the first Bioshock and couldn't finish it, just did nothing for me. For me, it was a FPS with multiple ways to kill enemies and the story was, not engaging.

If the 2nd is like the first, then I'll definitely be passing.

On the other hand, if you really liked the original game, then this should be right up your alley. The window between the two is small enough to still keep fans of the original playing.

Sometimes when sequels are "innovative", it doesn't fair very well for the game. Take Gears of War 2 for example...
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 6:26PM (Unverified) said

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rogXue, the "same old shit" argument is hardly uncalled for in gaming. That the argument itself is getting old must say something about how long the industry has been enduring the 'safe bet' mentality from developers and (especially) publishers who are eager to ride on past successes rather than risk innovation.

Bringing it back to Bioshock, I did really enjoy the first one... for a while. Everything was really well done and it had a great atmosphere, but I felt it maintained the same atmosphere for way too long. I was always waiting for some kind of major contrast in environment to lift you from the gloom, at least for a few minutes, but it never came. By the end of the game, I was glad it was over. More of the same is exactly the opposite of what I'd look for in a Bioshock sequel, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way.

The devs deserve all the success they have for the quality of work and imagination that went into the series, but surely the first was so well received because of how different it was from other games. Without a major injection of freshness I can't see how Bioshock 2 will create that feeling (or perk that interest) for gamers again, and I seriously doubt it will see the same scale of success. C'mon fellers, you should know this by now. The value is in novelty. Repetition is worthless.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2010 2:26AM pasta SteamXBL pastapappie said

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Would you say that you were hoping for something... *puts on sunglasses* Bioshocking?

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Posted: Feb 9th 2010 11:47PM andsoitgoes said

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See, this is where Gamestop/EB games makes me happy.

Bioshock 2 here has a Gaming Guarantee. If you PO the game, even the day before, you can return it for full credit within a week.

I think it's genius, and if I love it, I simply keep it. Epic win.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 6:38PM (Unverified) said

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@Maulok

You can still use the drill without the fuel. Press O (For 360, B) to do a Melee attack. If you have a certain gene tonic, you have a 1/50 chance of freezing the opponent upon melee. There are also other gene tonics you can gather for your drill, one's that up the damage, conserve gas, and so on.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:48AM Ahti said

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Gorgeous CG intro. The little sister was ay-door-ahh-blay.

Loved the first game. The setting and story drew me in. Especially since I have a fear and fascination of being deep under water. Aquariums where you are surrounded by water really freak me out.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:50AM (Unverified) said

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hmmm. I might have to pass. :(

Any idea how long the game is on average?
I'd be willing to play through it for the story if it's under 12 hours. But anything more than that i'd probably get bored.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:52AM TRTX said

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"Why are the new Big Daddies so clearly worse? It must be a budgetary thing."

That actually sounds like the entire premise of the second game. They created this super strong Big Daddy that can use Plasmids and has free will...but at the same time they realized that creating something like that could lead to a situation where it could turn against them.

Heck, the fact you play as a Big Daddy that can choose to kill Little Sisters already shows you what was wrong with the Prototype.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:58AM Acosta02 said

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Haha, never thought of that! Good point!
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:56AM LuTon James said

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I know everyone loves it but I found the first one so crushing. I mean it made me think do I suck at gaming this much, I'm always ok at most games, shit I even like what I've played of demon's souls, even though I died a lot in that too. Really should give this another go but there is too much other stuff around first for me. Sigh, here come the downvotes, I probably deserve them.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:16AM awperk said

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Did you realize that you can save pretty much whenever you wanted? I'm no super-gamer but i beat the first bioshock on normal and then the hardest difficulty with vita chambers turned off. It's really not a difficult game, you just have to be patient and smart about saving your game before a big battle.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:23AM copa said

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"Sigh, here come the downvotes, I probably deserve them."

Oh man, Jesus is getting started on the whole martyr act again.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:57AM Mehndog said

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I'm picking this title up tomorrow over my lunch break. The possibility of returning to Rapture in a game that doesn't ruin game play and story is enough for me to support 2K Marin (and everyone else involved.)

Rapture is such a beautifully realized world, I don't care if it feels like the "same Rapture" or not. I get to explore it further and that exciting to me.

Everyone is saying that the last portion of the game is mind-blowing, can't wait till I get there!
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 1:59PM (Unverified) said

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I totally agree. However, I think a Bioshock 3 would be pushing the awesomeness of the series too far. I enjoyed the original. There is something mysterious, perhaps even magnetizing about Rapture, that keeps people like us coming back for more. But two games is enough. And, oh yeah, I will purchase Bioshock 2 down the line. Maybe sooner.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:57AM Mayor West said

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I think this was a good review. Sound like it's a great game, but very similar to the first.

I would also like to know the length of the single player game. I loved that the first one was brave enough to focus on the story. I'm a a little nervous about the inclusion of multiplayer this time around.

Is the sequel at least as long as the first one was?
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 9:59AM itskrislol said

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I'm not usually one who will/won't buy a game based on reviews, but I think this review convinced me not to buy it.

Makes me kind of sad actually, maybe I'll just rent it instead
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:02AM (Unverified) said

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Not sure of the exact count, but I'd estimate my playtime at about 15 hours.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:14AM Mayor West said

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Thanks! That sounds pretty good to me.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:38AM (Unverified) said

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Thanks for this info - I've been scanning reviews to get an approximate playtime. I had some fear that they pulled a Halo 3 on it and made it a 6 hours single player game with a hope people would play multiplayer. I am getting Bioshock 2 for the single player game. Period.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:32PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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I know this is a single player review but can we get a small hint about how the multiplayer feels? Thats the breaking point for me on this game. I'm already slighted against it because I feel it wasn't necessary but if the multiplayer is revolutionary or something I might change my mind.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:46PM (Unverified) said

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No joke, I really haven't spent enough time with it to form any sort of opinion.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 1:20PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Gotcha. Thanks for the reply on it. Well maybe you can play it a bit today if you aren't super busy and whip up one of those snap judgement posts.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:03AM (Unverified) said

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Did you even read the review?
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 12:47PM (Unverified) said

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Did you fail at replying?
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 5:12PM aughscreennames said

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he replied to a comment that was deleted, all the replies are still here but theyve been randomly dispersed into nonsense territory
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Posted: Feb 10th 2010 10:06PM (Unverified) said

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So, infact, Cap Morgan (formerly tenor77) is the one who failed at replying. How deliciously ironic.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:04AM Acosta02 said

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Wow, a lot of people who want to know how long it is! Is that even an issue? I guess I an understand wanting to get more playtime for the price, but I've always taken a more "quality over quantity" stance!


Of course, both is always good!
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 1:45PM (Unverified) said

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@ Acosta02:
"Quality vs. quantity" is a mantra every gamer should embrace. However the Christmas Holiday season, which floods us with excellent games, hasn't ended with Christmas. January was filled with Grade A games, February is set to, as well. I love my video games, but my games-to-play stack is getting increasingly bigger and bigger. Knowing that I can bang out Bioshock 2 in a week will help me schedule what other games I can follow it up with in my schedule.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:07AM That Burning Sensation said

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You know what your illiterate ass needs? A review score.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:08AM (Unverified) said

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No score? No length? How long did the single-player campaign last? The review is just.... vague with a 'good game but.... not what I'd hoped' tone, but what does that mean? Buy? No-buy?
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Posted: Feb 8th 2010 10:17AM StrikeFear13 said

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They never give a definitive score. Also, he mentioned his playtime in the comments afterward- 15 hours or so.
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