We're devoted fans of the Ars Technica mole, who has nailed big stories like the PS3 Slim and the Resident Evil 5 bundle. As a result, we feel pretty comfortable getting excited about two new Xbox 360 bundles Ars highlights today. The first, a Splinter Cell: Conviction-themed bundle, will reportedly include a not-in-any-way-branded system packing a 250GB hard drive, two black controllers and the game, all for $400. The other bundle will, according to Ars, have all the same specs except with Final Fantasy XIII and white controllers.
Considering the the mole's track record, we wouldn't be surprised to see an official announcement any day now.
Reader Comments (59)
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:48AM Uphillbothways said
I'd agree if I already had all the consoles, but I need a PS3. So I'm hoping for a PS3 bundle with Heavy Rain or GW3 or maybe MAG.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:54AM Spike Spiegel Humble Bounty Hun said
I'd understand if you saved some value from purchasing these bundles. But an Elite + Game + Controller is running the same price. You could probably obtain it all cheaper through deals too.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:00AM Spike Spiegel Humble Bounty Hun said
But in turn, I realize my mistake of the HDD difference. Consider myself corrected.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:34AM MinimumWageNinja said
Honestly, if I saw someone buying a FFXIII Xbox 360 console I'd choke. One thing if you already have one, but it feels wrong not packaged with PS3.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:49AM Ballistic H said
And people used to complain that a $400 console was expensive (PS3). This doesn't even include integrated WiFi, Blu-ray, Play&Charge. Instead you have a 2nd controller and an extra 130GB.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:39AM Alan Smithee said
Sony better do a FFXIII PS3 here in the States.
These 'bundles' feel stupid without a custom console, however.
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These 'bundles' feel stupid without a custom console, however.
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:43AM Alan Smithee said
And that's a good point made by that Slowtaku article: Why are they making a twin controller bundle for a SINGLE PLAYER game?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:52AM Alan Smithee said
If you were picking that particular bundle, it would seem that way.
Why not leave out the extra controller and throw in an HDMI cable, or a Play and Charge kit, or even the Wireless Adapter?
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Why not leave out the extra controller and throw in an HDMI cable, or a Play and Charge kit, or even the Wireless Adapter?
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:03AM (Unverified) said
You would rather have a $2 HDMI cable included instead of a $40 controller?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:05AM Alan Smithee said
Since when are Component cables 2 bucks?
If I want to get an HDMI cable, I have to order it, or pay an outrageous premium on a retail one. I can get a controller anywhere.
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If I want to get an HDMI cable, I have to order it, or pay an outrageous premium on a retail one. I can get a controller anywhere.
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:08AM Ballistic H said
I paid $5 for my HDMI cable and have no video/audio problem at all.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:11AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
uhhh I've got $4 cables from MonoPrice on numerous items....I have no issues with the quality at all, when I worked @Sears as an Electronics salesmen I even hooked up $100 monster cables & then some $30 RCA ones....on identical TVs....NO DIFFERENCE!!
Where the difference comes is when you bend the cables over and over cause the main components to bend and distort the signal. if you don't bend your cheap cables you will be fine
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Where the difference comes is when you bend the cables over and over cause the main components to bend and distort the signal. if you don't bend your cheap cables you will be fine
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:11AM Alan Smithee said
He's typically right. The average $2 cable is unshielded, or isn't HDMI 1.3 (not that the 360 supports that), or just isn't going to be reliable.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:13AM Spike Spiegel Humble Bounty Hun said
My plasma was far from happy with cheap cables. Not saying you need to go spend a fortune on monster cables. But cheap end HDMI cables are terrible on quality displays.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:14AM Vidikron said
"a $2 HDMI cable is junk."
No. Monoprice sells very cheap cables that work great and have very good build quality. HDMI is a digital signal and isn't subject to the same depredation from interference as an analog signal. For the vast majority of people a $2 cable will work identically to a $100 cable. You only have to worry about the quality of the cable for long runs and even then just spending more isn't any sort of guarantee.
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No. Monoprice sells very cheap cables that work great and have very good build quality. HDMI is a digital signal and isn't subject to the same depredation from interference as an analog signal. For the vast majority of people a $2 cable will work identically to a $100 cable. You only have to worry about the quality of the cable for long runs and even then just spending more isn't any sort of guarantee.
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:15AM Spike Spiegel Humble Bounty Hun said
I base my judgement from experience. As I said, you do not need expensive cables. But I could see a fine difference from a $5 cable I purchased verses my $30 cable.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:21AM Spike Spiegel Humble Bounty Hun said
Placebo, right..
I am sorry. I will not say the average person MUST buy more pricey cables. In my experience, with my TV and hardware set ups, the difference was well worth the money spent.
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I am sorry. I will not say the average person MUST buy more pricey cables. In my experience, with my TV and hardware set ups, the difference was well worth the money spent.
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:28AM Alan Smithee said
I do notice a small difference between the 1 cent cable I use for my 360 over the $40 dollar Phillips cable for my PS3. Audio quality too.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:30AM Spike Spiegel Humble Bounty Hun said
Couldn't agree more. The audio difference alone is worth the money.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:21PM Vidikron said
You guys are free to buy what you want, but you're wrong about the quality. Digital works or it doesn't, the data gets there or it doesn't. It doesn't degrade the same way as analog. So if buy a $100 HDMI cable for a 6ft run you're not getting better video or audio than someone with a $5 Monoprice cable. This is fact, not opinion.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 3:53PM (Unverified) said
People like Bradwart is the reason Monster Cables is still in business.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:39AM (Unverified) said
Dude's about to get his head slammed through the sink.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 2:25PM (Unverified) said
If the Splinter Cell bundle really isn't going to be branded, I'll definitely be buying it
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:40AM (Unverified) said
http://kotaku.com/5468216/final-fantasy-xiii-gets-an-xbox-360-bundle-in-north-americarday
You mean this? Which was already announced by Square-Enix yesterday? Wow what a mole!!!
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You mean this? Which was already announced by Square-Enix yesterday? Wow what a mole!!!
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:41AM Alan Smithee said
Neither Microsoft nor Square Enix have made any official announcements about this bundle, which recently appeared on a retailer training site.
Umm...did you read your own article?
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Umm...did you read your own article?
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:45AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
I dont see either of these games as "Console sellers" so I find that kind of strange....with MW2 I could understand that bundle tho....
They might as well just go ahead and make the 250GB model an actual regular item...and sell it for $349....$399 SKUs are sooooooooooo last summer
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They might as well just go ahead and make the 250GB model an actual regular item...and sell it for $349....$399 SKUs are sooooooooooo last summer
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:48AM Alan Smithee said
Hey, 399 gives you 'flexibility'.
Or something like that...
If they expected me to pay 399, it better have HD cables like the last Xbox I paid 399 for. Since it doesn't, it's inferior.
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Or something like that...
If they expected me to pay 399, it better have HD cables like the last Xbox I paid 399 for. Since it doesn't, it's inferior.
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:52AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
I still dont understand why they pulled those cables out. I always felt like the more expensive unit should have HD cables(for both consoles)...hell they could at LEAST give you a "Play & Charge" kit....
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:24AM eat it said
I always thought they should pack absolutely no cables.
to me it seems so wasteful, if they pack hdmi the component and composite people will not use them
if the pack component or or composite, the hdmi people will not use them. either way it's a lot of cables that are probably just getting thrown out.
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to me it seems so wasteful, if they pack hdmi the component and composite people will not use them
if the pack component or or composite, the hdmi people will not use them. either way it's a lot of cables that are probably just getting thrown out.
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:29AM Alan Smithee said
That'd work, Space, if Microsoft wouldn't charge 50 for the cables. Or if they had direct Component/Composite out jacks, but that'd be kinda tacky, don't you think?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:41AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said
well here's my thing....sure I can buy any cable I want later....but with the Elite coming with HDMI & component it really helped me out...because my TV only had 2 HDMI ports on it and my PS3 & Home Theater system took up both of those....so at the very LEAST they should include component as those cost more since they are proprietary....
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:46AM WickedCobra03 said
Oh, but hey, our savior Lar-bear said that this was going to be a limited of time offer through the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 bundle and they were not going to sell it stand-alone or with any other bundles... oh, so what happened here other than out right lying?!?
I am just so confused as an avid consumer of your reasonably price hard-drives and other memory accessories such as your 64MB Memory Unit.
Please clear all this confusion so I can invest in your great products. I almost feel like I am stealing them from Microsoft at times. Keep up the great work guys!
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I am just so confused as an avid consumer of your reasonably price hard-drives and other memory accessories such as your 64MB Memory Unit.
Please clear all this confusion so I can invest in your great products. I almost feel like I am stealing them from Microsoft at times. Keep up the great work guys!
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:46AM Jomolungma said
Just realised - huge difference between Ars mole and Arse mole....
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:53AM jph89 said
Now I would have bought the FF ps3 edition, the one Japan got, if it hit the US. I just cant picture myself buying a whole new system, that looks just like the one I have now, that doest even come with anything FF like besides the game. No art book, no figures, just the game. I'll stick with the $60 game.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 10:57AM UnverifiedUser said
I thought the 360 version already was a bundle... what with its 3 discs. Zing!
Just kidding, but seriously... I'm with jph89. I don't own a 360, but looking at this bundle, it seems pretty useless due to the fact that its not necessarily any type of special edition system, like the PS3 in Japan - something I'd jump on even though I already own a PS3.
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Just kidding, but seriously... I'm with jph89. I don't own a 360, but looking at this bundle, it seems pretty useless due to the fact that its not necessarily any type of special edition system, like the PS3 in Japan - something I'd jump on even though I already own a PS3.
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:31AM TrueJim Mk VI said
Any word on if the 120Gb can be transferred to a 250Gb?? I'll buy it if I can transfer...
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:32AM Alan Smithee said
No reason why it couldn't. You can always go from a smaller to a larger, just not the reverse.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:34AM Sordid State of Eclairs said
This isn't going to happen.. I've come to terms with that fact, but I'll say it anyway:
North American Collector's Edition, SE, or get the f*ck out of my life. From a NA fan whose loyalty has spread over 20 years, thanks in advance.
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North American Collector's Edition, SE, or get the f*ck out of my life. From a NA fan whose loyalty has spread over 20 years, thanks in advance.
Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:45AM Alan Smithee said
There's been rumors of a LE, and since FFXII had one...
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 11:58AM Sordid State of Eclairs said
I've been checking day in and day out for confirmation of a CE/LE and haven't seen any indication that Square-Enix intends to release one here so, I hope that you are right and I am wrong, my friend.
I'm completely understanding of it being released for both ps3 and 360, should a collector's edition get released. Also, a NA bundle for 360 doesn't sound "equal" to me. What does ps3 get?
One concern might be knowing that the CE for FFXII didn't sell very quickly (or well?) I know that a short while after it was released they were selling CE's of FFXII at discounted prices where I am just to get rid of the things, there were so many.
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I'm completely understanding of it being released for both ps3 and 360, should a collector's edition get released. Also, a NA bundle for 360 doesn't sound "equal" to me. What does ps3 get?
One concern might be knowing that the CE for FFXII didn't sell very quickly (or well?) I know that a short while after it was released they were selling CE's of FFXII at discounted prices where I am just to get rid of the things, there were so many.
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