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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:34PM (Unverified) said

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Microsoft's argument on them only buying a few games is logical, but I would have still done it. Why can't the Army go to Wal*Mart?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:40PM styleznma said

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or BestBuy, since wal-mart doesn't even give out 0% interest cc's.... mmmmm i luv my best buy card...
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:43PM Acosta02 said

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I guess they could, but they would have to got to a huge number of Wal-Marts and then ship them all out individually.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:59PM postpwn said

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People, people, get a hold of yourselves: Walmart stopped using the star and the hyphen a few years ago!
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:30PM Acosta02 said

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Sorry, Matt, I'm out of control here :(
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 2:09PM Tiptup300 said

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I'm confused what these games are supposed to teach people. I mean. They don't give you direct experience in how to use weapons. The AI isn't perfect, so it just teaches you strategies to trick the AI. What benefits are there?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 2:17PM (Unverified) said

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Actually they still use both (star & hyphen) it in their official documentation and it is still officially part of the name.

http://walmartstores.com/sites/AnnualReport/2009/
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 6:22PM Kaminaaa said

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Bratwurst or whatever, just the other day you were linking everyone to a Wikipedia article about the Nintendo Seal of Quality
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:36PM bigotis said

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Come on Microsoft, totally unpatriotic! Take the losses for our country!
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:36PM Giggman said

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Each one of Microsofts excuses were stupid...
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:53PM Alan Smithee said

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Hey, GiggMan is right. For a company that sure likes to brag about how much software they sell, and how high their attach rate is, they couldn't have done this?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:31PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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Did you even bother reading the article?

However, there are issues with licensing, certification, costs, video capture and so on, and the platform holders haven't been able to clear them up. According to the article, after a month of enquiries from the Army, "Neither Microsoft, Nintendo nor Sony could deliver a coherent answer. The responses were not unfriendly or unhelpful so much as uncomprehending."

Also, this deal was going on in 2006. The 360 launched in the US in 2005 with an already apparent hardware storage. Do you think it would be wise for MS to shorthand everyday consumers, arguably their most important critics?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:34PM Giggman said

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Brad you got to realize that some people will defend Microsoft until the day that they die. What other company would turn down their own Military for something as stupid as profits....

I'll tell you what company, a company that has it's consumers trained that it is expectable to buy numerous amounts of faulty hardware. .
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:38PM Alan Smithee said

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Microsoft is set up to bomb hard next generation anyway. They're just like Sega was in 1993-1994-at the peak of arrogance. Or, for a more recent example, Sony in 2005-2006.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:51PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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I hate to interrupt this little stroke-fest you guys got going on here, but can the both of you shut up? Seriously, head on over to Eurogamer (look I'll even link it for you, http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/us-army-tried-to-buy-360-units-told-no) and read the damn article. Chances are, you read the snippets Joystiq chose to use and thought that was the entire article and you dimwits went into hyperactive-dimwit mode with your comments.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:53PM (Unverified) said

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@GiggMan

'Brad you got to realize that some people will defend Microsoft until the day that they die. What other company would turn down their own Military for something as stupid as profits.... "

wow.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:56PM Giggman said

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All I said were that the excuses MS used were stupid.

So what you are saying is that the excuses that they gave (PR reason, association with war, etc.) were good excuses?

That fine if you think they are, and thanks for the link to the article... I do feel stupid now talking about something that happened in 06. So carry on everyone.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 2:17PM eat it said

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before you start going off about how MS should help their military maybe you should read up on how our military spends its money

http://www.ethicsinbusiness.net/case-studies/halliburton-kbr/

I want to see if still think our military should be spending money on xboxes after you read that
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 2:19PM Alan Smithee said

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Space...that article uses Wikipedia as a source.

Pardon me while I die laughing.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 2:36PM (Unverified) said

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There is no point in explaining business with Brad, he doesn't comprehend it. He still bases things like the commercial success of a game off critical reception instead of gross revenue.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 2:37PM (Unverified) said

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"commercial success" should just be "success" I don't know why I threw that word in there. :V
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:37PM shadowskill11 said

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So they do an XBLA Major Nelson in Camp Victory Iraq series last 4th of July but they deny the Army buying a bulk order of 360's? Weird....
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:37PM Xoxaan said

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I can't imagine the US Army buying a Japanese gaming platform en masse. That would probably also be a mistake for the mainstream media esp now with public sensitivity over jobs and unemployment.

Can't say I blame Microsoft either though. We gamers and video games are constantly under assault by family groups, religious organizations and fitness groups for causing all the problems amongst our youth. Couldn't possibly be bad parenting, no, never.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:38PM Alan Smithee said

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The Air Force did it. And it's not like the 360 is built in the US anyway.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:00PM Mike Sylvester said

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For about $500, they can buy parts for a computer that's faster than the x360, and similar in size. They can employ Americans to build maintain them, and they can still use XNA without having to pay the $99 annual fee that would be associated with an X360 license for it.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:09PM Alan Smithee said

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Said parts still won't be made in the US...
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 3:20PM BigD145 said

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If Microsoft was worried about backlash, Games for Windows Live would cease to exist as would all support for Windows as a gaming platform. I certainly don't see any errors when installing the Army's free video game on my Windows box.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:37PM Alan Smithee said

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It wouldn't be too unreasonable to see them picking up a planeload of PS3's.

Or...maybe THAT'S where all the PS2's went?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:03PM (Unverified) said

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I don't get that whole "Bradworst" thing. At least come up with something clever
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:06PM Kid Icarus said

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"I don't get that whole "Bradworst" thing. At least come up with something clever"

Never heard of 'bratworst' huh?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:07PM Alan Smithee said

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Traceur, these are people who spend their time trolling one user on a blog. That's probably the most creative thing they've ever created.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:11PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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Is "FartWad" more clever?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:52PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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Your name was SpyderTako at one point, wasn't it?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:54PM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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@ Tigre:

You are correct.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 3:17PM Mr Khan said

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Tako is Japanese for Octopus. That's probably why.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 4:22PM mahouneko said

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@Tea Bag and Captain Planet:
Um, the Bradwart that made this thread only has ~550 posts. Furthermore, I was under the impression that Bradwart normally set his profile to public.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 5:03PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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@ mahouneko

Yeah we know. Welcome to 2 months ago.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:41PM Acosta02 said

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Uh... is this sarcasm? Would you mind elaborating?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:42PM (Unverified) said

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Computers of equal caliber $1000?? Try $500 dollars, if that.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:45PM Alan Smithee said

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The military typically pays more. They're not buying crappy pre-built stuff from HP or Acer.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 2:20PM blueskyv201 said

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What do you think they're buying? Custom-built Alienware gaming rigs?
Pre-built discount computers is exactly what they buy just as any other large organization in the world.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 2:34PM (Unverified) said

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As a former submariner, I can tell you that they are buying crappy, pre-built computers. They used to use custom hardware, and their boomer subs still have them as switching out hardware there can be far more challenging due to the nature of their mission, but instead of grabbing custom hardware when something breaks, now they can just pop in a new PCI card.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:42PM (Unverified) said

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I'd be more inclined to say that the systems would be used for recreation as much as training. With family in the military, I know for a fact that the military often asks for donations of old games, movies, and books to provide entertainment for soldiers, because there is a lot of down time for soldiers, so gaming is often a popular choice.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:52PM TheDarkWayne said

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that's probably the biggest part of it. I can't imagine them needing 2000 360s for some Macguyvered super computer simulation crap, it's probably just for fun. I know I send like a 100 dollars worth of comic books every month to the Army, I'm sure they'd take an xbox too
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 1:28PM Snarf said

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@Dark Wayne- Props to you for sending your comics to the Army, most people are too 'me' centered to even think about doing something like that. You sir, are a good egg....*snarf*
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 2:22PM eat it said

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but our soldiers need to be proficient in using akimbo shotguns. that is what the army does right?
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 2:26PM RandomZero said

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Well...he IS Batman.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:44PM Alan Smithee said

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Now they'll have the appearance of being unpatriotic, too worried about the bottom line over the troops.
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Posted: Feb 11th 2010 12:45PM jumpshot said

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Imagine having to replace 1000's of consoles that RROD'd? Mine was replaced 4 times! Still my most used console though.

New training classes: Teabagging, Rocket Jumping and Spawn 'Nading.
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