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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 7:35PM SitriStahl said

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that had great controllers
a moment of silence please...
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 2:05AM Tiptup300 said

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I had 3 wireless les pauls break on me.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 7:55AM SitriStahl said

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i've had 2 les pauls, and on one of them the whammy bar broke
i don't know about the other consoles, but the wii had the best GH3 controller, virtually no issues
my GH2 explorer is working fine, and is a lot better than the $10 i spent on it
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 7:38PM rahmenxnoodles69 said

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This is unfortunate news.

But perhaps we can all take solace in the fact that there will be less GH this year.

I think everyone would prefer one maybe two new GH's this year instead of 5..
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 8:12PM Hafk said

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Nope, there will only be one Guitar Hero and one DJ Hero. Guitar Hero 6 has been confirmed to be Neversoft's last Guitar Hero, and I am pretty sure this will be the last chance for DJ Hero.

It's a shame to see most of Neversoft get the axe just so Bobby Kotick and keep his million dollar bonuses.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 7:42PM JAK33 said

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so basically they popularized the music gaming genre, then got their ass kicked out the door? WTF activision?
also i loved dave mirra on ps2
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 7:45PM ailurus74 said

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So they essentially bought their creation, whored it out and milked it as much as they possibly could, then fired 'em.

Yep.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 7:54PM Whoppinberg said

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That sounds about right.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 8:48PM JRMG said

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That's what happens when you make a deal with the devil...
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 8:54PM sonicspike41 said

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Well to argue against them selling it, there is such a thing as a hostile takeover.

I'm not sure if that was the case for them or not though.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 8:59PM spin cycle said

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Yep, congratulations Activision. You're the new Symantec. Buy a worthwhile product, screw it up and then throw it away.

It's really sad to see RedOctane go this way. These guys were 50% responsible for the genius that was Guitar Hero and now they're nothing but a footnote.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 7:50PM Spike Spiegel Humble Bounty Hun said

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If they are fired, why not Tony Hawk?
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 8:07PM sonicspike41 said

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Robomodo?

Oh no, they haven't nearly milked the new Ride board for all it's worth yet. Give them time, give them time.

On an unrelated note though, I recently rewatched the entire Cowboy Bebop series and the movie. I still tear up every time I watch the last episode... such a good show.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 8:10PM Spike Spiegel Humble Bounty Hun said

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I entirely agree. The end was so sad. One of the best and unique animes out there.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2010 1:33AM killdash9 said

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Never seen a bluer sky.

Oh, and Happy [Faye] Valentine Day!
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 7:50PM Granger said

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Activision buying Red Octane was a pretty huge deal which opened up a lot of opportunities. Them buying the IP owner and peripheral maker as opposed to the content creators and software developers could possibly be both the best and worst thing that happened to music games.

Kind of sucks to see them close, interesting to see the way this is turning out and where it goes from here.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 7:59PM KeegdnaB said

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Mercy Killing

God forgave RO's sin of selling their souls to Activision but they could no longer be allowed to live among mortals
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 8:06PM Hafk said

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Way to make light of people losing their jobs.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 8:05PM Jason B said

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I remember using them for game rentals when they had all of those PS1 games. After they sold them all, I went to Gamefly because they were cheaper.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 8:08PM Hafk said

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With Viacom laying off Harmonix teams, and Activision laying off most of Neversoft and all of Red Octane, this does not look good for rhythm games.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 8:08PM JohnDM said

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Going to redoctane.com just redirects you to guitarherostore.com now with all of Red Octane scrubbed out with the exception of a picture of the DDR mats with the logo in the middle.

Activision executives finally see the writing on the wall that they played a massive part in super-saturating the market*, but at the expense of laying off large groups of people while still bragging about profits. (*EA is also guilty of this, my Walmart is stuffed with $10 RB drum kits.)

As for Tony Hawk, they likely sunk too much money into the hardware to just let it be and rather try again. Though the likelihood of it failing again and Robomodo getting axed is sadly a likely possibility.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 8:32PM Mr Bungo said

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Red Octane took a big, big chance bringing rhythm games to the US market, which was considered nuts at the time. Guitar Hero debuted in Kentia Hall, the back alley of E3 in the day, where all the small companies with weird crap were gathered. That's all Red Octane could afford. But thanks to teaming up with the talented folks at Harmonix, their oddball title was a sleeper hit, and the music craze in the US started rolling. Then Activision saw the money to be made, and the rest is history. It's sad to see Red Octane shut down by the giant that swallowed them, but that's par for the course in this day and age.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 9:03PM spin cycle said

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Even when Guitar Hero 2 was being shown at E3, it was on the main floor, but there were only two screens showing it. GH1 hadn't even peaked yet but the crowd were enormous to get to play a not nearly finished copy of the game.

It's one of those rare things at E3, a harbinger of a huge success. One of the other times I saw this was for a rhythm game also, when about a decade before when Konami had an arcade machine squirreled away against the back wall of their huge booth. That game was DDR and it also was drawing an enormous crowd. DDR machines were just starting to appear in select arcades in the US and since arcades weren't really the center of the gaming scene anymore, most people even within the gaming industry hadn't yet taken notice that these machines were printing money.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 8:35PM CaptainProtonX said

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Wow...wtf indeed.

Bobby said he was going to take the fun out of game making. He's keeping his word.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 9:08PM Starcade said

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The music game market is way over saturated. You've got the guitar games, you've got the band games, you've got the special edition games highlighting specific bands, you've got games featuring DJs and turntables, you've got singing games, you got music games featuring legos. There were too many in the last year, and I think people are starting to get tired of seeing more of the same so often and in so many iterations. It's kind of like when everyone was releasing WWII games.

I'm a little unclear if RedOctane still exists, or they're being relocated and reduced, or being relocated, reduced and no longer considered RedOctane and assimilated into Activision. It would be incredibly stupid on Activision's part to shutter RedOctane in my opinion unless for some reason they consider the music game industry completely dead.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 9:30PM spin cycle said

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Time for WWII music games.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 9:47PM (Unverified) said

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Activision was too big for it's own good. It was bound to happen soon, and coincidentally this news is not that far behind the recent continuing of EA layoffs
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 10:35PM Prince David said

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I will always remember them for the best DDR pads
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 11:24PM Abalistar said

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This is the saddest part. Without them, I don't believe there's any company making quality dance pads anymore. :/
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 10:48PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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People question whether or not there will be another console generation due to the longevity of the current generation.

I question it because I don't know if there will be anyone to develop new games next generation!


Very sad to see this happen to RedOctane.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2010 11:48PM Psychoplasm said

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KOTIIIIIICK!
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 6:44AM mietha said

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What staff did RedOctane have that WERE'NT directly involved with instrument development? Um, isn't that all they ever did? And no great loss, while the GHWT guitar was good, pretty much every thing else they made (especially the drums) was crap. Maybe GH sales are down because the charting sucks? Nah, couldn't be that...
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 7:23AM Hafk said

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Red Octane is known for making some of the highest quality dance mats out there, and the original Guitar Hero SG that came with GH1 and GH2 is the most reliable guitar controller ever made. The Les Paul had a problem with the detachable neck, which was fixed with the WT guitar. And the GH5 guitar even made further improvements.The GH drum kit does have its faults, but the drum-controller on the thing makes it very expandable. Not to mention you can adjust the sensitivity with the drum-tuner kit they offered and shipped out for free.

Red Octane is a fine peripheral company and they did an excellent job with their instruments, and this is coming from, a guy who has used plenty of GH and RB instruments over the years.

As for the charting, well, that's all opinion.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 6:48AM Hellion42 said

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My first experience with Red Octane was with their short-lived fight stick. Ordered one, defective. Returned it, got another. Also defective. They sent out a third. Also defective. Sent sticks 2 and 3 back together. They claimed they only received one of them, which was ridiculous since they were sent back in the same box. The next two months were spent emailing their atrocious customer service (most of the emails being something like "Oh hi, it's been two weeks, still haven't heard back from anyone, please advise, thanks.") to try and get my $80 back. I eventually printed everything out and filed a dispute with my credit card company, which was found in my favor.

My first experience with Guitar Hero was 2-3 years later. I saw it on a shelf at Best Buy, picked it up, and said to myself, "Ooh, this looks neat." Then I saw the RO logo and put it right back down again. I eventually bought it, after much research, and had loads of fun. But I wasn't the least bit surprised when the SG broke before I had even made it to expert.

My inner bitter bastard wants to feel some sort of satisfaction at this turn of events, but knowing that a. the weaselly ass-inhalers responsible for my first encounter with RO are likely long-gone (unless of course the Huangs themselves were manning customer service back then, in which case DIAF) and 2. this came about due to Activision's gleeful teat-wrenching of a genre it would happily bury if it meant a better bottom line, the most I can manage is a meh and a hope that things don't get any worse for this sector of the industry.
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