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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 3:10AM (Unverified) said

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sony is giving away Flow for free. i heard it's only for 24 hours. read it from ps3 attitude. sorry ,don't know how to put links.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 3:17AM Copland said

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I get a 403 error when I try to download it.
I think its the first time the PS store restricted downloads from outside of North America...

I hope this restriction doesn't happen to things like Betas or demos,
cause I really like the BFBC2 demo and also participated in the MAG demo too.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 9:20AM The Pirate said

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Yeah its been restricted to anyone outside of the US
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 4:38AM PilzE wants your mint spaghetti said

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Hit Maker is one of the third party developer that NIS is referring to. They did Blade Dancer and Dragoneer's Aria for the PSP and The Last Rebellion for the PS3. NIS did publish Grim Grimoir which was developed by Vanillaware, so that wasn't so bad of a game. Here's hoping that they'll bring over Ar Tonelico III and Atelier Rorona, both Gust franchises that were published by NIS.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 4:51AM Kyogissun said

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The question is how much does NIS sales affect NIS America?

I know they're related but I don't know if they're the exact same company.

Still, as far as I can tell based on the announcement of NIS America now entering into the anime business, they must not be doing too bad. To note, while some of it's fall releases weren't the greatest things ever, Mana Khemia 2 coming out last summer SURELY had to help them. With a lot of JRPG fans anticipating and eventually getting that, I'm betting they made a good profit.

But yes, here's hopes to Atelier Rorona coming stateside soon... as for Ar Tonelico III, THAT ball is in Namco Bandai's court. IIRC, they have publishing control over it.

If it does well in japan, it probably has a good chance of coming over here... And at least with it being a 360 title, even if there are game breaking glitches from localization, they can be fixed with a patch. The same will go for Atelier Rorona... Hopefully.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 3:14AM emperorzeroxx said

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awwww man We can never have too much Disgaea!! more games now please! =D
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 3:17AM s ls said

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last time I checked bayonetta didn't even chart in the top 10 of January
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 3:17AM s ls said

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dood!
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 3:23AM s ls said

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ah but you also said OR big tits
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 5:02AM (Unverified) said

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I've played and enjoyed Disgaea 1-3, but let's be honest, Disgaea 3 was NOT a ps3 quality game. Disgaea 1-3 so far have been pretty much the same game with a few extra features and a different plot/characters.

I've enjoyed them for their humor and quirky Japanese-ness, but to attract more customers they're going to have to 1) tone down the hardcore-ness of the game 2) UPGRADE THE GRAPHICS and 3) add something new to spice things up, maybe multiplayer, I don't know,
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 6:11AM (Unverified) said

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Having played through Disgaea 3 from start to finish, I am going to have to disagree that it wasn't a PS3-quality game.

The games aren't that "hardcore", it's very easy to get through the main storyline with little grinding. The post game is an addition and an extension, not a "hardcore experience". And with the EXP glitch, leveling is a lot easier in Disgaea 3 than I found in, say, Disgaea 1 and 2.

Two, no, the series does not need a "graphic upgrade". The sprites are much more detailed than Disgaea 2 had, despite any claims otherwise-- this is counting in idle sprites, colors, attack animations, and making sure that they work with every single weapon. I have been very charmed by the Disgaea 3 sprites, especially for the monsters.

Secondly, if you have played Disgaea 3, then you know how large some of the maps can be in the game-- maps like those would never have worked on the Playstation 2, causing stutter and lag to astronomical levels. You ever do Cave of Ordeals 3 in Disgaea 3? If you think that could have been done easily on the PS2, you'd be very mistaken. Not to mention a lot of the processing power from the PS3 will also go to the points and statistics calculations. You might consider the high stats and attack power that goes into the Disgaea series to be a "hardcore" thing, but it is also a NIS standard.

3, what do you think Magichange in Disgaea 3 was? Or the fact that it had an actual post-game session? Or the new modes you can get through DLC, or even Class World, which let you increase statistics themselves? Or do you not know that multiplayer was already done in the PSP ports of Disgaea 1 and 2? Chances are, yes, Disgaea 4 will have a new addition to the gameplay mechanics, but if you haven't noticed the new additions over the series, then you might be looking for something completely different than the series would really offer.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 6:25AM (Unverified) said

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I am still playing disgaea 3 and I am glad to have such a game for the ps3 for a change. State of the art graphics are nice but Disgaea 3 is so full of little details, I wish there were more games like that.

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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 5:45AM (Unverified) said

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Great news, I can't wait to get some new info on D4. I'm sure they'll improve the graphics among other things.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 6:18AM Elmoogle said

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They need to tighten up the graphics.

There, I said it.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 11:02AM The Blank Mage Returns said

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LIES!
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 6:23AM (Unverified) said

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Whatever, Linka. I enjoyed the games but I can see why NIS is in the shithole right now and why Disgaea 3 got mediocre to bad reviews. I really hope they pull out but if they don't come up with something NEW for once they're going to go out of business.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 6:25AM NickNameless said

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I think it's irritating that Jack Niida can claim that continuing 2d graphics is more a stylistic decision than anything else, but Last Rebellion, more than anything else, proves that it's not so much a choice as it is a necessity for them; their team is simply not equipped to produce that kind of work.

I remember back when Disgaea 3 was being announced and several iterations of much of the same had already been produced with very minimal differences, and I began to wonder when Nippon Ichi would step it up a notch, especially in the graphics department. All sorts of Nippon Ichi fans came out of the wetworks to defend their holy company, as if their deity was under attack by some sinister menace; asking more from them was simply unheard of.

And now, several years have passed, even since then, and still very little has changed, and Nippon Ichi's profits have begun to plummet.

It astounds me, sometimes, that some people simply cannot fathom that no matter how much you love something, there is always room for improvement. Always.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 6:41AM (Unverified) said

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There is room for improvement. However, it is ignorant to consider that they have not improved since even La Pucelle Tactics. The greatest obvious graphical jump was, yes, from Disgaea 1 to Disgaea 2-- if you only focus on the Disgaea series. They had multiple games in-between that helped them to improve their sprite artwork, as well.

Currently, I'm playing Soul Nomad and the World Eaters, which is the game that came out before Disgaea 3-- the sprite artwork is very good in there, and their 3D backrounds were more detailed than the maps in Disgaea 2, at the very least. It's something that I've noticed added to the Disgaea 3 maps-- they were a lot more detailed, had more animations to them, and were definitely a lot larger.

I do agree that, yes, Last Rebellion and how it turned out, shows that NIS is just not made for 3D games. It's something that should be expected, though-- most of their in-house games were 2D on 3D maps, after all. It would be more expected that there would be more detail in the 2D sprites as a result, though. I can understand that people expect more detail from the sprites, however, it is still a lot to try to claim that it is the only fault of the company, and that improving the graphics would gain back their profits. Artwork, sprite creation-- it takes a lot of money to do, too. I'd rather they focus on making an enjoyable game than trying to make the sprites look amazing and high-quality. But I can not understand how people would consider the Disgaea 3 graphics to be bad, especially with the amount of details, the clearer animations, and the sharp graphics.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 6:48AM (Unverified) said

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It's bad because the graphics look like it could've been a PS2 game. Maybe it was originally supposed to be? I don't know, but they were unacceptable.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 9:14AM ColorblindMonk said

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I'm up for that new PSP game they announced. Some weird name with all that customization and whatnot.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 9:57AM sapient2k7 said

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Are the reviews for last rebellion already out????

I thought it wasn't released yet and I know reviews get published earlier but still...
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Posted: Feb 14th 2010 1:10AM killdash9 said

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Last Rebellion didn't get very good ratings from Famitsu at the Japanese launch last month.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 11:01AM Mabui said

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Another one for PS3 - bleh.. I want more handheld Disgaea, tactics games are meant to be portable - not some HD experience.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 11:02AM The Blank Mage Returns said

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That chart needs more clip art.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 11:40AM kenny goo said

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The news the other day that Activision will no longer publishing Guitar Hero games on PS2 is very telling about the state of that console. While I still expect solid enough sales throughout the rest of the year and a couple of games your core gamer might be interested in playing, the industry is largely moving away from that console.

If you look at Nippon Ichi, they released three games on PS2 in '08 and '09, but only two (Disgaea 3 and Cross Edge) on PS3 in the same period. Looking to the future, Last Rebellion has already come out so far this year on PS3, and it doesn't look like they're going to be doing anymore PS2 releases.

This should be good news for those on PS3 who bought the console hoping that it would have the same Japanese appeal that the PS2 had. It's been a long time coming (3+ years at this point), but with FFXIII releasing soon and news like this coming out, I think we're going to see a lot more Japanese centric titles coming to the PS3 (and 360 for that matter) over the next year or so.

In other words: can i has kingdom hearts 3 nao plz?
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 12:21PM EvoHelix said

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We had better see some HD sprites this time. The last game was such a cop-out.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 12:32PM phinn said

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I'd definitely say if they made a Disgaea 4 with the gameplay depth I've heard about in the other ones (I've never played them), but with an updated game engine, better music, and more involved story... I'd buy it.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 12:45PM KOSMOS1 said

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Where is the love for MAKAI KINGDOM? IMO it is the best of the games set in the Disgaea universe, despite its glitches.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 2:02PM Twist said

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In the position they are in you would think that they would do better to spread their efforts out to as many platforms as possible instead of limiting them to just PS3. I think they should branch out to the Xbox 360 and Wii and also stop making disc based games in favor of making XBLA, PSN, and WiiWare titles for a while. I would buy Disgaea 1 (again) & 2 on XBLA in a second.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2010 3:24PM DrunkRaba said

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They have some crazy big boobed demon girls in Disagea!
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Posted: Feb 14th 2010 12:17AM urbanbuddha said

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Honestly for me, the more Disgaea the better. I love the universe, so I can't go wrong with that.

@NIS, just make sure you keep the Japanese voices + English subs in tact :D
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Posted: Feb 14th 2010 8:39AM sapient2k7 said

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Thanks Killdash9, I was hoping it would be good especially since it was announced as a budget title (think PS2 era graphics etc.)
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Posted: Feb 14th 2010 4:00PM (Unverified) said

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@Phil

Ar Tonelico III and Atelier are PS3 exclusives, as in there are no 360 versions. Seriously, not everything comes to the 360.
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Posted: Mar 13th 2010 12:13AM (Unverified) said

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I've yet to enjoy Disgaea past its first mission, but for all I've heard I'd give it another shot if it was ported over Marketplace or XBL. As a Hardcore Gamer investments in our industry has really made me to understand that not all your games that you'll like will be on one system.

I love Final Fantasy and bought 13 for the PS3 and very glad I did. I've enjoyed Halo on Microsofts system, and Fire Emblem has proved to be a very interesting series for our N fans.

But to see a series and a company struggle, I'd give it a chance by starting at the beginning. I plan to do the same for other older titles I missed out on, like Persona. Like most, I can't buy everything, but enjoy alittle of both worlds. Keeping up with the new, and catching up with the old. Not being a Graphics Whore really helps me enjoy Retro games for PC and older consoles. So I'll be able to enjoy gaming for the rest of my life.

Hopefully we can all enjoy our games as more than passing interest.
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