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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:33PM departer said

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Every time you leave out LAN or dedicated server support for an online game a child in Africa dies...
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:36PM Wildside said

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or a loss of a sale :(.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:38PM DevilSei said

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Yeah, now lets just tally that up with how many kids die from disease, malnutrition, pirates, psychopaths, and god knows what else...



Now, if you make it "Every time you leave out LAN or dedicated server support for an online game, a child in your neighbor's house dies..." then they'll really care.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:02PM Dr Perry Ulysses Cox said

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Please, liquid, they've been using that same argument with regard to DDT for years. devilsei is right, sadly.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:12PM Acosta02 said

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Developers jointly announce no more dedicated servers, ever

Gameheadlines

http://twitter.com/gameheadlines/status/8404285977
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 12:20AM TraV said

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PLEASE! PLEASE! CAN'T ANYONE THINK OF THE MONEY?, oh I mean Children....
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 1:08AM einhanderkiller said

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But most RTS games don't use dedicated servers. The only one I can think of that does is World in Conflict.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 4:30AM (Unverified) said

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RTS games have never used dedicated servers except for a few occasions. This is not news.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 8:41AM departer said

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Well, so far b.net has hosted all the games since Diablo 2. Or am I wrong about that?
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 2:54PM Draco84 said

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B.net is a glorified gamespy, doesnt host anything (except WOW) but allows matchmaking, dedicated servers aren't important in RTS like they are in FPS because you wont miss a headshot because of lag. You can play Starcraft 1 on dial up, so I wouldnt be too worried.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 2:55PM (Unverified) said

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Wrong you are, Warcraft 2, 3 and Starcraft have player hosting. Battle.net just does the match making. This is normal.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 3:06PM RageOverdose said

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No Draco, missing a headshot is not as important as giving my army an order that it won't respond to until it's too late.

That's why people had private gateways in Starcraft.

But seriously, the only issue here is lack of LAN. Dedicated servers is a non-issue for RTS games.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 3:07PM departer said

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Well, Diablo 2 games were hosted on b.net servers that's what I know. And Heroes of Newerth having servers is something amazing. Played more than 300 games and I've had only 1 game fail because of server load.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:37PM (Unverified) said

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This seems fair to me
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:03PM sigma8 said

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Wow I guess people really like online profiles. Seems kinda boring to me, and a poor trade off for better networking flexibility. I guess they're helpful for the epeen.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:40PM MystileArmor said

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It wouldn't surprise me if someone made some sort of LAN patch/mod whatever you want to call it... If someone can make GTA San Andreas into an online multi-player game, someone can patch a game to work on a LAN.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:46PM (Unverified) said

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This is an outrage. Look at how upset I am. ----> :(
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:50PM Rentaro said

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Shouldn't that arrow be pointing in the other direction?
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 12:24AM DevilSei said

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No, the ">" is his angry brows, and the "-----" is the horn he grew from all the intense frowning... =P
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 4:04AM Omega2k3 said

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Worst post ever award goes to devilsei.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:49PM (Unverified) said

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One more reason I won't be buying this game.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 9:10AM D dogg said

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The fact it's not on a console pretty much does it for me - I'm not into buying a new console just about every year anymore (i.e. upgrading PC parts).

I will admit though, a controller (even the Wii's) is no substitute for KB + mouse.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 11:00AM AltairDusk said

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Where do people get this idea that if you don't upgrade every year/3 months/etc... then you won't be able to game on PC?
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:52PM Extinction said

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Wouldn't it make more sense to have LAN, and just have your profile downloaded from the server?

Or have LAN with more balanced profiles so it's not some OCD level 99 against their level 5 friend-for-not-much-longer?
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:52PM Dunch said

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That's a bad decision
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:53PM Ashitaka said

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"We've contacted Bono to see if he'd lend his musical support to a charity concert event."

Oh, Griffin. I know I said it already in the FarmVille post but I have to say it again: I love you xD
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:54PM Crusty Magic said

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Crusty Magic doesn't have support for Command and Conquer 4.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:56PM Crusty Magic said

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Also:

"It all lives on a server so you can't really do dedicated servers with that."

Um, so what happens to my information when EA decides to cut bait with the servers?
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:51PM Freddie Mercury said

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They're hoping you'll be playing C&C5
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:54PM LordPoncho said

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Honestly, I can see why companies may have decided to do this for multiplatform games...but a PC exclusive? That just makes no sense at all O.o
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:16PM Acosta02 said

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Maybe to cut down piracy? That's why starcraft cut the LAN, right?


Not that it'll help any. I like how it seems that by cutting features to prevent pirates, it always just seems to help the pirates.

please note: I don't actually like this.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:47PM LordPoncho said

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Ehh, well, they're logic doesn't entirely work. I mean, you can save character statisics and have dedicated servers. Just look at Battlefield 2142. and Bad Company 2.

Both have dedicated servers and player progression.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:51PM LordPoncho said

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their*

I'm my own grammar nazi.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 11:21PM Acosta02 said

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I'm not saying their logic is particularly sound; I thought you were talking about the lack of LAN support, but I guess you're not! My bad!
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 11:22PM LordPoncho said

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Pft, I don't care about LAN support, or this game in general since I don't really like competitive RTS play. I just see this as a really dumb move.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:56PM (Unverified) said

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RTS games have never had dedicated servers. The only issue is LAN but even that doesn't really matter
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:56PM Centaur said

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I have a bad feeling about this.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 9:59PM Jawmuncher said

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Doesn't matter anyway.
C&C4 is hardly what I would call a good game.

I'll stick with the originals.
There better and 3 of them are free now
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:06PM Sleepyperson said

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I don't get why there cutting LAN out when there's still massive LAN party's hosted by companies.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:09PM gadgetgod said

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And when EA shuts down the server in 3 years you won't have any multiplayer option... great value!
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:12PM ViciousBastard said

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yea wtf, dedicated servers is one thing because u have to continue to manage them but no LAN!? cmon!
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:12PM Premature ejaculation man said

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The way I see it. There's no point in buying a game that has parts of it dependent on an online server.

I still play a lot of old games and with this, I can't install it 5 years down the line and play it since it won't be able to contact the host server. I also wouldn't be able to play it with friends since they've ditched lan.

So they have lost a sale with me. I love C&C...
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:19PM RKN said

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It is absolutely amazing what efforts these publishers and developers are taking to shit on the PC, it must be a very fun game for them.

There is no reason to cut these features except mostly to piss of PC gamers. You can't piss off console gamers because of their numbers and buying power apparently.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:29PM RKN said

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Except this is actually a PC article, not like before when I mentioned the PC in a console article. So please, chill out. In fact, what are you doing here? : )
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:34PM RKN said

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Have I made any enemies here on Joystiq yet? : )
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:47PM RKN said

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WHAT!? YOU MEAN YOU CAN BE A PC AND A CONSOLE GAMER AT THE SAME TIME!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 11:05PM Sly C said

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@Dr.

"Left 4 Dead - 264.7 hrs on record"
"Left 4 Dead 2 - 145.9 hrs on record"

holy wow.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 11:14PM RKN said

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Oh come on, now I'm getting downvoted for no reason. But I don't blame whoevers doing it, I do it to some Joystiqers I dislike as well. : P
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Posted: Feb 20th 2010 10:23PM MonkeyRoach said

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This game doesn't need dedicated servers and no lan support is pulling a blizzard.
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