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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 3:39PM Aurailious said

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I love Starcraft.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 3:44PM (Unverified) said

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And Starcraft loves you.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 3:45PM greengiant912 said

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Yeah, I was a blizzcon 2008 attendee and I got two yes TWO beta invites in the first wave o.o, gave one to my buddy so we can play together :)
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 4:04PM KentuckyFrydCow28 said

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Thanks for that by the way.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 4:50PM darkinchworm said

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...who are you responding to, Mr. Bandicoot?
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 4:53PM KentuckyFrydCow28 said

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What, a Bandicoot can't enjoy a nice dildo? Is that it?!
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 4:08PM Drakkenfyre said

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Why would you reconsider dropping money? Not that I endorse selling the codes, but he is talking about the guaranteed beta card holders, the people who attended BlizzCon. If you have one of those cards, you get in. You won't have to buy a code at all.

The explaination was, if you had one of the cards, and entered the code, and didn't get key yet, you will later.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 4:47PM R Planteer said

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Ive been playing a lot of Dawn of War 2 recently, especially Last Stand mode (mega fun btw).

I dont know if I am ready to return to base building and Proton Cannon walls...
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 4:34PM (Unverified) said

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What's a Proton Cannon wall? And if you built cannon walls you were just bad and the game doesn't want you back.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 4:53PM HollowYoshi said

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Yeah I really hope it's not just the Blizzcon attendees who get invites in the next waves, I still want to play this... BADLY.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 5:21PM einhanderkiller said

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StarCraft 2 is so good.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 6:47PM farenkaito said

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"You must have at least one full version of a Blizzard Entertainment game attached to this Battle.net account in order to set up your beta profile."

WHAT THE F*CK?
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 7:54PM MrKlorox said

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Boo hoo. Just enter your CD key for Diablo II or Warcraft 3 or Starcraft (or any of the expansions for these games) and it'll add the game to your Blizzard account. If you don't already own a Blizzard game: get out of here, this beta isn't for you.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 8:11PM farenkaito said

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There is no mention of requiring a purchase in any literature on the Blizzard site-- that includes the FAQ and also the Beta Test Agreement. The latter actually states the four requirements for eligibility, yet there is no mention of the purchase requirement. That means that Blizzard is breaking their own damn contract. Blizzard is screwing over a lot of people this way and they're doing it completely dishonestly.

As a matter of fact I own Diablo, Starcraft and Warcraft III but as those games came out about a hundred years ago, they currently reside at home across the Atlantic. If you can find some way of fetching them for me then be my guest, otherwise don't be a smart ass. If you can't stop being an ass: get out of here. This web site isn't for you.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 9:51PM RageOverdose said

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Please be a troll.

If you read the agreement that comes with the System Check software, there are actually 5 requirements, the 5th implying that there may be additional agreements for a beta test, as the agreement in the software is GENERAL and applies for all universe betas. The Starcraft 2 Beta requires at least 1 game to be tied to your Blizzard account, and Blizzard even stats in the SC2 Beta FAQ that there may be additional things they look at for opt-ins, as well as luck playing a factor.

This is actually fair as it can prevent any sort of plan people may put together to increase their chances of getting in such as setting up multiple dead accounts with bots or something.

If you are so against having someone send the keys to you and against buying at least Starcraft again which is cheap, then quit complaining.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 11:35PM farenkaito said

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Well, actually, I didn't read the agreement that comes with the system check software, because I CAN'T DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE WITHOUT OPTING IN TO THE BETA. Use your brain. Even if I had been able to download System Check, it's as you said-- it's GENERAL. It applies generally to the system check software. This doesn't mean Blizzard gets a free pass to violate the SCII BTA-- the system check agreement applies to the system check software only. As for the FAQ, it is not a contract or a legally binding document. I'm not saying the BTA is, but it's set up like one. Where is the press coverage of the fact that I need to buy a game to get into a free beta? I certainly didn't read anything about that on here, and I read this blog every day.

As for preventing people from setting up multiple dead accounts with a bot, they already have a system in place for that, and it's exactly the same system that works for this here blog-- requiring people to enter an e-mail address and then confirm their account through e-mail. It seems to work fine for this site, and Blizzard is already using it.

Look, I'm sorry if this doesn't gel with clear belief that Blizzard can do no wrong, but believe it or not this is not the first questionable tactic Blizzard is using with SCII. For instance, requiring users to purchase new "premium maps" when every Blizzard strategy game ever made has been supported with free dev-made maps. Also, requiring each user to purchase a copy to play LAN is also a break with tradition, and yet another attempt to wring even more money out of this game. Don't even get me started on how they're making us buy the same damn game three times to play all three campaigns. I don't want to hear the party line on how "now they get to spend more time on the Terran campaign--" the first game shipped with three campaigns that were fully fleshed-out, and SCII has been in development for years. If Blizzard wanted to include three campaigns, they could have.

Oh yeah, and guess what? I'm a broke-ass student. I'm not paying twice for a game that I bought in 2001. Seeing as you appear to work for Blizzard, could you please send me a copy?
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 3:41AM RageOverdose said

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You are a troll or a complete moron. You're also a prick. And, you should be using your brain.

For one, the agreement that comes with System Check is the Beta Test Agreement. It's not for the software. They show it in a screenshot in the FAQ detailing how to opt-in to the betas.

You can't view the BTA that comes with the System Check software, yet you referenced it? I don't understand this. So, you are a liar, or you saw that screenshot and decided you somehow knew the whole agreement despite the fact it clearly shows it doesn't end at 4 requirements.

You also referenced the FAQ as evidence to your shitty argument, so telling me I can't is pathetic hypocrisy. And, as the BTA states they can add whatever the damn hell they want as a requirement for eligibility, then they can make a requirement that you must have a game tied to your Battle.net account. This requirement is stated in the FAQ for opt-ins (all opt-ins, mind you).

I can't really take your lame arguments against Blizzard's decisions seriously. You and actually a lot of people, probably don't even understand half of the business side to Starcraft. There's actually too much to it all to even explain here. Let me just say, the competitive scene in South Korea rakes in a lot of money, and Blizzard has basically been unable to reap those rewards due to some questionable practices by an organization that would make Activision seem a little better.

So, yeah.

They aren't breaching anything legally stated. You really just have no idea what you are talking about, at all.

I'm also a broke ass student, join the club.


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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 4:22AM farenkaito said

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No, no, no, no, no.

You've made all sorts of noob mistakes. You've either never flamed someone before or you're a failed troll. Also you didn't deny that you worked for Blizzard, and since you seem to know so much about South Korea, I'm just going to go ahead and call you "Blizzard Associate (message) Board Operator," or Babo for short.

You see, Babo, I'm not sure how much Blizzard is paying you, but if they really want to increase their revenue stream then they should probably consider reducing your salary. Because you see, Babo, the BTA is right here: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23329323311&sid=5010

That's right, Babo. If you had used your super internet skills to dig through the large, complex Blizzard web sites, you could have eventually found your way to the BTA by clicking that small, hard to find yellow box in the bottom right hand corner of the main page. And then, if you were particularly lucky, you might have stumbled into the "General" forum, and, after several minutes of fruitless searching, you would maybe (if you were extra, extra lucky) have found the sticky topic, which in small, easy-to-miss BRIGHT BLUE CAPITAL LETTERS is the above elusive topic.

Actually, Babo, there is one thing you didn't know (one of only a very small number of things, I am sure, as you clearly have access to the vast and fruitful information available on the internet, and are obviously very adept at accessing it). You see, Babo, I actually used to live in South Korea, and while I was there I enjoyed going to a nice little place that they have there in every town called a PC Bang, which, roughly translated into your language, means "a place where people go to pay a little bit of money so they can sit and play computer games." And as you no doubt know, from your exhaustive research and experience, Babo, every computer in one of these "Internet Cafes" is loaded with an individual copy of Starcraft. In fact, I'm also completely sure that you are aware that there are more computers per person than pretty much any country in the world.

I know math is not your strong suit, so I will try and put this in as simple of terms as possible. Starcraft is one of the best selling games of all time (that means it sold lots and lots of copies). Starcraft II will also undoubtedly be one of the best selling games of all time. Now, Babo, you may recall that Blizzard continued to sell the Starcraft Battle Pack at nearly the price of a new game for many years after it came out, because it continued to sell and sell and sell. I want you to imagine now what will happen when Blizzard continues to sell Starcraft II at this price point for years and years after it comes out. What's that? They'll make more money than Jesus? Oh, wait? They already have, by releasing the most popular MMORPG of all time? Oh really? But I was so worried about poor, poor Blizzard, and the incredible difficulty they've had making money lately.

But getting back to the matter at hand, Babo, if you were feeling extra, extra deductive, you might have noticed that the BTA posted on the forums was posted there on the 19th of February, which, if you try really, really hard, I'm sure you would realise that that was 3 days ago. What's that, Babo? Oh, you're right, that was posted AFTER the beta went live. Which means AFTER the system check terms were finalised. Which means that they are newer. You know what newer means, right? Good job, Babo!

Actually, I'm feeling particularly jolly this morning, as I have not slept all night, so I'm going to do you a special favour. I'm going to use some very advanced computer functions called "copy" and "paste," which you will no doubt learn about when you rise a bit higher in the Blizzard corporate ranks.

1. Eligibility. Your eligibility to participate in this StarCraft® II Beta Test is subject to the following conditions: (i) You must have registered a Battle.net® account which is in good standing (the “Account”;); (ii) you must be an adult in your country of residence; (iii) you must agree to the terms of this Beta Test Agreement; and (iv) the computer system that you will use to take part in the Beta Test (the “System”) must meet the specifications which Blizzard determines are required for the Beta Test. Please note that Blizzard has the right to change the required system specifications at any time during the Beta Test, and if at any time during the Beta Test your System does not meet the requirements that Blizzard has determined are required for the Beta Test, Blizzard may determine that you are ineligible to continue to participate in the Beta Test. In order to determine your eligibility for the Beta Test, you specifically agree to allow Blizzard to obtain hardware and software information from the System prior to registration for the Beta Test in order for Blizzard to determine if you are eligible participate.

So you see, Babo, my internet buddy, there are only four requirements. Despite your attempt to tell the world otherwise, Babo, I stand resolute and firm, just as Captain Picard did before me, when I say that

THERE... ARE... FOUR... REQUIREMENTS!

Well, that's enough excitement for one day, Babo. I think it's time for your nap. Would you like me to make you a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Oh, and I'm sorry, but I can't join your poor student club. You see, Babo, I'm in university, which, if you work hard and do well, is maybe where you'll end up in ten years or so. Until then, have a great day in primary school!

That is how you flame someone. I really do hope Blizzard is paying you, Babo, so you can buy yourself something nice to forget the rape I have just delivered. Have a nice day.
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 11:33AM RageOverdose said

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Because "i mad" now, I'm just going to say a few things really quickly.

I don't flame. Flaming is for, well, teenagers or people with no arguments. And, I don't work for Blizzard. I also don't think they are gods.

The Beta Agreement I'm referring to applies to ALL BETAS. You can find a lawyer and ask him/her (or contact Blizzard, but good luck) if the SCII BTA overrides everything in the other BTA or not.

You living in South Korea doesn't mean anything to me. Either you know about what I'm talking about or you don't. The older competitive scene is pretty aware of all this, with people actually moving in/out of South Korea.

Also, you didn't rape anything except the length of this webpage. In fact, you basically didn't say anything but "OMFG, HEREZ TEH BTA NUB!!1 REED YOU LOLOLOLOL!"

Also, I've been trolled. Good job.




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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 12:55PM Drakkenfyre said

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Hey. the beta opt-in was started last year. The "need to register a game to enter it" has been up for a long time. It's your fault you didn't look into it until now.

You may not have been able to get your CD keys anyway, but at least you would have known about it then.
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Posted: Feb 21st 2010 10:17PM SpideyBR said

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Just add a WoW trial to your account and you're good to go.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 9:11PM (Unverified) said

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WoW Trials don't work.
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 1:26AM (Unverified) said

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Ahhh, seeing all these people with betas is like being a diabetic in a candy store. YOU WANT IT SO BAD BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT!
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 2:26AM Autopsy15 said

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Gods of Joystiq, please, BAN THIS SPAMMER.
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 11:05AM FredFredrickson said

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I went to BlizzCon last year, and I used the beta card they gave out as soon as I got home. The result was that I got into the SC2 beta immediately last week, and had a beta key waiting in my email inbox the day they launched it.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 1:14AM (Unverified) said

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Hey. I went to blizzcon in 2008. what voucher are they talking about? is that the card that said blizzcon? which one is it?
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Posted: Apr 27th 2010 8:44PM (Unverified) said

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Please please please! My situation is desperate! I love and I'm a Fan Blizz the start of the SC1 but what is not got the key: (Search everywhere for everyone writes! Nobody wants to have mercy! To send key to email ..: / with my whole heart Please help need not be a new key after all is also a friend invite! my email yellow23081990@gmail.com
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