Wobble iBoobs -- an ... ahem ... adult App for the iPhone -- was recently kicked from Apple's digital distribution store due to "overtly sexual content" that the publisher at one point deemed acceptable for sale (to the tune of $300,000 AUD/$269,820 USD). The application's outraged developer has since posted the letter from Apple on his personal blog and aired his grievances more thoroughly over the course of another 11 pieces.
He certainly makes a strong argument against the claimed "overtly sexual" charge from Apple, starting off with the fact that Wobble iBoobs doesn't actually come with any pictures. "Yep, no content – it ships without any pics at all – how can it be overtly sexual, people use their own pics." Further, he lays out what he claims are an Apple rep's answers when he requested the new criteria for App submission, of which include "No skin" and "No silhouettes that indicate that Wobble can be used for wobbling boobs" (like this). While the blog's writer, iPhone app promoter Jon Atherton from Glentwood, has some sound arguments, we would maybe suggest renaming the App. Just a thought is all.
[Via CasualGaming.biz]
Reader Comments (42)
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 6:44PM Funkmaster General said
Indeed. I read this on Macrumors this afternoon. Hundreds of Apps have been removed, and the opinions are mixed.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:34PM (Unverified) said
Seems like Apple is really bringing down the whip.
And the paddle.
Oh, and a pair of handcuffs.
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And the paddle.
Oh, and a pair of handcuffs.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:59PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said
That sounds far sexier than what they're actually doing.
Go on.
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Go on.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 6:52PM (Unverified) said
This leads me to wonder what the Ipad iteration of the game's selling point would be had the games life not been cut short..
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 6:52PM leobebes said
Get a Droid.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 6:53PM FredFredrickson said
This is yet another reason why the iPad is going to be a complete disaster. Are they going to censor "iBooks" (ugh) as well?
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 6:59PM FredFredrickson said
Seriously, Apple as gatekeeper for all things wholesome is going to be worse than an Arkansas school board.
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 6:54PM Miketor said
Why don't they make up their minds BEFORE they allow it in the store in the first place, take this for example http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10226232-37.html
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 6:56PM xyloPhipps said
IMO this has no place on Joystiq. Stick to real game coverage please.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 6:56PM Jason B said
While it is Apple's right to disallow certain content or apps from appearing on their store, it is kind of ridiculous for them to allow an app, take whatever their percentage of the profit is that they get from said app after it sells pretty well and then claim outrage when someone or something complains about the app. If they were truly appalled by the app then maybe they should of either not allowed it in the first place or return any money they made from the app to the creator as taking the money shows where their priorities truly lie.
And why is this on Joystiq? Engadget or their Apple blog would have been a better place for it.
And why is this on Joystiq? Engadget or their Apple blog would have been a better place for it.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:16PM DonaldMick said
Because some of the apps getting pulled were games (and you bet your ass that Engadget/TUAW had stories on this).
Also, it shows that Apple has the same standards for content that the other console manufacturers have - boobs is a guaranteed AO from the ESRB (see: Coffee, Hot) so it wouldn't be approved for sale on any of the consoles either.
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Also, it shows that Apple has the same standards for content that the other console manufacturers have - boobs is a guaranteed AO from the ESRB (see: Coffee, Hot) so it wouldn't be approved for sale on any of the consoles either.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:02PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said
Bare breasts isn't a guaranteed AO. God of War, Heavy Rain, BMX XXX, and Dante's Inferno are some games that feature bare breasts (the last one on the list being rather... bizarre). The deal with Hot Coffee was it was a sexual mini-game (granted, you had to hack to access it, anyways...), not because it had bare breasts.
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:03PM CaramelZappa said
This has been my major concern with the App store from the begining. Without any clear rules as to what is allowed and appropriate and what is not, putting anything at all on the app store is a huge gamble. It's not fair to developers to say "Hey, develop for my device! Spend lots of money on it! Then when you're done, I'll decide if I want it on my store or not."
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:04PM Sly C said
judging by the guidelines, a lot of the best games on iphone (like NOVA) are going to have to be edited or removed. that would be a HORRIBLE idea.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:05PM s ls said
got a PS3 again?
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:16PM Dante G said
LOL at the ad. Over 150,000 already wobbling!!! XD
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 2:46AM BrokenTriforce said
What I wanna know is if that's 150,000 single boobs or 150,000 pairs of boobs.
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:21PM (Unverified) said
Yeah, because those iBoobs were a great contribution to the community and will be sorely missed by everyone.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:05PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said
Whether or not it's a worthwhile app isn't the issue, the issue is that Apple is enforcing stricter censorship than before, removing our ability to make choices for ourselves. They're trying to act high and mighty about this WHEN THE THING COMES WITH A WEB BROWSER ALREADY INSTALLED ON THE THING.
AND DID YOU KNOW THERE'S PORN ON THE INTERNET? TONS OF IT, AND THAT'S WHY AL GORE INVENTED IT.
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AND DID YOU KNOW THERE'S PORN ON THE INTERNET? TONS OF IT, AND THAT'S WHY AL GORE INVENTED IT.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:22PM MarkHawk said
I don't see why but I thought I was an adult and could choose for myself.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:56PM Istari Spartan said
No.
Choices must be made for you!
Apple is a big Company, they know best.
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Choices must be made for you!
Apple is a big Company, they know best.
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 1:30AM KentuckyFrydCow28 said
Your comment needs to be even bluer.
Seriously
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Seriously
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:30PM pika2000 said
Here's the thing, what if the dev of the app explicitly put an Adult/Mature rating? I don't know the details, but are those pulled apps have the appropriate ratings, or do the devs try to sneak them with a lesser age rating?
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:54PM Gib said
Apple's "rating" is actually chosen by the developer as part of the submission process (http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/29/heres-how-iphone-app-store-ratings-work-hint-they-dont/). If Apple doesn't agree with your rating, you aren't allowed in the store.
There is no ESRB rating for Apps... This may be a reason why (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/09/psp-minis-developer-surprised-by-cost-of-esrb-ratings/), even at the discounted price of $800 to be rated, many developers would not be able to get an official rating.
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There is no ESRB rating for Apps... This may be a reason why (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/09/psp-minis-developer-surprised-by-cost-of-esrb-ratings/), even at the discounted price of $800 to be rated, many developers would not be able to get an official rating.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:57PM pika2000 said
@Gib: I've seen some of these kinds of juvenile apps having a 4+ ratings in the app store. If Apple is cracking down on those, then I don't mind. However, if Apple intentionally pulls apps where the devs have explicitly specify an adult/older age rating, then that's a problem. Since all of those apps are pulled down already, I guess we'll never know.
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 7:37PM Drakkenfyre said
It's not that they just pulled this app down, they pulled down ALL apps which had "sexuality" in them. They pulled down 5000 apps, and when the guy in the story asked them what was going on, they quoted a new policy, including "no skin".
When naming off things that weren't allowed, he asked the Apple rep "What about burqas?", which pissed the rep off.
When naming off things that weren't allowed, he asked the Apple rep "What about burqas?", which pissed the rep off.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:00PM Toop said
Lmao "I demand to be able to have jiggling boobie apps on my cell phone! How dare Apple stand in my way!"
You may not buy an Apple product because of how they control what can be released for the platform, but what a silly post to express that opinion on.
You may not buy an Apple product because of how they control what can be released for the platform, but what a silly post to express that opinion on.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:09PM MrSpaceCowboy said
If you can't use your iFap, use your Palm!
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:24PM Korova Pamplona said
portable porn is the god-given right of every American
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:35PM Korova Pamplona said
Apple might as well merge with Disney, their prudishness is getting that high.
On the one hand, I dont want smut in the App Store. On the other, I dont trust Apple to be the censor.
They need to get a neutral trusted third party involved in rating/ limiting access to adults only.
Maybe there should just be a separate adults only app store that is separate from iTunes.
Will Apple give up control? Probably not. It just means they will lose leadership in the category once again. Just like they did with PCs.
On the one hand, I dont want smut in the App Store. On the other, I dont trust Apple to be the censor.
They need to get a neutral trusted third party involved in rating/ limiting access to adults only.
Maybe there should just be a separate adults only app store that is separate from iTunes.
Will Apple give up control? Probably not. It just means they will lose leadership in the category once again. Just like they did with PCs.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 8:58PM CarpeD1em500 said
Upvoted. I seriously hate Apple more every day. This should be impossible. Yet...
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 9:31PM StarFoxA said
They completely do have a right to decide what apps can and cannot be developed for their platform. For example, all major game retailers do not carry AO rated games. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo don't allow AO rated games on their platforms. So saying that Apple can't dictate what goes on their platform is completely ridiculous when Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo have been doing it for years. Besides, are you really that distraught that some adult apps were taken off the app marketplace?
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 10:16PM Yuccadude said
Starfoxa, that is because almost all retailers are "family friendly" and won't stock AO games, it's not that the the console makers won't do it, it's the developers and publishers that don't want to sell to smaller audiences.
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 10:32PM (Unverified) said
@StarfoxA
That would make sense, but Apple allows Sports illustrated swimsuit edition and they ban a application that lets you buy clothing which happens to be a bathing suit. If you see pictures of the app, the women are in the same bathing suits as you find in a Sunday paper. This is why Apple should be smacked down for this. Apple's hypocracy always amazes me .
That would make sense, but Apple allows Sports illustrated swimsuit edition and they ban a application that lets you buy clothing which happens to be a bathing suit. If you see pictures of the app, the women are in the same bathing suits as you find in a Sunday paper. This is why Apple should be smacked down for this. Apple's hypocracy always amazes me .
Posted: Feb 22nd 2010 11:50PM delapp15 said
Damn it, now how am i going to by my piles and piles of dildos and other adult accessories while at the convenience of being on my iphone and being at work..... Simultaneously, Damn you corporate America You prude fools.
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 4:56AM colinwilcox said
This story would be much cooler if it had turned out that the app was phoning home all the pics that people were using.
srsly what was that guy thinking
srsly what was that guy thinking
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 6:04AM giangc said
Jon Atherton is a horrible person. Just look and see:
http://negativegamer.com/2009/12/09/300-and-ill-talk-about-breasts-on-my-blog/
http://theportablegamer.com/2009/12/editorial-app-reviewed/
http://negativegamer.com/2009/12/09/300-and-ill-talk-about-breasts-on-my-blog/
http://theportablegamer.com/2009/12/editorial-app-reviewed/
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 2:06PM warmonk said
This guy is a douche. If he doesn't like Apple's hardass rules, he's welcome to develop his own mobile OS and App store.
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