It's rare for a console to get a spec upgrade in the middle of its life. However, Sony has stealthily upgraded the PS3 over the past few months to unlock additional usable RAM for developers. Much like the PSP received a boost in clock speed, the latest firmware updates provide developers an additional 70MB of RAM to work with. The change was initially discovered by PlayStation University, noting the reduction in the system OS's memory footprint, from 120MB to 50MB. As the OS continues to slim down, developers are allowed access to even more usable system memory.
SCEA's Patrick Seybold recently confirmed the change to Joystiq. "Since the launch of the PS3, we have been continuously making efforts to reinforce our support system to game developers, allowing them to express their creativity freely on the PS3. As part of this support for game development, the size of the PS3 OS memory footprint has been reduced through network update for the game developers."
While 70MB of additional memory is not insignificant, don't expect drastic changes to future PS3 games. A PS3 developer told us that "any bit of RAM helps. Generally it probably won't change design, but might allow extra effects resolution or dynamic lights or something. Probably more beneficial from the systems and art side then from design/gameplay." In tandem with increasingly efficient code, the added RAM will undoubtedly make for even better looking games. Certainly, that's not something we'd complain about.
Reader Comments (128)
Posted: Feb 24th 2010 9:45AM Ice Cold said
#1. Wake me Up when 1 game takes advantage of this.
#2. Maybe some day it will catch up to the 360 only uses 32MB for system OS
#3. Show me 1 just one official Sony link to the PS3's GPU Specs (they hide it) because its slower than 500mhz
#2. Maybe some day it will catch up to the 360 only uses 32MB for system OS
#3. Show me 1 just one official Sony link to the PS3's GPU Specs (they hide it) because its slower than 500mhz
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 6:59PM Kadamon said
So, I have to ask...I know why the N64 did it, because there wasn't enough actually installed into the system, so why is it that with the PS3 having it installed, they weren't using it from the getgo?
Did I miss some sort of leap in logic here?
Did I miss some sort of leap in logic here?
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 7:42PM (Unverified) said
It wasn't included from the getgo because the system operating system was using that memory. They've slimmed the amount of memory the OS uses and have made it available to developers.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 8:27PM Drakkenfyre said
There was "enough" on the Nintendo 64. The system had 4MB of RAM. They didn't need more. The system did have a shortage of video RAM (2KB) but sytem RAM was fine.
The Expansion Pak came about because the Turok Acclaim team was in Japan, saw the Expansion Pak, which at the time was only for the 64DD, which required it to operate, and realized what good it could do. So they convinced Nintendo to release it here.
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The Expansion Pak came about because the Turok Acclaim team was in Japan, saw the Expansion Pak, which at the time was only for the 64DD, which required it to operate, and realized what good it could do. So they convinced Nintendo to release it here.
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 7:09PM (Unverified) said
Nice. Looking forward to seeing what devs do with that little extra ram. More sparkly twinkly please?
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 7:31PM (Unverified) said
#1 We must obviously assume that 1st party studios have a head start on this. How much nobody knows.
#2 My question would be how this impacts multi-platform games for obvious reasons.
#3 I would assume the immediate benefit to this would be in the frame rate of games.
Can anyone who knows more than I do about programming talk about these issues?
#2 My question would be how this impacts multi-platform games for obvious reasons.
#3 I would assume the immediate benefit to this would be in the frame rate of games.
Can anyone who knows more than I do about programming talk about these issues?
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 7:48PM CrabBattle said
That made perfect dark's multiplayer soooo better! I'd go every friday to my friends house just to play PD for hours. I miss the booby trap gun...
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 8:45PM Covarr said
How will this affect people who ALREADY HAVE PS3s? I suspect new games will come out that don't work on all systems.
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 9:12PM cloud858rk said
They aren't adding more RAM, the OS is using up less.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 9:04PM (Unverified) said
A PS3 developer told us that "any bit of RAM helps. Generally it probably won't change design, but might allow extra effects resolution or dynamic lights or something. Probably more beneficial from the systems and art side then from design/gameplay." In tandem with increasingly efficient code, the added RAM will undoubtedly make for even better looking games.
Comprehend that.
Comprehend that.
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 9:24PM Covarr said
Lol, ignore me, evidently I can't read.
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 9:26PM AkumaFTW said
Maybe they could've just used that RAM to run music in the background.
Posted: Feb 23rd 2010 9:59PM (Unverified) said
Hopefully this helps Crytek. I remember a while back they said were having a tough time with the consoles.
Posted: Feb 24th 2010 8:25PM (Unverified) said
So thats why GT5 was delayed.....
Posted: Feb 24th 2010 1:00AM Lekko said
While it's cool that games have more to work with, it kinda sucks because it's almost like saying the PS3 won't get any really fancy new OS features since they are basically finalizing what it can do and cementing it in stone.
Seeing as we still don't have cross game chat, I hope that feature wouldn't have require any of that RAM they just axed.
When WAS the last real firmware update anyway?
Seeing as we still don't have cross game chat, I hope that feature wouldn't have require any of that RAM they just axed.
When WAS the last real firmware update anyway?
Posted: Feb 24th 2010 9:46AM (Unverified) said
This is old news: these numbers date from SDK 2.40 ( 2 years old iirc? )
System ram would not directly give better graphics (VRAM could). It could help on engine and gameplay memory usage.
System ram would not directly give better graphics (VRAM could). It could help on engine and gameplay memory usage.
Posted: Feb 24th 2010 10:12AM (Unverified) said
Well, I guess that leaves your comment out then huh? But, then again, looking at your comment history, I don't really see one intelligent comment You've made. You just seem like a bitter douche who should have stopped gaming a long time ago.
I only take advice who enjoy gaming as much as I do. Make a worth while comment, and you might be taken seriously.
I only take advice who enjoy gaming as much as I do. Make a worth while comment, and you might be taken seriously.
Posted: Feb 24th 2010 12:44PM (Unverified) said
this is cool. Are they gonna put that dead processor to work next?
Posted: Feb 24th 2010 3:03PM (Unverified) said
In typical bitter douche fashion, you're quick to call me a fanboy when nothing in my comments show favoritism toward any console.
And I tend not to eat crap, so no thanks.
And I tend not to eat crap, so no thanks.
Posted: Feb 24th 2010 3:13PM (Unverified) said
Oh, and by the way, there is no way i'm going to take some random guys word over someone that that actually develops games on the PS3. Develop and game or 2 on the PS3, or the 360 for that matter, and I might take your little comment seriously.
Posted: Feb 24th 2010 3:27PM JCDoe said
Am I the only one who wishes these firmware updates actually would bring the ps3 to functional parity with the 360? Y'know, like the ability to listen to mp3s while playing games, or to chat with people while playing?
Posted: Feb 24th 2010 10:43PM (Unverified) said
Will probably make installing Ubuntu more practical.
Posted: Feb 24th 2010 8:02PM (Unverified) said
lol ps3 cpu can only access 256 mb, xbox360's cpu can access 512 mb....polygons are loaded up into system memory not video memory.
xbox360 will always be able to push more polygons.
xbox360 will always be able to push more polygons.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 12:50PM Punk said
finally it might make using the playstation browser a little more usable. more tabs ;)
Posted: Mar 1st 2010 7:47AM (Unverified) said
i have something for you , feel the love…. real news./…..here wweee goooo
obv resistance 3 is comin, killzone 3 is comming… n
1…ssx – ps3 exclusive o dere…the best game in the world epic epic savage gameplay wiked game
2…ace combat 7 – ps3 exclusive – afetr xbox paying namco for 6 exclusive, and all the framework for xbox, 7 is completely re-done for ps3 bluray tech.
3…the mark or kri – check youtube for footage of the first
ps3 exclusive obv….. ahha keeps getting better
4… twisted metal 5. check youtube again, for number 4, or the ps2 vrsions, but the psone versions were the classics.
5…grantheft auto 5, ps3 exclusive, 2 or 3 weeks till unveiling
not long to go people
6. AGENT – need i say more>? wel, actually , i cant say more, as this is the most secretive ps3 exclusive ever. or infact any game, ever, there is nothing on this game, and i bet thats jus how rockstarr want it. those sik scottish basterds.. kill it every time, they cant fail.. people like siknes
7. motorstorm 3. ps3 exclusive…getting tired yet>?
8. modnation racers, june 1st release… yes….ps3 exclusi…
9. do you need a number 9>? afer all that..really..
ok
syphon filter 5, ps3 exclusive
naughty dogs immense uncharted 3 is a surefire fact
and to finish infamous 2,…….
okay one more ‘the last guardian’ and ico collosus double pack
that makes 12, one a month my babies,,,,start saving,,, ps3’s got you covered.
peace . …out…..follow twitter mrpurple101
obv resistance 3 is comin, killzone 3 is comming… n
1…ssx – ps3 exclusive o dere…the best game in the world epic epic savage gameplay wiked game
2…ace combat 7 – ps3 exclusive – afetr xbox paying namco for 6 exclusive, and all the framework for xbox, 7 is completely re-done for ps3 bluray tech.
3…the mark or kri – check youtube for footage of the first
ps3 exclusive obv….. ahha keeps getting better
4… twisted metal 5. check youtube again, for number 4, or the ps2 vrsions, but the psone versions were the classics.
5…grantheft auto 5, ps3 exclusive, 2 or 3 weeks till unveiling
not long to go people
6. AGENT – need i say more>? wel, actually , i cant say more, as this is the most secretive ps3 exclusive ever. or infact any game, ever, there is nothing on this game, and i bet thats jus how rockstarr want it. those sik scottish basterds.. kill it every time, they cant fail.. people like siknes
7. motorstorm 3. ps3 exclusive…getting tired yet>?
8. modnation racers, june 1st release… yes….ps3 exclusi…
9. do you need a number 9>? afer all that..really..
ok
syphon filter 5, ps3 exclusive
naughty dogs immense uncharted 3 is a surefire fact
and to finish infamous 2,…….
okay one more ‘the last guardian’ and ico collosus double pack
that makes 12, one a month my babies,,,,start saving,,, ps3’s got you covered.
peace . …out…..follow twitter mrpurple101
Posted: Mar 1st 2010 7:44AM (Unverified) said
i have something for you , feel the love…. real news./…..here wweee goooo
obv resistance 3 is comin, killzone 3 is comming… n
1…ssx – ps3 exclusive o dere…the best game in the world epic epic savage gameplay wiked game
2…ace combat 7 – ps3 exclusive – afetr xbox paying namco for 6 exclusive, and all the framework for xbox, 7 is completely re-done for ps3 bluray tech.
3…the mark or kri – check youtube for footage of the first
ps3 exclusive obv….. ahha keeps getting better
4… twisted metal 5. check youtube again, for number 4, or the ps2 vrsions, but the psone versions were the classics.
5…grantheft auto 5, ps3 exclusive, 2 or 3 weeks till unveiling
not long to go people
6. AGENT – need i say more>? wel, actually , i cant say more, as this is the most secretive ps3 exclusive ever. or infact any game, ever, there is nothing on this game, and i bet thats jus how rockstarr want it. those sik scottish basterds.. kill it every time, they cant fail.. people like siknes
7. motorstorm 3. ps3 exclusive…getting tired yet>?
8. modnation racers, june 1st release… yes….ps3 exclusi…
9. do you need a number 9>? afer all that..really..
ok
syphon filter 5, ps3 exclusive
naughty dogs immense uncharted 3 is a surefire fact
and to finish infamous 2,…….
okay one more ‘the last guardian’ and ico collosus double pack
that makes 12, one a month my babies,,,,start saving,,, ps3’s got you covered.
peace . …out…..follow twitter mrpurple101
obv resistance 3 is comin, killzone 3 is comming… n
1…ssx – ps3 exclusive o dere…the best game in the world epic epic savage gameplay wiked game
2…ace combat 7 – ps3 exclusive – afetr xbox paying namco for 6 exclusive, and all the framework for xbox, 7 is completely re-done for ps3 bluray tech.
3…the mark or kri – check youtube for footage of the first
ps3 exclusive obv….. ahha keeps getting better
4… twisted metal 5. check youtube again, for number 4, or the ps2 vrsions, but the psone versions were the classics.
5…grantheft auto 5, ps3 exclusive, 2 or 3 weeks till unveiling
not long to go people
6. AGENT – need i say more>? wel, actually , i cant say more, as this is the most secretive ps3 exclusive ever. or infact any game, ever, there is nothing on this game, and i bet thats jus how rockstarr want it. those sik scottish basterds.. kill it every time, they cant fail.. people like siknes
7. motorstorm 3. ps3 exclusive…getting tired yet>?
8. modnation racers, june 1st release… yes….ps3 exclusi…
9. do you need a number 9>? afer all that..really..
ok
syphon filter 5, ps3 exclusive
naughty dogs immense uncharted 3 is a surefire fact
and to finish infamous 2,…….
okay one more ‘the last guardian’ and ico collosus double pack
that makes 12, one a month my babies,,,,start saving,,, ps3’s got you covered.
peace . …out…..follow twitter mrpurple101
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