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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 7:57PM DBuckEye said

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"most third party Wii games just plain suck," says Pachter.
So how do you explain Zack and Wiki not selling, o mighty Pach-Attack?

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:01PM dishwasher said

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well he did say most..
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:03PM Typicalgamer said

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PWNED!!!
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:09PM Co said

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You act as if Zak and Wiki was donned to be the Wii's GTA 3 or something before it came out.

It's quite simply one of the most niche titles available. Just because it's deemed a great game by the people that loved it doesn't mean that equals milestone sales.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:15PM Mmmmz said

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"Most" does not equal "all"...
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:18PM Shadowbender said

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@ Sony Boy

FAIDE!!!
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:23PM Ridgecity said

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I'm glad he is the one saying it, since he's considered the Jesus Christ of gaming. This will only confirm what bloggers and consumers have been saying for years. Believe me I own a Wii.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:39PM andsoitgoes said

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Melty, you realize that Just Dance has sold an insane amount of copies, especially in the UK?

So yes, people are willing to pay for garbage, especially if the garbage equates to watching your friends get drunk and embarass themselves.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:02PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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DSi XL has done quite well in Japan (currently the best selling DS model for quite some time), so I'd say it's too easy to count it out in America. Granted, success in one country won't necessarily translate to success in another.

I, personally, don't care about the DSi XL. My DSi is fine just the way it is.

But if they release a navy blue DSi XL... I will be compelled to get one.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:51PM Deschain said

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I'm getting my first DS as a DSi XL.

Mainly for Pokemon heart gold. The Nostalgia (with an update) is too good to pass up for me.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:02PM Shadowbender said

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That pic above makes me believe Pachter has psychic, mind-bending powers.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:05PM GewurztraminerX said

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or that he's drunk
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:16PM Shadowbender said

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I see some bottles in the background...Further investigation is needed.

That, or the man behind him is a ghost.
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Posted: Feb 26th 2010 8:49AM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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I think the real story here is the fact that no one's pointing out the Ghost of Liberace cavorting behind him.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:07PM (Unverified) said

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What/who gives Pachter so much credibility? tbh, I know people who post on internet message boards who do the same thing he does, and are more right more often.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:08PM ch3burashka said

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"Y'all remember what I said about the games industry, you know, 'cause it's my job to predict stuff? Just wanted to let y'all know I'm changing my mind."

"Don't worry; this time, it's for real."

tl;dr Why is he an analyst if he can change his mind just like that?

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:16PM Shadowbender said

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He's human. It happens.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:26PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said

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I wonder what would happen if I told my boss "I'm human, it happens"...
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Posted: Feb 26th 2010 12:42AM Shagittarius said

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"I wonder what would happen if I told my boss "I'm human, it happens"..."

Then he'd say, "One more time and your fired, now get to work, fries are up."
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:08PM Gaddes said

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I still don't understand why he's held in such high regard... a lot of his "analyses" are either "no duh"s or end up being off anyway. Anyone here could do his "job" just as well.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:17PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said

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I'm sure the XL will sell but it won't push lots of units out the gate.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:19PM Ridgecity said

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He predicted less than $50 and now says it's more than $50?? wow, doesn't sound like much of an expert to me...

I do wish he stood by his predictions, not change them a year later. His credibility has no validity if he acts like that. He gets paid to say what will happen not flip a coin.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:19PM MLC said

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Natal will be $50 my ass. MS is horrible in pricing accessories. I think Natal will be no less then $70.

The PS Eye and 1 "Arc" controller will be around $60. Each PS "Arc" controller could be around $30-$40.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 10:25PM CaptainProtonX said

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So let it be written...
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 10:31PM johnperkins21 said

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They are indeed terrible at pricing accessories. But it doesn't much matter, as I wouldn't buy Natal if it were fifty cents, let alone fifty dollars.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:27PM GuitarHero666 said

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I remember this was the guy that said that Borderlands was "on the death row" before it was released.

Basically, I don't trust him.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:31PM Nintendo Tim said

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An analyst who went back on his initial assumption that was made too early, and "updated" it because there's more evidence to believe otherwise.

I know Mike is one of the more "famous" analysts (only because he's the more sane one out there with a level head on his shoulders), but most people that frequent this site - or video games as a whole - can "predict" the same crap he's making a living off of.

Honestly, who here thinks the DSi XL is going to sell well outside of Japan?

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:48PM (Unverified) said

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I don't know how it could sell well in the US.. You prob. would end up looking just as douchey with the XL as with an iPad.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:38PM (Unverified) said

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Didn't he say Wii HD would come out last year? Yeah I'm still waiting for that

Posted: Feb 26th 2010 9:57AM robotoid said

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He said the Wii HD will be announced this year.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:47PM (Unverified) said

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If MS is still charging $100 bux for hard drives that should be half the price, I would also doubt they'd charge less than 50 for what is marketed as a revolutionary add-on. I personally don't see myself getting Natal at all right now. I wasn't convinced by Milo so they better have a killer app for there as-yet unproven tech. The Arc, on the other hand, is essentially a wiimote and I have played the Wii so I know there is potential there. But I don't think I'd pay more than $50 for either one when there are so many games coming out this year that work with the controllers I ALREADY HAVE.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:11PM Puertoricarious said

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"Furthermore, Pachter says that the higher that Microsoft and Sony price their motion controls, the less likely a consumer is to buy the competing product. In other words, if you spend $100 on Natal, you probably won't be too keen to plunk down another $100 for Sony's motion controller (and vice versa)."

for being an industry analyst, pachter doesn't seem to understand basic economics. you LOWER your price to keep customers buying your product and to stay competitive, not raise it. raising your prices to keep your customers from buying another product IS ONLY GOING TO MAKE THEM BUY THE OTHER PRODUCT.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:16PM (Unverified) said

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He's overlooking one important detail about the DSi XL: It has the letters "DS" in it. Therefore it will sell out the ass

Posted: Feb 26th 2010 9:18AM Foetoid said

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"Dreamcast" also has the letters DS in it. Didn't sell that well.....
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:18PM Goaliegeek said

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So a giant DS wont sell, but a giant iPod touch will?

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:20PM MGTrey said

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"In other words, if you spend $100 on Natal, you probably won't be too keen to plunk down another $100 for Sony's motion controller (and vice versa)."

I won't be too keen on spending 100$ dollars on either by themselves, nevermind a bill for each.

These motion control systems are supposed to be bringing in new customers, anyways. Casuals who are just fine with their Wii won't want to buy an expensive piece of equipment before they even factor in the cost of the console and games themselves.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:57PM KaBob799 said

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Why in the world is he comparing the XL with the Lite? The XL is competing with the DSi for sales, not the Lite.

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 11:19PM HTCEVO said

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Probably because it looks more like a lite than a dsi.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 10:12PM krizoitz said

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@Ridgecity

If only Microsoft would release it for EXACTLY $50 just to make him be wrong twice :)

Posted: Feb 25th 2010 11:09PM benheck said

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There is no way in heaven or hell the Natal will only cost $50.

Hell, we might be lucky if it's "only" $99.

Course for many of us who think motion gaming is just a stupid waste of time, Natal will set us back $0! Great bargain, that.

Posted: Feb 26th 2010 12:25AM Tatsunoku vs Fapcom said

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It will probably be the price of a Wii. Speaking of that, isn't Natal a Wii duct taped to a webcam?
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 11:31PM (Unverified) said

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Usually the exact opposite happens with his predictions. So, if I read this right. Natal will be $49.99 and the DSi XL will be the bigger seller than sliced bread.

Posted: Feb 26th 2010 9:31PM yugo said

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$ !

Posted: Feb 26th 2010 1:42AM ructus said

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Was he like, "Most 3rd party Nintendo games suck AHAHAHAHA ..." cos thats how it looks from that pic.

Posted: Feb 26th 2010 2:22AM SnatchTease said

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Prachter couldn't look up and predict rain.

Posted: Feb 26th 2010 2:39AM (Unverified) said

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sounds like he gets bummed off microsoft and sony because most devs think it wont do that well at retail including ubisoft and boss of square enix and i dont think it will do well either natal will be the biggest fail having to imagine everything in thin air will put most people off or it could fool everyone at first then it will spread that its a joke arc is basically a wiimote so i think lots of games will work well with arc in fact it might sell about 8 million in its first year capcom have lots of cross platform games with this arc and the wiimote they are using wii 's MT FRAMEWORK game engine to make the games in question ground up then porting them to ps3 ive heard this is to save on dev costs by 33%

Posted: Feb 26th 2010 2:56AM (Unverified) said

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i bet the next cross platform game by CAPCOM is ps3/wii

Posted: Feb 26th 2010 11:16AM ViolentSquirrel said

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Yeah, for sure. I do not want to spend time wiggling my arms in front of my TV, pretending to grasp virtual objects.

This is idea sounds ridiculous to me and I won't buy that junk even if it's cheap.

Posted: Feb 26th 2010 8:44AM JRMG said

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Wait. Doesn't the PS3 motion controller need the playstation eye to work? And doesn't the playstation eye already cost like $35 retail? 35 + 50 is already 85 bucks--minimum! Then, if you consider that Natal is even more impressive/complex technology than what Sony is offering, Selling Natatl for anything less than $85-100 is near impossible...unless they want to sell it at a loss (Or sell the technology in increments like Nintendo and their motion plus).

Wow! I've already come up with the same conclusion as Pachter--and it took me 2 minutes.

And about the DSi XL:
Some are saying it won't sell very well, but like the phenomenon that was "Brain Age" I'm willing to give grandma and grandpa the benefit of the doubt. Also, consider that this is America--where only the biggest and fattest are revered. If American consumers are still thinking of buying a DS, then it's a given they'll go for the XL: it's the "value size"!

Posted: Feb 26th 2010 9:07AM Tuxy79 said

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Excuse me?

I thought the whole point of removing the on-board processor was to reduce cost. Anything more than 50 bucks and the last whisp of interest I had left in the peripheral will dissapear.

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