U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown recently recorded a podcast -- yes, a podcast (mp3) -- which aired right before the kickoff ceremonies for the Global Investment Conference held in London on Monday. During the podcast, Brown commended the efforts of the U.K.'s game developers and publishers, stating, "we're leading the way in creative industries, by far the biggest producer of computer games in Europe."
TIGA, the U.K. game industry trade organization, is hoping Brown's address is a sign of support for the game developer tax relief plan the group has been trying to push through parliament for more than two years now. Had they listened to Brown's other podcast, "The Uber1337 Video Game Talk Show," they would have heard a much stronger sentiment much earlier.
[Via Edge Online]
Reader Comments (35)
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 3:27AM Katana Master said
*walks away quietly*
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 3:58AM Namminamm said
isin't he just going to call us terrorist's again?
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 6:31PM MonkeyPunch said
He never "called" the Icelandic terrorists.
He used "anti-terrorist legislation laws" to seize back money/assets from a dying Icelandic bank who would have otherwise let the money evaporate.
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He used "anti-terrorist legislation laws" to seize back money/assets from a dying Icelandic bank who would have otherwise let the money evaporate.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 4:19AM Pure Black World Tendency said
I didn't know that the prime minister is a ventriloquist.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 4:56AM nighttime said
Strategically placed microphone to the EYE.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 5:10AM Misterlee said
Yet another case of two-faced politicians. They are so quick to congratulate the industry when there's money and PR involved, but how many seconds later will it be before someone's trying to bash the game industry and ignore the fact that, especially in England, all the talent is going overseas where the industry is well supported.
England isn't leading the way by a long shot, sadly and there won't be much to brag about when everyone is living in Canada where they give massive tax incentives to game companies.
England isn't leading the way by a long shot, sadly and there won't be much to brag about when everyone is living in Canada where they give massive tax incentives to game companies.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 5:46AM GiantBombNinja said
Can we stop calling the UK England. He is focusing on the industry in the U.K So that is Rocksteady in Highgate North London to Rockstar North in Edinburgh. From Lionhead in Guildford, Surrey, to Ruffian Games and Realtime Worlds in Dundee.
I mean I'm a bit of a Unionist so let's please remember we are all British and it is the British games industry that the prime minister is talking about. Not the English or Scottish or Welsh of Northern Irish games industry.
I do think that more support should be given to the industry by the government however ad more liberal cultures that give more to these types of industries do well because of it and Britian could become a hive of gaming excellence.
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I mean I'm a bit of a Unionist so let's please remember we are all British and it is the British games industry that the prime minister is talking about. Not the English or Scottish or Welsh of Northern Irish games industry.
I do think that more support should be given to the industry by the government however ad more liberal cultures that give more to these types of industries do well because of it and Britian could become a hive of gaming excellence.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 6:11AM GiantBombNinja said
@Den-69 What are you talking about 3 of the places are in Scotland and two are in England, that's not most, or do you not know your geography. My point is that people differentiating England and the UK as different people are the same as the people who have got SNP into power in Scotland and who are on the verge of breaking up our great sovereign state.
I'm also saying that depite the great population differences between the countries who make up the UK there is still a great amount of talent in the smaller countries and that implying that only England matters when the Prime Minister is talking about the U.K games industry show alot of ignorance considering Grand Theft Auto is probably one of our best selling gaming products and it is made by Rockstar North in Edinburgh, Scotland.
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I'm also saying that depite the great population differences between the countries who make up the UK there is still a great amount of talent in the smaller countries and that implying that only England matters when the Prime Minister is talking about the U.K games industry show alot of ignorance considering Grand Theft Auto is probably one of our best selling gaming products and it is made by Rockstar North in Edinburgh, Scotland.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 6:23AM GiantBombNinja said
Yeah apparently lol, either that or he's just American or something.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 11:48AM Bungieware said
You left out a lot of other English developers, especially Media Molecule, Criterion, Codemasters, all based in Guildford... as well as Sony Cambridge, Rare, Bizarre Creations, Creative Assembly, Crytek UK (formerly Free Radical Design), Rockstar (Leeds, etc..) and these are only the main players I've mention
Hmmm... that 3 to 2 isn't looking so accurate now is it? And besides, name me one major Welsh or N.I. studio.... point made.
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Hmmm... that 3 to 2 isn't looking so accurate now is it? And besides, name me one major Welsh or N.I. studio.... point made.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 6:54PM killerjuice said
Well, if we want to list left out publishers...
add Jagex to that list
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add Jagex to that list
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 6:47AM skyzbig said
He won't be PM for long.
Thank God.
Thank God.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:37AM CloudStrife said
Rather him than Cameron.
...Screw it, i'm gonna vote Lib Dem!
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...Screw it, i'm gonna vote Lib Dem!
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 5:31PM Ninjanun said
Thank God! someone else who thinks like me, hell im fed up enough of the political system; even the monster raving loonies and cannabis alliance are looking like legitimate options at this stage, at least the latters expenses would be easy to calculate; weed and walkers.
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Posted: Feb 25th 2010 7:02AM CynicalStrike said
I wonder if Gordon Brown's favourite game is Bully...
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:05AM Ritchie Blackmore said
Politicians are against games for being violent etc. once there's the posibility of making money from it they jump on the bandwaggon.
At least it's a first step, regardless. So Well done Mr. Brown!
At least it's a first step, regardless. So Well done Mr. Brown!
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 8:49AM SkuzBukit said
As far as Gordon Brown is concerned....put money where your mouth is, the gaming industry can be a big part of the future economic success of Britain & we do need to work to retain talent, if that means taking the same kinds of steps as Canada has we should compete on the same level.
Videogames can & do have an effect on it's players, the younger they are the larger the effect they can have. I'm not saying violent videogames should be banned at all, but we should not simply discount the effects out of hand, Politicians prey on the fears & insecurities of the voting public, a lot of whom are parents so in political terms it's seen as a way to gain votes to appeal to those worries, which is a mistake.
Violent videogames, particularly ones where you are in the situation of needing to kill opponents in order to progress have been studied by psychologists & the Armed forces in developed countries & there are notable impacts, such as decreasing the "freeze" response, & increasing hand to eye co-ordination along with faster judmental reactions. Military training in the future may well incorporate a certain amount of "virtual" training to help members of the armed forces to be able to respknd better, & it will in all likeliehood be directly responsible for saving lives in actual operations. In studies of children the most notable change in the responses of those that played violent games was a lessening in "co-operative" actions, the kids were less likely to be surprised which may be seen as good or bad, but they were less likely to intervene in a situation in which their actions would be helpful.
Conclusions cannot be drawn yet, not large enough studies have been carried out & not for long enough periods of time to formulate a medical opinion, but games do have effects on people & the effects are larger on children, nothing is better than good parenting but understanding why these changes occur is as important to science & medicine as it is to the gaming community, nobody yet understands the long term impact, & I suspect that once it is understood it will be far more complex an impact that will not be easy to categorise in simple good & bad terms, humans are individuals & each one will be impacted in subtlely different ways though there will emerge "trends" in impact.
Videogames can & do have an effect on it's players, the younger they are the larger the effect they can have. I'm not saying violent videogames should be banned at all, but we should not simply discount the effects out of hand, Politicians prey on the fears & insecurities of the voting public, a lot of whom are parents so in political terms it's seen as a way to gain votes to appeal to those worries, which is a mistake.
Violent videogames, particularly ones where you are in the situation of needing to kill opponents in order to progress have been studied by psychologists & the Armed forces in developed countries & there are notable impacts, such as decreasing the "freeze" response, & increasing hand to eye co-ordination along with faster judmental reactions. Military training in the future may well incorporate a certain amount of "virtual" training to help members of the armed forces to be able to respknd better, & it will in all likeliehood be directly responsible for saving lives in actual operations. In studies of children the most notable change in the responses of those that played violent games was a lessening in "co-operative" actions, the kids were less likely to be surprised which may be seen as good or bad, but they were less likely to intervene in a situation in which their actions would be helpful.
Conclusions cannot be drawn yet, not large enough studies have been carried out & not for long enough periods of time to formulate a medical opinion, but games do have effects on people & the effects are larger on children, nothing is better than good parenting but understanding why these changes occur is as important to science & medicine as it is to the gaming community, nobody yet understands the long term impact, & I suspect that once it is understood it will be far more complex an impact that will not be easy to categorise in simple good & bad terms, humans are individuals & each one will be impacted in subtlely different ways though there will emerge "trends" in impact.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:17AM Nook said
Good stuff. Another area that will be related will be the long term impact of man-made electrical and magnetic field exposure. Every function in our bodies operates at the smallest level by electricity, and we're planing on installing Wi-Max across NA.......let alone all the dirty electricity and rampant RF fields we're living inside of already.
Breath easy though - all of this will affect bottom lines, so we won't address any of it and we'll continue to lose our minds and decline into madness further. Shorter attention spans, decreased intelligence..
From where I stand we have a serious addiction to technology and we're all in denial and woefully uneducated about the long term impacts of any of this stuff.
Of course one could always say that 'they wouldn't sell it if it wasn't safe', that keeps the head in the sand.
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Breath easy though - all of this will affect bottom lines, so we won't address any of it and we'll continue to lose our minds and decline into madness further. Shorter attention spans, decreased intelligence..
From where I stand we have a serious addiction to technology and we're all in denial and woefully uneducated about the long term impacts of any of this stuff.
Of course one could always say that 'they wouldn't sell it if it wasn't safe', that keeps the head in the sand.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:03AM Glassneedles said
For the Icelandic terrorism thing, when the Icelandic banking industry went under the UK government paniced as alot of UK citizens and councils(UK local government) had money in high interest Icelandic bank accounts. In their infinite wisdom Labour decided the best way to guarantee that they would get their money back was to freeze all UK icelandic accounts under terrorism laws.... Not only was Iceland justifiably pissed at this but it was abuse of anti-terrorism laws that were brought under a promise that they would not be used for anything but terrorism. On my phone atm so can't link you to an article but all this occured end of 2008 and the beginning of 2009
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 9:29AM Nook said
This is called the totalitarian tip-toe. Laws and policies are introduced in the name of security, and oh how the politicians are hailed as being protectors and oh how are we the public being proactive against those pesky terrorists.
Then they do exactly what they said they wouldn't. They abuse and misues the laws and policies created. It happens times after time, until finally one day - you realize that that all control has been given to the machine. Then it's too late.
and on Mr. Brown; he has openly advocated for internet restrictions to reduce information sharing across the globe. He has openly called for time after time the implemntation of the new world order, which is in fact - the new world financial order - with a framework of global government. Games promote collectivism now, collectivism is related to socialist ideologies, socialist ideologies help lay a blueprint for mass control - which is in these leaders minds - what is needed...and the end justifies the means to achieve this. It is a slow process of erosion.
Guess what? It's all coming to pass.
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Then they do exactly what they said they wouldn't. They abuse and misues the laws and policies created. It happens times after time, until finally one day - you realize that that all control has been given to the machine. Then it's too late.
and on Mr. Brown; he has openly advocated for internet restrictions to reduce information sharing across the globe. He has openly called for time after time the implemntation of the new world order, which is in fact - the new world financial order - with a framework of global government. Games promote collectivism now, collectivism is related to socialist ideologies, socialist ideologies help lay a blueprint for mass control - which is in these leaders minds - what is needed...and the end justifies the means to achieve this. It is a slow process of erosion.
Guess what? It's all coming to pass.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 10:26AM KungFuChaosNinja said
This man is a nutty. He's always talking about a New World Order/a single global government in his speeches. And he's completely ****** the UK's economy. You think ours is bad? This is where we're headed. Get those pokes out of office for god almighty.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 11:32AM (Unverified) said
I've been away from England the past two years of Gordon Brown as PM, and as bad as he is, it's better than being run by Cameron, and a lot better than the lib dems, who really just toy with the idea of politics. The Labour party really need to get there act together though. It sounds like leaders are really seeing the future of gaming, this is good for all aspiring and current game developers, I get to meet Harry Mack today (thought I'd brag half way through). The Canadian government have so many programs for game developers, Ontario is thriving off of it.
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 1:05PM soniccar said
Did anybody else first read his name as Golden Brown?
Posted: Feb 25th 2010 2:58PM SnatchTease said
I condemn his fat stupid lying whore mouth.
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