Gamasutra got a chance to speak with the executive VP and GM of Disney Interactive Studios, Graham Hopper, who says that Disney is swinging for the stands on their future game releases. The games division is learning from "pure" gaming studios and their success, and while Hopper admits that the company hasn't always treated their properties correctly on the gaming side, starting with Disney's Epic Mickey, it wants to "give their projects the time and appropriate resources to be successful." In other words, let them stand on their own as games, rather than squeeze them up against a movie's release date.
And Hopper hopes for quite the payoff, too -- while third-party titles on the Wii have been hit or miss (mostly miss), Hopper expects Epic Mickey's success to go "to Nintendo levels." He does say that they don't want to turn Mickey into Mario by "simply using him as an icon or an avatar in a game," but Disney's goal in the future will be to make sure that each of their properties' appearances are worth it. Hopper says if they port a film to five different gaming platforms, customers should expect "not the same story five times over, but five different stories, each uniquely suited for the platform they're on." A good plan to have, but much easier said than done.
Reader Comments (58)
Posted: Feb 27th 2010 12:42AM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
I doubt it. Sadly when most kids think of Disney nowadays they think of Jonas Brothers and Miley Cyrus.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 2:15AM killdash9 said
Sonos, your examples are live-action films. Disney has made lots of those for decades, the first to come to mind being the Herbie films. I assumed we were talking about Disney's live-action television properties. As far as I'm aware, Disney only started churning out teen idols through their TV division in the last 2 decades. If you would like to recommend a resource which disputes this, please do; a Wikipedia search for "Disney live-action" only got me movies.
As for my being really, really young, I only wish that were true. Unless you are old enough to remember (not simply exist at the time of, but really remember) the first space shuttle launch, you're not as old as I.
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As for my being really, really young, I only wish that were true. Unless you are old enough to remember (not simply exist at the time of, but really remember) the first space shuttle launch, you're not as old as I.
Posted: Feb 27th 2010 2:45AM drewciferpike said
...aaaaaaand Killdash nails a big F'n period to the end of THAT convo... hahaha...
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 9:44AM Mmmmz said
Exactly.
Disney still has it's own Mickey show, I don't know what it's called. But it's 3D for crying out loud and incredibly condescending. I don't understand why they'd want to revive an IP that they basically killed, gutted and fed to Miley and gang.
Disney tried to be more like Nickelodeon and failed IMO. Generally, adults have fond memories of cartoons, not live-action shows. MOST live shows just make people wonder why the hell they watched them and thought it was good. Cartoons generally live in infamy. Almost every cartoon killdash mentioned brought warmth to me. When I think of Harriet the Spy, Alex whatever, etc. (Nick) I don't care. However, if I think of Nick cartoons like Roccos Modern Life and even early Rugrats, I'm tempted to care more.
They're raising an entire generation to forget about them, really, and it will bite them in the ass.
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Disney still has it's own Mickey show, I don't know what it's called. But it's 3D for crying out loud and incredibly condescending. I don't understand why they'd want to revive an IP that they basically killed, gutted and fed to Miley and gang.
Disney tried to be more like Nickelodeon and failed IMO. Generally, adults have fond memories of cartoons, not live-action shows. MOST live shows just make people wonder why the hell they watched them and thought it was good. Cartoons generally live in infamy. Almost every cartoon killdash mentioned brought warmth to me. When I think of Harriet the Spy, Alex whatever, etc. (Nick) I don't care. However, if I think of Nick cartoons like Roccos Modern Life and even early Rugrats, I'm tempted to care more.
They're raising an entire generation to forget about them, really, and it will bite them in the ass.
Posted: Feb 27th 2010 11:11AM Wiizer said
"Gummi Bears, Duck Tales, Rescue Rangers, Tale Spin, and Darkwing Duck."
OMG YES!!!!!!!! I loved each and erveryone of those shows sooo much! I went back to watch Tale Spin and it's written a lot like a sitcom! I was surprised how some cartoons back then weren't dumbed down for kids.
Posted: Feb 27th 2010 4:27PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said
"damn, children's entertainment used to be good."
Some people will argue that you liked what you did when you were a kid only because you were a kid. Easily impressionable and everything was cool to you. And if you still think something is still good, it's likely due to nostalgia glasses.
For a related story... I put the following to the test: Freakazoid! One of my favorite cartoons when I was younger, I bought the first DVD set as soon as it was available... and I still seriously found it funny. But, was it just because of nostalgia, or because it was genuinely funny? One time, I had to watch my younger cousin (he was 10 or 11 at the time) and I showed him the DVDs, and he loved the show. I'd say that if something is still entertaining for more than one generation, it's quality stuff.
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Some people will argue that you liked what you did when you were a kid only because you were a kid. Easily impressionable and everything was cool to you. And if you still think something is still good, it's likely due to nostalgia glasses.
For a related story... I put the following to the test: Freakazoid! One of my favorite cartoons when I was younger, I bought the first DVD set as soon as it was available... and I still seriously found it funny. But, was it just because of nostalgia, or because it was genuinely funny? One time, I had to watch my younger cousin (he was 10 or 11 at the time) and I showed him the DVDs, and he loved the show. I'd say that if something is still entertaining for more than one generation, it's quality stuff.
Posted: Feb 27th 2010 12:47AM LuTon James said
Oh man, if they think they can take this game to 1st party nintendo game levels, they've got a long way to go. Those last screen shots were rather awful.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 1:11AM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
They were worse than awful. The screens looked like florescent puke ... ughhh.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 4:09AM EccentricServbot said
Warren Spector has already said that the last set of screenshots released are still from an earlier build of the game where lighting effects and such haven't been implemented yet.
So, with seven more months of development ahead, there's still time for the game's visuals to take a huge leap forward.
Also, from what I've read those shots were from one of the starting areas of the game when things are more childish and cartoony - according to Spector, the game's later levels will get FAR more twisted and strange (closer to the concept art).
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So, with seven more months of development ahead, there's still time for the game's visuals to take a huge leap forward.
Also, from what I've read those shots were from one of the starting areas of the game when things are more childish and cartoony - according to Spector, the game's later levels will get FAR more twisted and strange (closer to the concept art).
Posted: Feb 27th 2010 12:54AM letherclad said
take it to 'nintendo levels' does that mean they are going to keep re-releasing it over and over again over the next several decades?
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 1:46AM Dr Perry Ulysses Cox said
Right, because no other gaming company does that. . .
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 11:12AM ACLerok212 said
Capitalize on something a lot of people like that's really good and makes a lot of money? The nerve of some of these companies...
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 1:22PM (Unverified) said
Yes, because people who are not biased haters like you guys also think of shovelware instead of Mario, Metroid and Zelda when they think Nintendo.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 1:13AM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
Any Mickey game for the NES, SNES, or Genesis was good.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 1:17AM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
Actually, pretty much every Disney game was good back then.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 1:48AM sonicspike41 said
I agree with Traceur, and to prove he's right I submit what I like to call "Evidence A":
http://www.fabbl.de/Bilder/Nintendo/SNES-Goof-Troop.jpg
Hell, even that childish Mickey game that had you solving silly puzzles just to make it to the sky to solve a sliding puzzle wasn't so bad. I never could beat the sliding puzzle though. Always had my dad beat it for me, haha.
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http://www.fabbl.de/Bilder/Nintendo/SNES-Goof-Troop.jpg
Hell, even that childish Mickey game that had you solving silly puzzles just to make it to the sky to solve a sliding puzzle wasn't so bad. I never could beat the sliding puzzle though. Always had my dad beat it for me, haha.
Posted: Feb 27th 2010 12:02PM hortonamos said
Magical Quest on the SNES was great. Darkwing Duck for the NES was fantastic too, if you were/are am 8-bit Mega Man fan.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 1:16AM Puertoricarious said
i swear, five attempts at reading that headline and i still see this:
Disney wants to take Nintendo Mickey to 'Epic levels' on the Wii
ah, dyslexia.
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Disney wants to take Nintendo Mickey to 'Epic levels' on the Wii
ah, dyslexia.
Posted: Feb 27th 2010 12:39PM Solar Jetman said
That's cool. It actually makes more sense.
"I give Mass Effect 2 a NINTENDO out of five."
"Dude, these speakers go up to NINTENDO. S'dope!"
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"I give Mass Effect 2 a NINTENDO out of five."
"Dude, these speakers go up to NINTENDO. S'dope!"
Posted: Feb 27th 2010 1:41AM sonicspike41 said
Nintendo levels: Selling 60 million copies of a game that probably didn't cost much to make in the first place. Hell, they've almost sold more copies of Wii Sports than the number of Wiis sold! Even at their worst, Nintendo games still sell at least 5-8m in their first year.
I really don't see how they can expect to sell that many copies and have the game be successful on that type of level.
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I really don't see how they can expect to sell that many copies and have the game be successful on that type of level.
Posted: Feb 27th 2010 2:58AM AntiVillian said
every wii console comes with a copy of wii sports...
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 3:28AM HighFiveJesus said
not every copy world wide comes with the wii, some wiis go naked.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 6:05AM sonicspike41 said
So you're saying that the packed in copies are being counted along with the rest? Well that would greatly inflate the numbers.
Still though, even the non-packed in Nintendo games sell by the boatload. You'd think they invented audio/visual crack.
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Still though, even the non-packed in Nintendo games sell by the boatload. You'd think they invented audio/visual crack.
Posted: Feb 27th 2010 9:50PM (Unverified) said
Are you trying to tell me that Super Mario Galaxy isn't audio/visual crack?
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 5:53AM BurntMeatloaf said
That screenshot looks more Yakko Warner than Mickey Mouse.
That's more like... Anti-Mickey.
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That's more like... Anti-Mickey.
Posted: Feb 27th 2010 8:38AM blahblah55 said
...well, you're right on one thing he is the "Anti-Mickey" for this game. Oswald the Rabbit is the villain of this game.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 8:00AM BrokenTriforce said
Nintendo doesn't need to market their games. People just magically know when Nintendo games get released.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 8:50AM ructus said
Looking at the effort Disney is putting into this game, the marketing will be substantial too. And if this game becomes big, there will be even more Wii console sales, if MS/Sony didn't have any motion controllers, Disney would turn out like an exclusive developer for the Wii, like a free Bungie.
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Posted: Feb 27th 2010 9:13AM (Unverified) said
I really hope that Epic Mickey will make good sales (up to the Kingdom hearts series?), though I don't see it making sales as high as New Super Mario Bros for example (no third-party companies ever did!)
Burnt Meatloaf => Nice Don Karnage avatar ! :) You should check my Talespin site : http://www.animationsource.org/talespin/en/chars/Don_Karnage/5539.html
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Burnt Meatloaf => Nice Don Karnage avatar ! :) You should check my Talespin site : http://www.animationsource.org/talespin/en/chars/Don_Karnage/5539.html
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