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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:35PM Danthaman said

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WTF Activision. I don't feel bad about selling MW2 anymore.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:56PM baby sea tuna said

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Me neither. I'm sure I can find somewhere else for a little kid to call me a f*gg*t-ass ni**er anyway.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:36PM big 3y3 said

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So basically everyone is all up in arms over nothing? Yup sounds like just another day on the internet.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:36PM Dr Blight said

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That's bullsh1t. Game makes you a billion dollars, you better pay out some damn royalties. I'm pretty sure they broke any 'revenue milestone' Kotick could have dreamed up.

And Kotaku is reporting that Kodick is speaking to the remnants of Infinity Ward at 1PM Pacific time. Bet that'll go well (read: employee walkout)
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:37PM Dr Blight said

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And Pachter is incorrect. Those two still retain partial rights to the Call of Duty name.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:37PM Dr Blight said

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*mountain time

Means he's bawling them out now.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:42PM Ericloewe said

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This is surely not the last we've heard of this. This WILL get ugly.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:48PM copa said

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Damn, Bradwart, you're back to 100 posts a day already?

There are some excellent internet resources available if you're looking for full-time employment.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:38PM (Unverified) said

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Excellent explanation by Pachter and Divnich. It's too bad that what would be an internal HR matter at any other company gets blown up across the internet just because these guys happen to make games.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:56PM arnavdesai said

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Not necessarily true. This is a big deal
a) These guys were the top most guys at IW, not some interns. Their input obviously made the MW brand that it is.
b) Their departures were because of "insubordination" a term which means that all is not well between the management at Activision and their studios.
c) Games like the other entertainment industries is highly dependent on good talent creatively and technically. It is not like large corporations like Walmart or Kraft where a suitable substitute can be just put in and all will be well.
d) Its a well known fact that Kotick is a douche and I hope his vision of a sequel only nonsense comes to an end soon.

Ok the last point was very personal but I still believe this story is important and could well affect the MW brand.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:39PM big 3y3 said

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@ Dr. Blight

Did you even read the post? All those guys just said that it's not surprising at all that they havent been paid YET because royalty payments work just like bonuses; ie you don't get them till the year ends....

I hate activision as much as the next guy but stop the blind activision bashing and actually READ.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:40PM Dr Blight said

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A: You don't know this is the case here. Since Pachter was already incorrect regarding the status of the CoD IP, I'm inclined to doubt the rest of his statement.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:45PM (Unverified) said

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Blight, he's not wrong about the status of IW's ownership, nor is he wrong about bonus payouts. I'm not at all surprised that Activision isn't paying bonuses yet for MW2 no matter how many copies it sold. Also, would you pay out bonuses if there was a chance that the people you were going to pay them to violated the terms of your agreement? Get a grip.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:46PM Dr Perry Ulysses Cox said

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Well to counter, Dr. Blight, you don't know that this isn't the case here.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:49PM Dr Blight said

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IW is owned by Activision, yes, but the actual IP is partially retained by the two founders, who were reportedly interested in leaving the company.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:40PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, they were told to leave because they breached their contract, they didn't resign over creative differences. Let's not make them out to be heroes just because this happened at Activision.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:49PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said

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I don't think we can make any kind of judgement unless we know what the breach of contract was about.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:55PM (Unverified) said

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I just got some interesting news from a game developer friend. Security from Activision has invaded IW and is standing around bouncer style at exits, claiming to be investigating 'insubordination'.

Sources:
http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/702911/TheFeed.html?utm_source=g4tv&utm_medium=twitterblog&utm_campaign=so-0907-twitterthefeed-702911&cmpid=so-0907-twitterthefeed-702911

http://www.destructoid.com/infinity-ward-invaded-by-activision-security-update--165521.phtml

This is going to give Activision a whole lot of trouble... or as he says, "heaps of shit-ass trouble." The developers community is vindictive, and Activision is NOT making friends doing this. A lot of their developers will start going and knocking on other doors, like has happened in the past with EA... and EA had to close studios. Thing is, Activision is notorious for muscling people out, so it was kind of expected that something was going to be off, but this is way more than anyone imagined.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:56PM (Unverified) said

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And by 'he', I meant my friend.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:57PM copa said

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Thanks, but that is pretty old news.

I just want to know if Kotick had all his security goons dress up in Ghillie suits when they bum-rushed the building.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 4:00PM chrisredfield31 said

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I'm hearing insubordination and they probably freaked out over unpaid bonuses like mentioned above, wouldn't listen to anybody concerning their contract and decide to act out in anger and they got fired.

So based on the original insubordination claim, why are they heroes again? Why should Activision be the bad guys in all of this if that's the case? We reward bad behavior now wtf?
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 3:58PM (Unverified) said

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"Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it"

Activision should know why IW was created in the first place. I liked it better when developers and publishers were seperate. And when publishers actually had to work to get deals with the developers. Now all they do is gain/buy the IP, whore the franchise, and get other devs to half-ass their games.

Seperate the developers from the publishers and we won't have these problems. Bobby Kottick didn't do anything to deserve a single penny from any of the franchises they own.

/rant
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 4:01PM Dr Blight said

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It's even more ironic when you consider that Activision was created by disgruntled Atari devs who were unhappy with the corporate mindset.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 4:06PM s ls said

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I love what Tim Schafer said on his twitter, the man speaks the truth.

"Getting mad at Activision for this kind of thing is like getting mad at an ape for throwing feces. It's just how the beast communicates."

http://twitter.com/TimOfLegend/status/9865403393
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 4:06PM cylet said

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i challenge activision in MW2
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 4:08PM (Unverified) said

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Looks like Activision PR is at work on these comments! There is one too many Activision apologists posting.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 4:15PM (Unverified) said

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I don't think anyone's acting as Activision's rumpswab here. As I said before, these two didn't resign over creative differences, they were fired for cause...well as it stands right now, we could all be wrong once this goes to court.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 4:27PM Wickerman22 said

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"Additionally, it is common to see royalty agreements based upon factors such as hitting release date, review scores (a.k.a. 'Metacritic Clauses'),..."

Yeah, maybe one of those was to follow Treyarch's lead and announce DLC in Feb (like Treyarch did) and release it in March (like Treyarch did).
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 4:34PM (Unverified) said

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You never know, maybe those IW executives saw all that loot and decided to try and break off to go on their own, taking some employees with them- maybe someone at Activision got wind of it and brought down the hammer.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 5:23PM (Unverified) said

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WOW! If the secret meetings point is true, that is absolutely grounds for immediate termination. Activision would be well within their rights to can them. Best to wait to see if this information is confirmed by other sources, but damn. That's just asking for it.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 5:27PM HardBoiled2009 said

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what no Bobby Kotick Comments ?? as much as i don't care for Modern Warfare 1 and or 2 i was looking forward too really funny Bobby Kotick Bashing Comments
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 6:59PM (Unverified) said

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It amazes me how Bobby Kotick is still alive; I thought you needed a heart to survive. Guess you can live 46 years without one.
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Posted: Mar 2nd 2010 8:56PM SnatchTease said

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Kotick wanted to fire the two guys with the biggest bonuses first.
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Posted: Mar 3rd 2010 5:32AM Uraeus said

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If I where to speculate, and I guess that is what forums like this are for I would guess that the issue is more that these two guys where looking at their contracts expiring in October and had started to plan for that. While they could have stayed on, I wouldn't be surprised if they had started looking into leaving and setting up a new studio. Activision probably found out about it and was none to happy, and thus the current situation, especially if they had been talking with other publishers or had been trying to get some of the IW staff to come with them.
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