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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:36AM onilink79 said

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Fro some reason, I hate any loadout system. What's wrong with power-ups scattered on the map?
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 12:16PM Granger said

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I don't hate it, it works where it works, though I do prefer traditional class based games to the CoD style loadout and being limited to class specific weapons and abilities, if not completely restricted to a single set of gear you always spawn with. I'd just prefer if it would stop spreading so rapidly (it's so far pointless in LP2 for example, and quite detrimental to the balance and variety of the originals).

I think a mixture of both would suit Halo, as long as load outs were limited to the bare-bones old standby weapons (and not the entirety of the game's arsenal like in CoD, etc.). People who like BRs can spawn with BRs, people who like the standard assault rifle can spawn with it, and people who like SMGs or Plasma Rifles can spawn with those. Leave the rest of the arsenal and more specialized weapons as pickups in standard, non-weapon specific games, and I think everyone would be happy.

I LIKE the race to the Rocket Launcher, Sniper Rifle, Energy Sword, and Spartan Laser. I'd hate to see that change, even though it can on occasion lead to some awkward bottlenecks that just aren't fun.

The BR may have become the new standard, but a lot of people I play with hate them with a passion for whatever reason, which leads to a lot of Team BR vetoes from my team unfortunately. Truth be told, I'm not a huge fan of them either, and if given the opportunity I'd gladly spawn with SMGs or Plasma Rifles.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 12:19PM Granger said

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Also, in addition to class based games, I too prefer the old standard finder's keepers style as well over the CoD style. Felt that was important to note, and didn't mean to leave it out. Sorry.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 12:45PM GanonSmash said

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This is exactly what they're doing.the basic weapons will be in loadouts, but the more powerful stuff like Rocket Launchers and Sniper Rifles will be placed on the map for players to fight over.
Plus, the loadouts aren't player-customizable either, meaning that everyone in on a level playing field in terms of the loadouts available to you. Nobody gets better weapons just because they've poured more hours into the game.
Basically, instead of dividing matchmaking into Slayer ARs and Slayer BRs, there's jjust Slayer, and you decide which basic starting weapon you prefer.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 2:19PM 343 Guilty Fart said

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Gannonsmash has it right, the 'loadouts' are not something the player creates, they're a series of options determined by Bungie that vary by map and gametype. So you might have 3 options: Start with a BR, assault rifle, or DMR. The 'armor abilities' are somewhat separate.
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Posted: Apr 4th 2010 3:44PM Mazrael said

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Yes! I won't be dumped with a sniper rifle in online play.. maybe the online bug will get me for real this time..
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:37AM Soundwave said

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Let me guess... To compensate, Elites don't get the cool armor abilities.

Racists. :|
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:46AM ProtagonistZero said

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If you would actually read the article you wouldn't have to guess. Elites do get their own armor abilities that are exclusive to them, and Spartans get their own abilities exclusive to them. Then there are shared abilities.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:51AM Soundwave said

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I don't know how to read, sorry :(
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:57AM MGTrey said

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But you know how to discern exactly what someone is saying to you with text...without being able to read it?

I must know your secret.
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Posted: Apr 4th 2010 6:27AM (Unverified) said

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I read the comment to him, dood.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:38AM Moddey said

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i've got really high hopes for this game, especially after what a let down ODST was. But what ive seen so far looks really good.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:42AM Funkmaster General said

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I loved ODST, but I understand how some people wouldn't.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 12:55PM Got Horchata said

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Yeah, I agree with you, Reuben, that ODST was awesome. Just the firefight, the short but good campaign, and coupled with the best part of Halo 3, it's multiplayer plus Custom Games, Forge, and Theater, it was a great package. I really disliked Halo 3's campaign so ODST was refreshing to me
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:43AM Moddey said

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I've always preferred elites, so im glad they're being upgraded over spartans, i just hope in game modes where spartans can face elites, not absolutley everyone chooses an elite.
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Posted: Apr 4th 2010 1:45AM (Unverified) said

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i'm thinking those gametypes will make teams switch off between species
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:44AM Nirvash Planeteer Power of Capt said

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I'm squealing with joy right now!
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:46AM TROOF Serum said

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Of course! What would a few days be like without Bungie hyping their new game!

Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with marketing. But for a game that hasn't changed at all over the span of the installments because Bungie would rather play it safe... I'm surprised at their genius marketing when all they do is:

update the graphics
re-arrange the balancing numbers from previous games
add jet packs

release new Haloz!
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:52AM MGTrey said

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You obviously don't know how Bungie works. They give updates every week, this is just one of them. It just had a lot of information.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:52AM Soundwave said

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Don't forget the new weapons
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:58AM TheDarkWayne said

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Did you even read the article? What's "playing it safe" about completely overhauling the health system, adding a huge difference between elites and spartans that will greatly change required behavior, adding sprint, adding dodge, adding armor loadouts as well as traditional equipment loadouts? I'm sure you're gonna call me a fanboy, but geez man, at least try to act informed
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:58AM Katana Master said

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Right because Call of Duty is any better...

Bungie have weekly updates, the Beta is coming soon and they are preparing us for it. Why do you have to be anti halo?
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 1:15PM BoBsS said

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I think "youhavemail's" way of reinventing a game is if the game is completely overhauled and made into a different genre like an RPG

...

or a chess game ^_^
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 2:19PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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Anti-Halo fanboys are so darn cute!
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 2:39PM Sora said

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@Bobs

Chess with armor, guns, and jet packs? YES.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 3:08PM (Unverified) said

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@CaptainPlanet Your mom (Gaia) is so cute.
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Posted: Apr 5th 2010 6:00PM likedamaster said

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youhavefailed
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:46AM TheDarkWayne said

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Oh man, I am expecting countless instances of complete awesomeness with armor lock. Imagine a while warthog full of flag carrier and escorts comes barreling down at you only to have their day completely ruined!
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 12:45PM bradmeyerlive said

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I smell an achievo for something like that.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 1:38PM WiredKnight said

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$10 says it's called "Speed Bump."
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 2:35PM finnith said

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I can hear the 13 year-olds whining already.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 11:53AM (Unverified) said

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i dont like this at all! and this is coming from a halo fanboy
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 12:12PM Flame Killa said

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CHAAAAANGE!
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 12:24PM (Unverified) said

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KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN~!
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 12:12PM Hyams said

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Sounds like they're COD-ifying Halo a bit.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 1:11PM Katana Master said

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How so, please explain what only CoD has to offer that other games don't?
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 1:14PM Hyams said

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I meant that the load-outs are obviously inspired by COD.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 1:42PM Dr Blight said

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Call of Duty didn't invent loadouts, sorry.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 3:58PM Hyams said

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Yeah, but you have to be naive to think COD didn't popularise them.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 8:17PM EGOvoruhk said

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If any game popularized loadouts, it was Counterstrike
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Posted: Apr 4th 2010 2:45PM (Unverified) said

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No, you have to know gaming to know load-outs weren't popularized by Call of Duty. Load outs are akin to a class system, which has been "popular" since the beginning of gaming.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 12:16PM SitriStahl said

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as long as spartans vs elites isn't a one-sided rape-a-thon, i'm fine with elites being bigger, faster, and more damage-resistant
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 4:13PM ipsum said

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Sounds like a rape-a-thon to me.
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Posted: Apr 5th 2010 12:39PM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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Hay gaiz wut's going on in this rape-a-thon??
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 12:42PM RogueJedi86 said

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How will we know if Elites are superior to Spartans if we're not allowed to play them against each other? We won't have anything to benchmark them against.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 1:26PM Dr Blight said

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That's what Spartans vs Elites is for.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 1:24PM kenny goo said

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As a fan of gaming in general I'm sure I'll enjoy playing around with these new additions and I'll have some fun being creative and making some new gametypes out of it, but as a long time Halo fan, once that initial "wow factor" wears off I'll be stripping this game back down to Hardcore rules and playing 4v4s with my friends the majority of the time.

Don't get me wrong, I'll still be playing with this new stuff from time to time, but Hardcore is where my heart is at, and if they take out the option for longtime players to have gameplay at least reminiscent of the classic style, I think that's a huge mistake.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 2:20PM Acosta02 said

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Why not just keep playing Halo 3?
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 1:54PM EvoHelix said

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Current marketing strategy for all modern day AAA releases force each game to be accessible to new players of the series. Seeing as it's a prequel, and how drastically different the play mechanics of this game will be I'd say that's a "yes".

I'd recommend that you at least go pick up ODST. You'll get a feel for the Halo universe from one of my personal favorite iterations the series and you'll get access to the Halo Reach Beta to find out if you like the next game.
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Posted: Apr 3rd 2010 1:57PM stubby boardman said

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I can't wait to see a warthog escaping with my flag, only so I can jump in front of it and scream "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!" as I activate armor lock.
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