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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 8:40AM lessthankris said

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wow, thats awesome
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 8:42AM An Irish Saint said

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Was wondering what the system update at 2 in the morning was.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 8:45AM Vcize said

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And thankfully, this will only take about 3 seconds to update.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:37AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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More like 3-5 minutes depending on your connection
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 10:06AM Vcize said

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You on dial-up there guy? Actually, even dial-up wouldn't take that long I wouldn't think.

Granted, I haven't actually done this update yet. But considering that the entire NXE update, which was the biggest one, took about 8 seconds from clicking start to being finished, I'm doubting this one takes anywhere near what you're talking about.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 10:22AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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Lol....I have an ok connection....but it took about 3 and a half minutes
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 10:33AM Vcize said

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I won't get a chance to check it out until tonight, but I would be shocked if it took that long since I've never met anyone that had a 360 update that took more than 10 seconds.

Do you have your NAT open?
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 11:37AM spin cycle said

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Vcize:
I guess you forgot how long the original NXE update too. It had a quick 5 second download, but that was only downloading the program that then downloaded the NXE.

Sadly, the ultra-fast dash updates of the old days seem to be left behind now.

5 minutes does seem kind of far fetched though.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 12:01PM blueskyv201 said

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I can see how it would be annoying if you only wanted to play your PS3 once a month for two hours. Then all the updating and syncing would seem like a chore but if you use your PS3 on semi-regular basis, it not really an issue, at least not for me.
That's definitely not a good reason to give up on a console.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 12:04PM blueskyv201 said

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Ignore my comment, it was meant for someone else.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 12:31PM Vcize said

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I'm going to eat my words a bit here as I just did mine over lunch (though am still far from Chris' numbers).

52 seconds, which is by far the longest I've ever had one take (and no "install" time afterwards).

My connection is just the basic Comcast Cable. Typically takes about 4+ minutes for a PS3 update not counting install time.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 7:29PM PhilipJWitow said

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I don't get why people complain about how long it takes to load new firmwares, and then come on here and spend a few minutes posting about it with their leisure time. If you didn't post here, you'd easily make the time back you lost for installing the firmware. :\

It's sort of like you just like complaining.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 7:34PM Vcize said

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Uh, what? Most of us are posting from work or somewhere not in front of our TV.

Seriously, you could apply what you just said to just about anything on the planet. Do you seriously go around and update everything you own all day so you make sure it's completely ready to go the next time you use it?

When you want to play games, you want to play games. You don't go around updating your consoles when you don't want to play games so it will be ready the next time you do. That's ridiculously stupid overhead.

Imagine if you had to update the firmware on your car before it would drive. Would you seriously never complain about it, knowing that some mirror copy of you would just say "in the time you just spent complaining about it, you could have been updating the firmware on your car".

Really, that was a ridiculous comment.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 8:48AM Softserve said

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I'm not expecting a space fix, honestly... Last I heard with the hard drives, even if you make your own, you're still stuck within MS's size limitations. I'm sure the rules are different if you mod and avoid LIVE, though.

Anyway, about time with this. I'd like to keep my profile, saves and XBLA titles on one of these.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 8:53AM (Unverified) said

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I wish my ps3 updates only took 5 min...
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:28AM (Unverified) said

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I wish my PS3 updates added features instead of just removing them.

3.21 *cough*
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:41AM Dr Blight said

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The updates are uncompressed and heavily encrypted. That's why they take a while.

That, and they download the whole OS, not just a patch.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:44AM BIGGEN said

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@Bob Sapp

that's the main reason i prefer gaming on my 360.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:45AM superklye said

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Why are people down-voting? This isn't trolling, it's the truth.

PS3 updates take for-effing-ever.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:48AM NaeemTHM said

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"I wish people like you would get better connections....I have yet to have an firmware update take longer than 5 minutes on my PS3"

Yeah my PS3 update never really takes more than a few minutes, but the frequency of the updates really pisses me off. It's not so bad now, but there was a time when every freaking time I turned my PS3 on I had to do a system update.

Just wait a month and put all that shit out together Sony!
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:54AM BIGGEN said

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@Chris

you do realize faster connections aren't available in all areas right? in my area, all that's available is verizon dsl (and it is not high speed) and satellite which is a fookin rip off.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:56AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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@superklye it is trolling unless he has a shit connection....I update one of my PS3's over wi-fi like 30' away from the router and it doesn't take more than 5 minutes....
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:57AM blueskyv201 said

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@BIGGEN
you prefer gaming on your Xbox because you have to update your PS3 once a month? Well, that's perfectly rational.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 10:00AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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@BIGGEN yea sadly I have to remember that....but what it boils down to is this....either download via PC on a thumbdrive and install it....OR don't connect your PS3 to the Internet at all....I remember refusing to connect my PS2 via dial-up 7 years ago when I was forced to have that due to my area not having a faster option at the time....
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 10:07AM Vcize said

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Connection has nothing to do with it. An update on my 360 takes 3-5 seconds. An update on my PS3 takes at LEAST 3-5 minutes.

Same connection, completely different results.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 10:11AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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http://www.xtremeps3.com/firmware-history/

@bluesky it's not even once a month....sure there are some times were that was the case but there have been plenty of months where it got mo updates....hell it's been 4 months up until 6 days ago
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 10:11AM BIGGEN said

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@bluesky

maybe once a month for firmware, but i go to play PAIN, there's another update. and any other game i have saved that i may actually have a few minutes for, another update. i like to sit down and play my games that i paid for and not be met with a "there is an update for this game." and like several have mentioned above, the updates aren't quick, especially with slow dsl. come play at my house sometime. you'll be rational in no time.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 10:31AM Vcize said

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@blue_sky

It really can get very annoying, especially if it's a second console that you don't turn on as much.

Some friends recently started playing UC2 again, so I went to jump online with them. System update, several minutes to download. Then install the system update, several more minutes. Reboot. Then UC2 update, several minutes to download. Then UC2 install, several more minutes. Reboot. (Finally) get into UC, click "multiplayer" and then get met with "syncing live data" for another 20 minutes, which I restarted twice half-way through since I thought something had frozen and I couldn't jump into a party with my friends and just ask them.

All in all, waaaaaay too long to boot up a freaking game.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 11:57AM Travis959 said

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Speaking of connections and downloading times. You guys could have my internet! PS3 updates take about 2 hours usually, and I think NXE took almost 1 hour! But usually xbox updates take around 20 to 30 minutes

I pay for 1.5mb dsl and I get about 1/3 of that by the time it reaches my house. I'm lucky to get 45kb/s download speeds, and that's better than what I was getting a year ago. Alas its my only option except satellite and dial up. So don't feel bad if it takes 3-5 minutes to download an update, there is always people like me with way worse. =]
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 11:56AM zenaxe said

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I'm glad my PSP supports external usb devices with greater than 16GB! :)
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 12:35PM TravisO2 said

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I'm a Travis from an alternate dimension, here we get 20mbit download fiber optic for $60 a month. IOW my connection slowdowns, if they exist, are because the server isn't fast enough :P
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 1:21PM MowDownJoe said

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I wish my Wii's updates actually did stuff.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 8:51AM oOWallaceOo said

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I've just backed up my Halo maps for safe keeping and it got me wondering. Seeing as the Halo 2 maps are no longer on the marketplace could bungie now put them on their site for download ?
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 8:52AM BIGGEN said

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a step in the right direction for MS. this opens things up a bit for us stingy bastards that refuse to buy a new HDD. lol
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:03AM NaeemTHM said

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Hey it's not being cheap when the prices are unfair.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:05AM (Unverified) said

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No not stingy. We're just not idiots.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:08AM wormania said

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16gb USB Flash Drive from amazon is just under $2/GB
250gb 360 HDD from amazon is $.52/GB

How exactly is the flash drive the smarter option?
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:09AM Dafrety said

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My 120 GB is holding for now, but if I need more space I'm definitely going to just make my own 250 (or whatever is largest then.) I already put one together for a friend, it's not too hard.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:12AM BIGGEN said

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well, i just bought a 16GB flash drive for $16.59 off ebay with free shipping. granted, there were $3.40 in ebay bucks applied to it, but still, if you want to pay retail, be my guest.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:13AM Dafrety said

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@wormania
When a standard 2.5" SATA HDD is 6ยข/GB. Besides, you can use the flash drive for something else later. The proprietary 360 HDD will always be a proprietary 360 HDD.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:19AM wormania said

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I'm not saying standard HDDs aren't cheaper, I'm saying that USB flash drives are less cost-efficient than even proprietary 360 HDDs.
And if you really wanted to you could take the casing off the 360 drive and reformat it for use elsewhere, not that you'd really ever have a need.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:22AM NaeemTHM said

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"16gb USB Flash Drive from amazon is just under $2/GB
250gb 360 HDD from amazon is $.52/GB"

Dude a 16GB USB Flash drive is versatile, unlike the 360's 250GB harddrive.

I think this would be a more appropriate comparison:

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expansion-Portable-External-ST902504EXA101-RK/dp/B001SJVU24/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1270560015&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-120GB-Hard-Drive/dp/B000OYKQBU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1270560113&sr=8-2

Mmmm....buttrape.

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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:24AM NaeemTHM said

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@wormania

Sorry I'm slow...ignore my post.

By the way, a LOT of us have USB flash drives just laying around. This patch will definitely put them to use!
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:25AM wormania said

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Again, if you want storage for your 360, the Flash Drive is a less cost efficient way of doing it.
And the 16gb flash drive isn't versatile if you're using it for the 360.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 10:48AM WiNGSPANTT from TopTierTacticsco said

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Reasons flash drives are Neat-O:
1. Can be used on PC, Mac, some cars, and many other devices other than an Xbox 360
1a. Due to partitioning, it can be used for both the 360 AND other uses
2. Can be used to back up what's already on your Xbox 360 hard drive
3. Can be used to bring game saves/gamer profiles to a friend's house

So no, it's not a waste to buy/use a flash drive.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 11:01AM Petebot330 said

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You don't even have to use the whole thing for Xbox storage...so if you've got one laying around, you can use it if you need it.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 8:56AM (Unverified) said

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A 250 gb harddrive is about the same price as two 16 gb flash drives on eBay and amazon
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:07AM Dafrety said

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The Microsoft 250 GB HDD or just a standard 250 GB HDD? Because they're no where near the price of that overpriced Microsoft turd.
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:45AM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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He can't possibly mean the MS HDDs....

I can get a 16GB thumbdrive for under $20
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Posted: Apr 6th 2010 9:02AM NaeemTHM said

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"Users can use two sticks at once"

That's what she said?
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