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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:06AM MystileArmor said

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Yeah, cause you can't stream games is why... (and I don't want to either *looks with despise in his eyes at OnLive)

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:08AM Dr Blight said

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Madden 95 wouldn't have been on a disc anyway.

Still, Blockbuster needs something. $9.00 in store for 5 days is outrageous.

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:15AM Dr Blight said

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@Tea

Just saying, I doubt Netflix would send out Genesis and SNES carts.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:19AM Dr Blight said

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It has split screen and no load times. Do you need anything else?
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:35AM TheMichaelJackson said

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Does it have John Elway? It BETTER have John Elway!
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:12AM Dr Blight said

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Guess you can't play Tribes 2 then.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:20AM Puertoricarious said

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someone call 911, we need to get jerry to the BURN ward.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:41AM Dr Blight said

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Yeah. I never got all the CoD players bashing Halo 3 over it.

I think you can notice in sports games, though.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:50AM TheMichaelJackson said

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Is Michael Jackson's Moonwalker 60 FPS?
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 2:02AM Dr Blight said

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The arcade version probably does. However, since the System 18 board had suicide batteries, finding a working one would be tough.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 2:52AM sonicspike41 said

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Suicide batteries? That sounds like my desktop motherboard (Asus).

Every time I tried to install an Adobe CS4 program the battery would just die and I would have to replace it. Did it twice for CS4 and I called it in. Asus said it wasn't their problem, that I should call Adobe. Then I tried installing just the trial version of Nero 8 I think it was. Again the battery decided to an hero.

On topic though, it makes sense from Netflix's point of view, but I think they are missing a part of the equation. They don't need to hold onto games forever. They could sell older games used for a low price and both make some money and clear out stock! That solves the "nobody wants to rent old games" problem.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 3:01AM Dr Blight said

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A "suicide battery" was designed to prevent arcade piracy. Basically, if a battery was removed from the board, it locked up the ROM forever, as if the board comitted suicide. Problem is, it's not really changeable either...
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:15AM Nate Addison said

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I may use this service for the episodes of liberty city on ps3. Does anyone know if Niko makes a cameo or anything else that would link to the normal game besides the town and era?

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:19AM Bubbameister33 said

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Impossible Trinity.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:19AM MystileArmor said

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Yeah, but he shows up in a spaceship, kills dumbledore and then shoots bambi's mom. Oh and he's luke's father too.

And Bruce Willis is already dead.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:53AM killdash9 said

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The other guy wins in Pong.

Sometimes.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:22AM Sly C said

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it's awesome advertising so i doubt anyone cares too much. it's not like the spammers...

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:24AM MowDownJoe said

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There are action flicks from the 80's that don't hold up well when compared to modern action movies. And there are games from yesteryear that still hold up well when compared to modern stuff. To me, sounds like the guy from NetFlix is just blowing smoke up its own ass.
But I thought BlockBuster already had this as an add-on to their NetFlix-wanna be service, but there was some absurd service charge attached?

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:25PM Snaek said

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Blockbuster has their Game Pass, which lets you get unlimited games for a flat rate each month, but it's only in store and not every store participates.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:33AM TheGrandHero said

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Because all movies in 1972 were obviously great.

The irony here is that Pong and Hunt the Wumpus both originally came out in 1972. More irony, since he cites "Madden '95": 1995 is the year Suikoden came out (in Japan at least), and that sucker still sells for over two hundred dollars on eBay. Thank God you can get that through the PS store now, I couldn't find that game for YEARS.

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:36AM NutMan said

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He makes an interesting point. I think you're more likely to have rentals of old or "classic" movies than you are for old games. The market just isnt there. It's not significant enough to warrant keeping those old games in stock, anyway, save for a select few. That's why GameFly does huge inventory clearing sales every once and awhile.

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:32AM Ordeith said

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I don't know, I still completely enjoy Super Mario 3.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:36AM (Unverified) said

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There are several old games that are still fun to play...the problem is that not everyone has a SNES or Playstation at home to play them.

This is where virtual console/XBLA/PSN come in and why the Netflix rep is only partially right about old games not being in high demand.

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:39AM killdash9 said

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"who wants to play Madden '95?"

Someone should have said that to Jakks Pacific back in 2004. While it's great that Digital Eclipse made a laudable port of the Genesis version for Jakks' TV Games line, it didn't sell well, for what I think should have been fairly predictable reasons. Sports games depreciate faster than any other genre.

Anyway, it's a little odd that he picked that specific iteration of Madden to mention. Was he actually thinking of the failure of the TV Games remake?

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:40AM Dr Blight said

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Probably just picked a random number. The first one for the 32-bit consoles wasn't even until '97.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:48AM MystileArmor said

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How do 32-bit consoles fit into all of this? Or are we just going to yell out random facts of Wikipedia. Besides the 32 bit era lasted from 1993 to 2006.

I didn't get that off wikipedia... I swear.




Ok, I did get that off wikipedia.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:50AM Dr Blight said

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I was referring to 32 bit CD consoles that didn't SUCK. AKA PlayStation and Saturn.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:01AM MystileArmor said

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BUT WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?

Holy shit man!
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:02AM killdash9 said

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Mystile, I believe Blight meant that the guy probably picked "95" at random, thinking that would be a year with CD-based Madden (because a game rental service by mail would not deal in cartridge games).
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:04AM Dr Blight said

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You crazy Dutch b*stard! It means EVERYTHING! NETFLIX will NOT ship carts! The postage would be CRAZY!
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:45AM snarfoogle said

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I guess that guy doesn't know that not every game is a yearly slightly-improved-iteration sports title?

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:50AM TheGrandHero said

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Well, then how do you explain Chrono Trigger '98? And Grim Fandango '04? HUH? HUH? TELL ME HOW!

...Wait a minute...
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:57AM killdash9 said

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I learned this has been going on for far longer than I'd thought when I discovered a game called "Driver '76."
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 4:24AM LaughingTarget said

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That would be Interstate '76. Darn kids not knowing their PC game history. It had awesome 3dfx graphics.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 11:52AM killdash9 said

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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:47AM emperorzeroxx said

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eww movie from 1972.... Im the opposite of how they think.. I would most prefer to watch newer movies than some old piece of shit... with crappy camera work.. bad color horrible actors ect.... as for games I would love to play old games esp super Nintendo.

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:53AM TheGrandHero said

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While I don't personally care for it, I don't think I'd classify 1972's "The Godfather" as an old piece of shit with crappy camera work, bad color, and horrible actors.

And, honestly, for "old game" you've got to go further back than the SNES. To me, it's not "old" unless you're talking about, something like the NES or the C64. But I'm just an old fart from the early 80s, so what do I know? :(
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:56AM Dr Blight said

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Yeah, 16-bit isn't quite 'retro'. More 'classic'.

Besides, Alfred Hitchcock's movies are a lot older than '72, and they're better than most of the crap made today.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 12:58AM BrayG said

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I had Blockbuster for 2 years and recently switched to Netflix for the streaming. I would go back in a second if they added games to the service, as long as they don't double the price.

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:01AM Dr Blight said

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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:19AM Puertoricarious said

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jerry, speak for yourself. silent movies are the shit. this may come as a surprise to you, but there are people out there who *gasp* like different things than you do. just because *your* attention span doesn't last longer than 5 minutes doesn't mean that films other than hollywood blockbusters have no value to anyone (though to be fair, i enjoy hollywood blockbusters as well).

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:40AM Cgill24 said

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Yeah, no one wants to play Madden '95. But no one wants to watch Gigli now. Doesn't Netflix know how much Modern Warfare 2 made in sales? Oh 550 Million its first 5 days? Oh ok, Netflix you still rent movies that are happy to make 50 million.

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 1:42AM BigD145 said

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Silent movies will always trump Madden 'xx

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 2:13AM Lekko said

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I won't know anything about how good it is until I hear the price as well as all the details of how it works and how reliable it is. I have heard you can order things without a subscription though, which would be pretty nice.

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 2:22AM horngreen said

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JERRY! I was going to visit your site and give you loads of my money until you insulted black and white films along with subtitled (that's the word you were looking for dumbass) and silent films. That's real good business sense to knock something while you're trying to sell something. Stupid Blockbuster fanboys have no business trying to be in business.

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 3:01AM Dr Blight said

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...that's not Jerry's site, and it's free...
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 3:06AM SeannyD said

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I thought that Blockbuster was supposed to have this service happening by the end of last year. In fact, I could have sworn I remembered reading they had a pilot program going on in certain parts of the country.

I can't imagine that Netflix would go that route, though. They are focused on their business and it's a business they do really really well. In addition to the fact that streaming is growing incredibly quickly and continues to get better. Regarding their mail program though, most moves are around 2 hours long, people watch them once, and send them back. It's easy to predict the return schedule.

Games on the other hand have a much more involved predictability schedule. Some games are 8 hours, others are 80. There's a lot more work involved to anticipate availability, not to mention the overall higher price of purchasing games.

I would absolutely love to see Netflix get into the gaming business and have a heavy hitter to compete with Gamefly (which I canceled two years ago because of frustrating availability, a fact that could have changed in the meantime), but frankly, it just doesn't seem like it would be worth it to them. Their business continues to grow using the model they've set forth years ago. Yet, Blockbuster already has a foothold in the gaming world and it wouldn't be as much of a stretch for them to dip their toes into this arena. And it would give them another bullet point in their battle against Netflix. A battle that they appear to be losing pretty badly.

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 3:23AM Dr Blight said

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Plus, Game Fly isn't exactly cheap either.

Price wars FTW!
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Posted: Apr 10th 2010 3:56AM (Unverified) said

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One day game developers will figure out this rather important point, and figure out a way to sell their games for more than 3 months - like every other art/entertainment form.

That will be a great day.

in the meantime, we have GOG... and (at least in the UK) there are loads of DVD-by-mail stores that already do Games by mail.

Posted: Apr 10th 2010 7:13AM Punkrawk Bbob said

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I think Jerry has a point. Sure, SOME people enjoy classic hollywood era films. Most don't though. It's dated. There may be some merit or artistic concept worth viewing - But the same is said for games. Super Mario World may not be the cutting edge, but it's still plenty playable. It's still fun.

How many times have they released Namco Arcade classics by now? Pac-Man, Galaga, Space Invaders, Dig Dug, Pole Position... Or how many years has Tetris been a completely engaging experience with very minimal alteration? Some games are timeless, some are shlock. Same for films. Some films will stand the test of time, some games will. Most from both won't though. For every generic FPS or platformer there is a Hottie and the Nottie, Catwoman, Gigli, and a slew of romantic comedies not worth remembering.

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