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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:02PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said

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But I like my manuals :(
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:15PM OzCueball said

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^this. I never thought i'd see the day that a game instruction booklet would be considered obsolete.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:35PM joeboosauce said

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Does anyone realize that paper wastes a fraction of the resources PLASTIC cases use? Its better than nothing. But really, its like putting out a frying pan fire while your whole house is up in flames.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:38PM (Unverified) said

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"I never thought i'd see the day that a game instruction booklet would be considered obsolete."

Never? Really? In-game tutorials have been around since before the 3D era, and they have only gotten better and more contextualized. Good riddance I say.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:44PM technoKyle said

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Like you say though, it's better than nothing. As long as the same information is very easily accessible then I don't see a problem. I doubt many people read the manual when they're not playing the game anyway?
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:46PM OzCueball said

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@shepardzero

Key words there are "In-game". I don't want to have to be playing the game just to read up on the manuel before hand.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:52PM Dustin F said

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Trees are good.

Paper comes from trees and a profitable market for growing trees is a good way to make sure lots of tree farms grow lots of trees. There's nothing green about cutting this type of material. It's clever marketting and cost saving... I don't read the stupid things and I don't mind if the dev makes a little more profit by leaving it out.

But the best thing anything can be made of, if it's feasible, is paper or wood. Wood houses, paper manuals, paper cups... that's all stuff we can grow more of, it's ok for the planet to process it back. It's great stuff.

The energy it would take to run a PS3 and read an online manual is probably more than you think, too. Not that I an telling you to stop. Global warming clearly was overhyped and is not credible right now (even though the basic thrust, that we need to cut carbon emissions and use renewable energy, is obviously the best way to go whether global warming is going to kill us or not).
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:56PM Petebot330 said

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The only time I can think of recently when I had to consult a manual was Dragon Age, with their crazy complicated leveling system. Otherwise, yeah I don't really need it. And if they get rid of the manual, they could make those cases smaller
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 6:56PM Extinction said

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""It's pretty cool that Ubisoft is making a conscious effort to go green with its new video game packaging,""

That had nothing to do with it. It was cost and cost alone.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 7:11PM Slowrollin said

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Can't read a digital manual on the crapper...
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 7:39PM Hoops said

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"That had nothing to do with it. It was cost and cost alone."

This.

Ubi is cutting cost and trying to spin it as them being environmentally concious. You want to show how Green you are? Get rid of the disk and the case. Sell a paper sleeve with a code on it. That's much more green than dumping a paper manual. That doesn't do anything. I hate when companies do something to help themselves and then try to convince you that it's for a noble purpose.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 8:29PM The Wicker Man said

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Let's loose the entire case, cost of production, transportation and everything else. Downloadable games day one over PSN XBLA day one please! Since they are saving money (and being "green") will the cost of the game go down?
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Posted: Apr 20th 2010 4:21AM Chopper731 said

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@THE WICKER MAN

I would rather them not loose the physical copy thank you very much. I like competing retailers selling me games as well as the secondary markets created.
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Posted: Apr 20th 2010 2:04PM likedamaster said

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Translation: We're saving money while charging you more and giving you less.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:03PM zero2dash said

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I can remember taking NES game manuals to school and sneaking a peek at them throughout the day, imaging how awesome the game was going to be and hoping the time would fly.

It makes me a sad panda that my kids won't be able to do that themselves. =O
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:05PM Hunter141072 said

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well, at least they are going to read the books of the school instead of the game manual as you were supposed to do :D
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:07PM Dr Blight said

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School-provided books are usually 'classic' trash anyway.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:14PM RKN said

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Don't worry, today's kids will just read the digital manuals on their Ipod Touches provided by their moms and dads through convenient temper tantrums.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:22PM OzCueball said

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"It makes me a sad panda that my kids won't be able to do that themselves. =O"

That made me tear up a bit. With how fast technology advances today our kids are gonna live completely different lives than we did and their kids aswell.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:23PM Manifest37 said

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YES! SNES & N64 manuals made school bearable.

My discrepancy with companies "going green" is that they only do it to put more green in their pockets by cutting costs & keeping the savings for themselves.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:33PM Courtney said

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I miss the gigantic, half-a-tree-killed game manuals, like the old PC RPG ones. Those things took days to read. I'd carry them around to class, leave them by the toilet, read them before I went to bed.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 7:43PM Nook said

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It goes to show you how, as a group of people that grew up during the late 70's, 80's and even early to mid 90's are in a very unique vantage point to realize the magnitude of the shift that is taking place.

When you grow up in such a changed system, you don't realize it. When you witnessed the change, you can see how a persons minds is even wired differently.

Momentous time, and tech is evolving faster every day. The exponential curve is what we're riding on right now.

I remember having the overworld map for Zelda and looking it over before playing and picturing my quest that was about to being.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 7:57PM YourMomsLover said

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I remember taking my sega genesis manuals to school and some kid with snes manuals laughed because they weren't in color. Kids can be so cruel!
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Posted: Apr 20th 2010 11:09AM The BZA said

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@ Nook.. i grew up in the 90s.. we were still reading manuals then up till the early.. umm.. 00s..? lol.. early 2k.. however the hell you wanna call the past decade.. but lately with later ps2 games and practically all ps3 games.. i dont remember ever reading the manual..
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:04PM Hunter141072 said

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they´ll get greener without DRM....
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:05PM Acosta02 said

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How.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:07PM Hunter141072 said

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not killing their innocent customers like if they were bashing baby seals ?
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:08PM Dr Blight said

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No, by not using a ton of electricity to run a bunch of useless DRM servers.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:10PM Ballistic3188 said

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@Acosta02
you do know that authentication servers take up electricity and the constant communiation between your computer and theirs. that means more coal is being burned. so yes if they removed all drm they would indeed be greener.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:11PM Hunter141072 said

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Dr. 32X [RIP Halo 2!]:

bingo!
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:13PM Acosta02 said

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Thank you for answering my question. I had not thought of that.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:35PM Gibbeynator said

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They'd also make more money, considering people would actually BUY their products.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:04PM Kif said

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You don't need to pull this 'going green' stuff on us, Ubisoft. We're all adults here. We know you want to save money. No need to make a desperate appeal to our slacktivist enviro-self-righteousness.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:15PM whylekat said

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But this way they get to save money and face.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:19PM 01 said

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But generally, that's how change happens. Most social and environmental shifts have an economic base. It's great that companies are working on these issues, but it's unfortunate that it has to wait until they lose money to make themselves change.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 8:04PM maveric101 said

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"slacktivist enviro-self-righteousness."

nice term. i like it. and imo your comment is spot on.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:04PM RKN said

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Too bad the savings aren't passed onto us.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:06PM BrianH said

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Yep.

well, either way, i wouldn't have been buying these games anyways, and if i did, it would most likely have been digital.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:13PM mywhitenoise said

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i don't know where you're from. But around here, most Ubisoft games drop in value by 50% only a couple months after release.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:14PM profeteer said

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No joke. They might still include them in the collector's edition!
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:33PM (Unverified) said

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You mean I'll still be paying full price for a bit less? Ouch.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:56PM (Unverified) said

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This.

I can't believe they'll continue setting the RRP @ $60 when it is clearly worth $59.99

Damn corporations and their corporate chairs.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 8:43PM Enosoma said

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BY THE WAY TUROK REALLY LOVES PEPSI AND WEARS ROCCAWEAR STUFF. AND ALSO YOU LIKE THESE THINGS. ALSO THEY WILL BE IN THE NEXTEST TUROK GAME. AND YOU WILL PAY SIXTY DOLLARS.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 8:48PM eat it said

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one could argue that with the money they will save (lots) that they will be able to hire another developer or two or three a year. In which case the quality of a new game may increase a little bit, which, is passed on down to us.

plus if you divide up the savings by the amount of copies that they make it probably only comes out to like 37 cents a copy.

also it should be noted that you could get assassin's creed 2 for $40 pretty much a week after launch.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:05PM PilzE wants your mint spaghetti said

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I hate that manuals are going away. Hopefully this won't become a trend from quite some time. Granted the BW manuals do suck, but the full color ones tend to be pretty cool. Atlus has always been good about that. Working Designs manuals were the best, though. They could use recycles materials to make them, but what do I know?
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:58PM OzCueball said

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Agreed. The manuel for Bioshock was the only reason i bought the game. I'd put false opinions on the game and thought it was over my head untill i decided to read the manuel at work and after doing so, understood everything you could do and as a result loved the hell out of it.

Game manuels are underrated.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:05PM Yan said

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Not in approval of this end to paper manuals, Ubisoft. Not one bit.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:05PM RKN said

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I have noticed how much more flimsy today's game packagings are to just a few years ago. The Assassins Creed 2 PC box at my Best Buy felt very weak and lightweight, as with my copy of Arkham Asylum. It was nice to feel some bulk in my Oblivion: GOTY edition for instance.
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:07PM BrianH said

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wait? you bought ac2 for pc?
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Posted: Apr 19th 2010 5:14PM RKN said

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No, at least not yet. I was tempted by a $10 price drop on it recently by Target but I have such a massive backlog to go through anyways. I just looked at the box at my Best Buy.
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