Sega to reveal Natal, Move projects at E3 suited for 'PS2 type' audience

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Some of us would call that an optimistic situation. The death of motion controls? Sign me up!

Hopefully "3D" movies will go the same way.

As someone who has two work with all 3 consoles and all related methods of control related to them I gotta say Natal is the most refreshing change of pace from the daily grind. I don't know if I can handle another wand flicker at home but I can definitely fall in love with Minority Report UI navigation from my massive foam beanbag style chair even if it turns out to just be a dashboard novelty (which it certainly isn't *wink wink*)

If I were you guys I'd be more concerned with the nature of 3D gaming, the new costs associated with it and the potential financial impact on consumers who don't even want to opt into this new era just yet. My eyes! Trust me... it's just... trust me.

Feel free to eat away at my grammar and redundancy. Long hours ya know and I gotta make work for leisure activities which means... no sleep.

To be honest Natal concerns me just as much as the others, because of the lose of tactile feeling. Humans are creatures of touch, and the lose of that connection might be a problem. Even controllers provide some form of direct link to the game, even if it is just pushing buttons.

That's what I like about Natal, you can use it with your 360 controller. You don't have to put down your controller and pick up another.

I thought the "PS2" audience was just broke motherf******s.

If that girl in the background gave you the time of day, you would probably have a heart attack.

At least most folks who go out of their way to say 'she's not hot enough' about attractive women, and like cartoons more than real women, tend to be *fat* or incredibly unmanly.

And people who rush to the defense of pictures of women the internet tend to share these attributes, as well as virginity.

Oh, I think she's pretty. I wasn't really making a defense of her though, was I?

Maybe I hit the nail on the head for more than one person, though.

Whether I'm a pathetic fat virgin or a happily married man with a family of my own who is frankly too old and too happily married for this kind of exchange (the latter is true), I have a point.

A lot of people think it's interesting to announce that some attractive woman is not attractive, and when I've occasionally met these people, they are amazingly unworthy of their standards. In this case, it's just all the more funny because he's preferring a cartoon girl dressed like a hooker with a body shape that can't even accommodate all the human organs, as the 'good choice' over a pretty girl.

I'm not really being judgey here... I just think that's worth laughing about. Barbie isn't prettier than living women. Some weak minded girls get the idea that they are too fat because of these comments on the internet, but I think they would feel better if they realized that the people with that attitude are compensating.

"The jet set radio looking girl."

So you don't recognize Ulala? I hey chu!

Eyetoy and Eye have been terrible!

Maybe Natal will be fundamentally superior, but I think it's only a relatively minor improvement.

I also think it bodes poorly for Move. Perhaps it will rock, and certainly a lot of the demos look pretty sweet, but a lot of the Eye demos looked awesome and it's actually totally lame.

It was wise for Sony to see the virtues of the wii and go that route (I know, I know, sony thought of it first bla bla bla). That's just more likely to be fun than a really really sophisticated version of the eyetoy.

wait i really dont understand your point.

i thought mine was clear. playstation eye and eyetoy were lame. because camera based controller free gaming is lame, and thus natal will be lame. I did leave certain possibilities open for it to be redeemed, but clearly stated that because of my past experiences with controller free gaming is that it will likely be a lame and disappointing technology.

How does this bode badly for move? Move is the showing to be the most accurate motion controller in the industry, and unlike natal it provides haptic and tactile feedback. The analogue trigger is also key as it provides a very important measured input which can be used for things like acceleration, squeezing etc.

can you clarify your point a little more, its quite muddled right now. basically just tell me what console you're a fanboy for and then defend its technology the best you can. im going to guess that your a xbox fanboy because of your vague and disingenuous hope for natal but i didnt really understand your argument for natal and exactly what you were talking about. please elaborate.

It bodes badly for move because the hype behind eyetoy and eye was proven to be hilariously dishonest.

Hilariously. And so, when Sony promises an awesome motion control scheme, I think the fact that their last one was nowhere near as good as promised is an ill bode.

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/ps3-ps2-eye-usb-camera-comparison/89613

I bought into this crap and bought the Eye on day one.

Now, the Move does seem to employ a more realistic and feasible system than Eye alone. And I'm a big old PS3 fanboy, and love much of the quality of their products. But their promo on Eye made it seem like I could easily control and play a lot of interesting games, and that reminds me a lot of the Move promos.

If Natal isn't a total disaster it will represent a pretty amazing accomplishment by MS, but I think they aren't credible at all on anything.

Also, not everyone is a hopeless unreasonable fanboy.

Nothing about what I said was muddled. You just couldn't figure out which team I was on because I'm a little too honest about the problems of my console. I've got hundreds, perhaps thousands, of praise comments for PS3 and I think that's the best value by far. Other than otherOS, I really never have a problem with their work. I do think their promos for the Eye were just flat not truthful.

So when you tell me the Move is the best looking motion control, and indeed it looks that way in promos, I look at reality and see a potential problem. I hope the Move turns out to be more honestly represented than the Eye was. RE: the link in my last comment.

And you're a troll.

No, I didn't pick up on any sarcasm. My bad if it was there. Since you're not intelligent enough to comment reply properly, it's not even clear which sarcasm I missed yet.

Panzer Dragoon, yes!!!

My husband and I loved playing Oorta on the Xbox1. The visuals were impressive then -- they'd be amazing in 1080p with better lighting and shaders!

And yes I replied "incorrectly" to annoy you.