Original Xbox 360 requires separate power connection for Kinect

@Raffi256

its for head tracking

@Raffi256 That's what that AUX port is for on the back of the Xbox 360 S.
Microsoft was thinking how do we copy Apple and Sony at the same time. We'll make a slim console that's shiny and then call it Xbox 360 S like the iPhone 3G S with the shiny backing.

Don't downrank me. I just tell the truth.

@Alexisonfire
Not as far as we've been told. Adam Greenberg mentioned it would be "included" with the package. Here's hoping.

@Alexisonfire
Sorry that's Aaron Greenberg, not Adam.

@Alexisonfire Where do you live/shop that DC cables cost $19.99? But either way, the cable comes with the Kinect, it is free. Or rather, it's in with the price you pay.

@(Unverified)

Where do you shop that Wi-fi dongles cost $100?

But yes, good to see that the obviously packed in power cable is obviously packed in. And that my jokes are taken seriously.

@Negatron I just typed that and I'm pooped.

*bites into a high cholesterol-carb substance*

@(Unverified)

Expensive tech? Did you see this thing scan anything in at the press conference? Did you see Milo at E3 this year?

Everything that was done at E3 can already be accomplished with an Eyetoy, don't kid yourself.

@Vadrix

Im calling it now, next internet meme "Drunken Dancing Dad"

actually....no it can't. eyetoy can't track in 3D and that's why sony needed to make the move controller because it uses the relative size of the ball for depth tracking.

This thing is a lot more than a webcam and the reason they showed off the software they did was A) they need to impress the Wii audience, and B) the people making "real" games were too busy rehashing to take the time to re-envision them for it or come up with new ideas for it. Give it time and the good stuff will come. They at least have the benefit of already having a core market unlike the wii.

Looks like somebody missed the entire show. Lets talk when you show evidence of the Eyetoy's 3D camera, automatic head tracking, 4 player complete body tracking, drop-in drop-out split screen play automatically switching when a new player steps on screen...

The Eyetoy has always been a simple webcam with clunky software. Things that have been available on PC since the early 90s. The new Eyetoy with Move is simply a Wii remote with Augmented Reality, which even the iPhone can do.

You honestly have no idea what the Kinect is actually doing, do you? Please do your research before spouting fanboy nonsense. The Eyetoy can simply not do what the Kinect can do.

It cannot take your measurements so precisely (height, hips, waist etc) like the Ubisoft game does on Kinect - it cannot understand depth at *all* - it doesnt know the difference in tone of voice - it can't track seperate arms, legs and heads and do different things with them depending on the software.

EyeToy can see something is there. It can see anything is there. Anything that moves, it can see. It does not know if its a human body shape, a dog, a peice of paper, a ball, anything like that. It simply sees it as movement against a non-moving background.

I'm serious - if you can come up with some video demo showing the Eyetoy doing what the Kinect just did at E3, then you will have my apologies. But I know for a fact you will find nothing of the sort.

haha!
Wait, you were joking, right?

@MrXBob
HAHA did you even see ubisofts demo? dance dance video? they werent even playing it, they just pulled out the kinect as a prop. go ahead watch it, it looks legit until they speaker turns around and its still giving him perfects hahaha.. none of the demos presented recognized 3d space, yes it recognized if you were in form, nice, it does the automatic player recognition, whatever. does the Z-axis actually work? from what i saw from the press conferences it only recognized where you were in relation to the screen, ie duck hunt without a gun. the same tech that your paying 150$ extra is going to be standardized in televisions as remote controls. oh and can you get force feedback with just your hands and a camera, nope i didnt think so, ,looks like you'll need a whole body suit, wonder how much uncle bill is gunna charge for that

"Give it time"

LOL, you can wait all you want. Even you admit they're going after the casual market with this thing.

Great points.
I'd like to point out that after seeing it's precision I'm more confident then ever it will be great for RTSs.

Fanboy? You're the one writing paragraphs of nonsense on a piece of equipment you haven't even touched yet.

Lionhead seriously need to revist Black & White with this tech. The pet game pretty much had the same basic creature interaction from the original PC games!

I'm not about to get into an argument about what I have or havent done - needless to say, your points are completely invalid as it's clear you didnt see the show and are just making snap judgements for some reason.

Most obvious reason being you want to dislike it before getting to understand what it actually does.

@AC3BraZzy

The eyetoy just recognises movement against a still background

Kinect actually can tell the diffrence in weight between two people

it adds split screen automatically when another person steps in front of it..

it's way more than an eyetoy