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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 12:11AM Themoreyouknow said

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Geez, I hate to see the future of games. First holding back content and releasing it as "DLC" or "VIP content" when you don't have to download even 1 MB. Then having to pay $10+ if you buy the game used. Soon you'll have to pay more for a game or just buy daily passes to play it.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 12:26AM shadowj0 said

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@Themoreyouknow

It's like crack to them. And Blizzard is the dealer. They can do whatever they want to make money, and they know Korea will pay.

Let's just thank them that they stopped their business model for the US at split to 3 CDs.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 1:50AM PhilipJWitow said

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@Themoreyouknow.

Hmm, your comment isn't actually related to the article whatsoever. You're just whining about DLC on disc and paying for new games AKA actually giving the developers the money they deserve.

I think it's great that Blizzard is trying new models instead of the old "Game is X price." This could potentially be how other publishers decide to release games like Call of Duty, where instead of paying a flat fee you just pay a monthly fee. Nothing wrong with that. :)
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 2:51AM Ashkental said

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@Themoreyouknow

If you worked on the Game Industry and having huge losses because of used game sales you'd do the same.

It's not like in cars used business, the cars gets old, becomes less and less valuable and the car makers gets money from buying new parts to fix it when it eventually breaks.

Games never get old, never break, they're software, they're there. The guy who's buying Bad Company 2 used gets THE EXACTLY SAME thing as the guy who's buying it new, the difference is Gamestop gets ALL the money and the Devs who are guys that works saturdays AND sundays to get that sweet game to you don't get anything. Is it fine for you to do that?

For me it's the SAME as piracy, because in both you're not supporting who you should've been. Sure, in piracy you don't even give money to nobody, but do you feel good knowing that gamestop is getting all the money that should be going to some nice studio?
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 8:07AM Esposch said

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@Ashkental
I don't see it like piracy at all.
The way I see it, when someone sells a used game, they are essentially saying that they didn't think the game was worth their money, and therefore they are un-buying it.
I have no qualms selling games I don't think are worth what I paid for them, as it's the developers who are making products I don't like that are "losing" money. Same applies when I buy them. The guy who's selling it didn't like it, therefore the devs don't deserve his money in the first place.

I believe the ability to sell things I don't like is a right, and it strongly encourages developers of all products, not just video games, to make a quality product that I will want to keep. Plus it is solely because of the used games market I have tried certain games. No way would I try some niche Japanese RPG if I didn't have the guarantee I could sell it and get most of my money back.
So really all it is is giving power to the consumers through increased consumer sovereignty and the innovative devs by increasing consumer confidence, which it does by taking away from those who produce poor quality or samey products.
Quite the opposite to piracy IMO.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 10:49AM Themoreyouknow said

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@Esposch You see, for some reason everyone thinks games are holy. So you're not allowed to buy them used b/c the devs deserve every piece of your money. When in reality it doesn't work like that. The publishers give the devs a certain budget to work with. I'm sure there are many devs who come so close to a deadline or the budget limit that they release the game whether it's ready or not. Do you think they care about us when they do that?

Also, the game sales don't go to the devs. The sales of a game go to the publisher. Maybe if they sell a whole ton the publisher will give bonuses to the devs.

I will buy a new game if it's something I really want or feel deserves a $60 price tag. Most games do not, especially 360 games. There is NO reason a 360 game should be $60. Only reason is b/c Microsoft gets royalty fees. So the more a game costs, the more Microsoft makes. And don't you dare say it's b/c of increased dev costs, b/c PS3 games are on blu-ray which physically costs more money. And PC games are still $50.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 1:13PM rajendra82 said

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@Ashkental

Games do get old and look worse than the current releases and get discontinued as new SKUs. The guy buying and older game (say Battlefield Bad Company) may get the same content as it was on the day it was released,but sure as hell is not the same game as the new Battlefield Bad Company 2. Gamestop doesn't get ALL the money, what they get is the difference between what they pay the initial owner and the going rate for the used copy. Gamestop guys work saturdays AND sundays too, and risk getting shot by a robber (happened here last year), or risk buying a copy of the game from you and then having no one come and buy it from them. It's fine for me to do that, just like it's fine for me to loan the game I finished to my friend, or to sell it on eBay and keep all the money?

I buy a game, it's my choice what to do with it once I am done. If I couldn't sell it, I might not have bought it in the first place, so by having a used game market, sales of new games are driven up initially. They are less in the long run, but developers get their money first, and Gamestop gets more later.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 12:26AM Faceless Troll said

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Removing realistic blood coloring and profanity in an RTS game that's about war? What the Christ is Blizzard smoking?
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 2:27AM Frostblade10 said

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@Faceless Troll

Whatever they smoking, it was probably rolled with $100 bills!

Also, so what? What Blizzard is/are bringing young Korean children great happiness with this. The only reason anyone can disprove of this is if they aren't in Korea.

On that note, I disprove because I want SC2 for free as well. :)
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 2:43AM Ashkental said

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@Frostblade10 Happiness? Do you know how many people are treated in Korea for Game Addicition? No? Neither do I, but the numbers must be huge!
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 5:02AM Frostblade10 said

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@Ashkental

Let them eat cake, I say!
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 12:26AM ch3burashka said

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Apparently Blizzard hates Koreans and wishes them ill - why else would they make SC2 so readily available to millions of its users, already at the edge of their endurance? Shame on you...
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 12:28AM Ezio Auditore da Firenze said

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No smoking in the game, huh?

Well, that makes sense. I know how vehemently opposed most Asians are to smoking.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 2:41AM Ashkental said

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@Ezio Auditore da Firenze

Go tell that to the Japanese
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 12:28AM Ordeith said

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That's one way to sell the Koreans on it with no LAN support.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 12:44AM monkeyontherun4 said

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thats sweet and all but i want to play some freaking SC2!!! when is the beta coming back online!
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 1:07AM R Planteer said

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Saddens me that SC with a graphics upgrade will sell millions more than DoW2...
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 1:13AM MrCassian said

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@R Planteer

Saddens me that DoW2 isn't even half the game DoW is.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 1:34AM Themoreyouknow said

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@R Planteer
Saddens me that hardly anyone play Age of Empires 2 The Conquerors anymore b/c of all this hyped up SC and WC nonsense.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 1:44AM Draken Stark said

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@R Planteer
It's just a "graphics upgrade" as DoW1 was to DoW2...
Warcraft 2 was to Warcraft 3...

I think maybe you were talking about this
http://www.moddb.com/mods/project-revolution
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 2:18AM Cleric said

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DoW2 was much more different than DoW1
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 5:41AM Foetoid said

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@R Planteer

I 'was' going to comment on your idiocy and your failure to notice almost every sequel ever is almost the same game with a graphics upgrade, but i was interrupted by a transmission:

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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 8:35AM R Planteer said

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@R Planteer

Thats exactly why I'm sad foetoid. DoW 2 changed the RTS game forever, at least to me. showed me you can have fun RTS action without 20 mintues of base building per game.

And while i havent done the math, many sequels introduce at least some new gameplay mechanics. Halo 2 brought dual wielding and online play, Half Life 2 brought us the gravity gun...

SC is positively nothing new. I cannot think of a single strategy from SC1 that is not also used in SC2. The tactics are the same. The playable races are the same. Even the vast majority of the units are exactly the same.

If anything SC2 is worse thanks to lack of LAN.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 8:39AM R Planteer said

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@R Planteer

Furthermore I never sad that that wasnt the case. I simply said that I'm sad that a graphics overhaul (which you basically just admitted it was) will vastly outsell an RTS game that tried something new, risky, and surprisingly effective and fun from its previous iteration.

Your dickery and insults were seriously uncalled for.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 1:08AM Tezz said

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not a giant change tbh.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 1:39AM Darkdrium said

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How long before we get the Necris from Unreal Tournament as a playable race?

MY.
BLOOD.
IS.

...

BLACK.
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Meh, if that's what it takes for them to sell millions over there, so be it. It isn't that big of a deal, especially if they offer the mature version later (but not THAT much later) on.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 1:43AM Colostomeboy said

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Wow this is going to be a mature game? first i have ever heard of it, anyway still excited for this game, really wish they would give us the whole things and not make it three games, but hey I guess WOW isn't as profitable as it used to be. (SARCASM!)
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 1:54AM Omnistatic said

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ke ke ke ke zerg rush'd ur SCVs
srry ^_^
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 2:40AM Ashkental said

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@Omnistatic wow, just read what you've written.

It's almost like an alien language... Seriously, just take a quick look, none of your words are actually in the dictionary (only rush) and I'm not proud to say that i've understood what you were saying...

Just imagine someone's grandma, or older parent reading that... They would be like: WTF?
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 2:37AM Ashkental said

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JUST RELEASE THE DARN THING ALREADY!

We don't want to wait 10 years like the Diablo guys!

and while you are at it... RELEASE A BETA FOR DIABLO TOO!

We don't want to wait another 10 years like.... us, the Diablo guys!
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 5:10AM AGBear said

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@(Unverified)

Thanks for your witty and well thought out post.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 5:43AM Foetoid said

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@AGBear

Leave him vent, Kotick ran over his cat (or something equally as improbable).
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 10:41AM Gco said

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....googoojillion....'nough said
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 10:45AM MK4512 said

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Wait, do we still get the Smoking, Bloody version of SC? Cause cutting a marine in half w/ a zealot isn't the same with black blood... D:
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Posted: Jun 30th 2010 2:00PM Gwr said

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So you either wait a few months or buy the game two times otherwise you're stuck with the kiddie friendly version.
Nice.
At least they get the game unlike China where its fate is still uncertain.
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Posted: Jul 1st 2010 7:07PM Cowboy Curtis said

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Nice!
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