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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 5:23PM GameGoal said

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Well is all I have to say is I am definitely sticking with OnLive! I have been using the service since the launch and it is great! So we will see what OnLive has in store for us. Hopefully something great!

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 5:32PM Bubbameister33 said

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Are you a shill?
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 6:06PM Duke said

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This coming from the guy who only posts in joyswag or onlive articles...yeah, he's a shill.
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Posted: Jul 10th 2010 4:37AM Unvrfd said

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...so I hear all you want for Christmas is a PSP.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 5:24PM AlexDeGruven said

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I met with Joe, myself at E3 this year. He's very confident that OnLive is going to be a game-changer.

In my own experience (I'm active on the Founding Members program), OnLive is fantastic.

As with others, I don't have DX11-capable hardware yet, but I can play DiRT2 (granted only 30 min at a time, since it's not available for PlayPass yet) as much as I want. I can even do so on a Dell with Intel GMA graphics (read: can't play anything).

I'm definitely going to be picking up a Micro Console when they become available. Being able to play relatively high-end games on my HDTV with a box the size of a paperback novel is just fantastic.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 5:31PM BobStewart said

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As long as my isp doesnt kill me for all the bandwith I have been using with this I will keep using it. I love being able to play all these great games without purchasing a new computer. Heck I was playing just cause 2 on my macbook (3yo) and it worked great.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 5:32PM Shadowbender said

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I remember seeing Mova tech over a year ago I think it was at GDC. It was pretty mind-warping, yes.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 5:36PM Matrixxxx said

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IMO for people like me who don't need to worry about having a slow PC the only way I will stay with this type of service is if they offer the 3 or 5 game pass for every game thats more then a month or 2 old. I thought that was how it was going to be but only the real old games get the 5 day pass. If I am going to pay full rate for a game, I might as well go with Steam or buy it from a store. Again for a guy like me this won't work the way it is right now. I assume this isn't designed for people like me.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 5:38PM a2512774 said

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It is shit. Controls are laggy as hell. Nobody should have to play like that.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 6:20PM Kyammi said

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Yep, save your money for a good PC, or even a 360 or PS3. You'll get better graphics, no input latency, actually own physical copies of games, and not be online to play them.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 9:38PM DWilson8504 said

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Agreed, It really isn't that great. It's a cool idea but it doesn't work as well as they say it does. The graphics look horrible (and I'm comparing games I've played on PS3 to this service) and the lag sucks. The pricing is outrageous comsidering you don't get to keep your games if you un-subscribe and the lack of rentals sucks. I do however like the ability to watch other people playing. That is an interesting idea. Otherwise I'm glad it was free.
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Posted: Jul 10th 2010 4:39AM Unvrfd said

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"and not be online to play them"
Oh wait...
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Posted: Jul 11th 2010 5:39PM aforty said

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Not sure I agree. The graphics aren't the best but are acceptable. I have no problem with lag either, it is very playable for me. Haven't bought anything yet but I tried Batman and Splinter Cell demos and it was a good time. I could see this catching on.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 5:42PM koehler83 said

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The phrase "change the world" is a clear indication of failure.

Posted: Jul 11th 2010 11:35PM Hackjob said

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These people should team up with the brains behind hulu plus and form the digital distribution disaster club.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2010 9:53PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said

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@koehler83

Agreed, it should be:

"Take over the world". That way they would fall in line with the other villains :D
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 5:53PM nickux said

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In my experience, I've had nothing but a great time with OnLive. As a long-time Mac user it's great to finally play some PC games. My only problems are the prices (they need to be competitive) and the inconsistency behind which games are available for rent and which ones aren't.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 5:56PM Talos Izanagi said

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my computer is a piece of crap when it comes to graphics...so bye bye OnLive.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 6:11PM liquidsoap89 said

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I believe that's the EXACT reason you would want OnLive...
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 6:00PM pinasBooyah said

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Its gonna suck big time if this thing fails. I think the biggest thing they will have to deal with is lag. I mean sure you may be able to offer alot of big time titles out there but if the service is crappy, on and off, some lag, crash , etc then that will kill them the most.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 6:09PM Marzz said

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I played around with onlive a bit on my laptop.

I have a reasonably good connection (10mb/s) and it started lagging pretty terribly for me. I have an xbox 360 controller, and I was trying out Lego Harry Potter. Timing the jumps and trying to make it over gaps was nearly impossible for me.

I'm pretty darned good at Unreal Tournament. It's the FPS i've been playing since i got a capable computer, and i almost always put in at least an hour a day to cool off and relieve stress. I tried out Unreal Tournament 3, with a mouse and keyboard, and those quick swing-arounds and sniper shots were nearly impossible. I kept overshooting my mark by about a foot, due to the input lag.

I could see something like this being a viable platform for games that don't require split-second input, casual puzzle games and such, and it's definitely a novel idea for playing/previewing games you don't own and can't quite run on your current hardware (And it certainly shows you a reason to upgrade, seeing games run that fluidly on your computer), but as a persistent platform? I can't see it happening. I can't reasonably forsee this being "The future". There are too many problems with it as it stands right now, the least of which being that you can't play on a wireless connection, so the "gaming anywhere" idea is pretty hard to swallow.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 6:16PM Marco le Polo said

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The future sounds pretty good minus the world 'splodes and everyone dies part in 2012.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 6:34PM Vcize said

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@Marco le Polo

You have to take the good with the bad.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 7:03PM TheBrainninja said

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I'm in with the Founding Member's thing, and I can't seem to access it anywhere. Whenever I go to a computer, it tells me Access Denied, or somesuch. This is *after* logging in. O.o

It lets me do whatever account management I want, but not actually play any games away from my computer. Which sucks, because my computer's on a wireless network, which is an instant no-go for OnLive.

I'm ready and willing to give this thing a go, but it won't let me ;_;

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 7:29PM Wookie500 said

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Does anyone actually want to pay full price for renting a game? Steam's prices are far lower most of the time with no monthly subscription fee, and they at least CLAIM you can keep your games forever (time will judge whether they can live up to this promise).

OnLive, on the other hand, has outright said that they will take games off their servers after some period of time. And if you stop paying your montly subscription fee, you lose access to the games you paid full retail price for. Why would anyone accept that deal?

Posted: Jul 10th 2010 1:37AM dariusdetiger said

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@Wookie500 Their banking on people not wanting to upgrade their computers to play games. But personally I can't see thinking it's a great deal. However, the "Same price, less features" company motto seems to be working well for Apple, so maybe they'll actually make a bunch of money anyway.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2010 1:29AM misterquin said

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@(Unverified) This company doesn't have the luxury of being a respected, recognizable brand. Your comparison to Apple was sort of inaccurate.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 7:43PM Verrier said

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Server side computing WILL be a great idea when internet connections are fast enough.

But right now internet connections aren't even fast enough to have lag-free multiplayer games, even in those with smaller player counts and the best netcode.

So how exactly would it work when you throw upload speeds into the mix, which are much lower than the already low download speeds? Not great.

Onlive might work for playing singleplayer games if you have a better than average broadband connection. But for multiplayer, it's just not going to work.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 8:11PM Darthus said

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Posted: Jul 10th 2010 4:17AM Rocketman36 said

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@Darthus I'm fairly sure It can't be accurately measured, You can come to a average Input lag but there are many other variables to consider.
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Posted: Jul 9th 2010 8:52PM Undying said

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Pay for things i can't own? How about no.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 9:09PM BronzGot the BLOWGUN said

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@Nintari Phantom!!!! thats it...i couldnt for the life of me remember what Onlive version 1 was called.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 9:36PM Hayseboi said

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Silly OnLive, Change is for Obama.

Posted: Jul 9th 2010 10:09PM meatee said

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I played Borderlands on OnLive the first day I got my invite for a couple hours, and wasn't terribly impressed. The biggest downfall is (and will always be with things like this) the controller lag. After a while I had trained myself to lead my shots enough to be effective, but I really don't feel like treating every gun in the game like its a slow rocket launcher in order to shoot a guy 10 feet away with a pistol, and god knows I would hate playing multiplayer on this thing (I didn't even attempt that).

Posted: Jul 10th 2010 12:12AM Tac Error said

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How in the hell will mods work with this system?

Posted: Jul 10th 2010 1:35AM dariusdetiger said

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My friend was in the beta so he had it running last night. He loaded up FEAR 2 and I asked to just move the mouse around a little bit. Yup.. input lag. Completely ruins FPS games, sorry :\

Posted: Jul 10th 2010 4:14AM Rocketman36 said

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Well realistically a Solar Flare at one of On-lives Hubs would destroy everything. I predict 2013 :)

P.s. If you don't know what I'm talking about learn some science, and make me a turkey sandwich

Posted: Jul 10th 2010 12:42PM golfs4panzys said

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I'm in the Founding Members deal and although the technology is cool, it isn't ready yet. Maybe in the next 5-10 years when our infrastructure is better it will be a viable service but I don't see the target as of right now. I can't imagine hardcore gamers such as myself using this service. I can't imagine many casual gamers paying a subscription fee either...

The graphics aren't great (probably running on medium settings on average), there is noticeable input delay even on the best connection and the pricing is way too steep at the moment. I ran onlive at my friends place the other day to show him and his roommate the service and their internet connection was running slow because his roommate was uploading a video to youtube. What did that mean for me? I couldn't even play the demo because the lag was so bad.

What I find odd is how they love to show Crysis at their tech demos and talk about running Crysis on these ridiculous devices (iPod,iPad) and Crysis isn't even in the marketplace to play... I actually have Crysis and is the only somewhat recent PC game I would be able to compare PC vs OnLive experience. I find it hard to imagine it running Crysis on anything more than medium settings and my 5 year old PC can do that.

For the record. My internet connection is 15 down 2 up. The average US internet speed is 5.1/1.1
http://www.speedmatters.org/content/2009report

Again, the tech is cool and maybe it is part of "the future of gaming" but we're not there yet.

Posted: Jul 11th 2010 1:19AM Jacksy said

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I think I would rather use that money on a physical copy of a game, or buy the game for my consoles since they have exclusives and dont require internet to work.

Posted: Jul 12th 2010 12:12PM BIGGEN said

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i signed up for the founding members (at the time i was waiting on the new 360 cause i sold my old one) and got on the waiting list. within a week i got in and the next year is free. i have yet to use it because i don't want to have to wire up my computer just to play. but hell, it's free, so i'm gonna use it when the micro console comes out. i don't see me picking it over my 360 or ps3, but it's a nice alternative option and as a gamer, i love options. i don't get all the hate.

Posted: Jul 14th 2010 11:35AM shard765 said

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I think the idea is awesome. It potentially could change everything. Imagine next gen consoles that are actually cheap to buy but offer a subscription to play games ala netflix. And with hardware on server side you would always have the best looking game possible. No more buying new consoles every 5 years. The only issue here I see is peoples internet speed. Thats gonna be the bottle neck that could choke the whole concept. And I think we're still a good 10 years away from going completely digital. But great idea. Now only if I could sign into my freaking OnLive account without getting an error! ARRGHH!

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