Team Fortress 2 Engineer update now available

@Heck Guy 4th level Sentry Gun would be seriously overpowered. The current level 3 sentries are able to make you skyrocket the other direction as soon as you get close, making them hard enough to destroy already. And with the remote-control thingy for sentries, they get a 75% damage reducing shield and manual targeting, I think they'll be enough of a challenge.

@noyesa

Valve is done with 360, so far as this game is concerned. I'm holding out hope that, with Steamworks integration on PS3, we'll get a re-release there in the form of a downloadable title. I don't think they can do much with the Orange Box version that was released previously, but with an updated Source Engine for the PS3, maybe they'll release it again?!

I'd gladly pay $20 for TF2 on the PS3, with full Steamworks integration and free DLC. Gladly.

@noyesa

i wonder what it would cost lol, 30 dollars?

@noyesa
They're not going to. They want it to be free, but Microsoft wants them to charge for the content (so they get royalty fees). So they're been trying to figure out a way to release chunks at a time for a reasonable price.

Also, when the game was "fairly" new, there weren't that many people playing online. Is this game still alive on Xbox?

Also, yet more proof of the decline of PC gaming.

@Themoreyouknow
"Also, yet more proof of the decline of PC gaming. "
What?

@noyesa

Valve has stated that the updates won't work on any console because there's not enough RAM to store everything during the game.

@TheGrandHero

I thought they fixed that issue a while ago.

They've been saying they'll try to get the 360 update out once the Engie update releases, so we might at least have a chance now. I don't have much hope at this point, but just maybe...

@TheGrandHero Not entirely sure that was ever an issue. Doesn't sound likely in any case.

@Themoreyouknow The online community for this game has shrunk considerably. Valve was apparently robbed of the ability to cultivate a community out of it by Microsoft's meddlings. I've read in interviews that Valve regretted using the Xbox Live system to host the game rather than their own since Microsoft had their grimy hands in everything. Also, the Ranked matches are non-existent because you can't join a game after it started. There are plenty of player matches though.

The fact that Microsoft wants to charge for DLC hasn't deterred Valve. They said they were simply going to wait until they felt like they had enough content to make it worth the cost. As far as I can tell the nonsense about the Xbox 360 hardware being incapable of running the update is a rumor, I haven't seen anything from Valve about that.

At this point I fear the Xbox 360 community is too small to support, but isn't going to grow without that support. So it will probably just die out. That's the thing about console games that publishers like Activision love--they die out after a year so you have to go by the next marginally improved COD sequel to continue playing. That's why the borked the PC MW2, for example.

@noyesa I rescind what I said about the memory limit. My bad!

@ilduce620

hell, i would gladly pay $60 for a working TF2 with all the updates and steamworks on PS3.

@Themoreyouknow

Wait... how does Valve not updating the 360 version of this spell the fall of pc gaming?

Did I miss something?

@Themoreyouknow

I don't believe that for a second. If they really wanted to release content for free, they would just patch it in like Criterion did for "Burnout Paradise". Either they're using that as an excuse, or they do want some money for it, just they don't want to seem money-hungry.

@Dr

THIS

@Dr

I tried this last night, and it reverts your sentry back to lvl 1.

Also, everyone and their Mom is now an Engineer. Bring Demos if you go online today! It's Demo Heaven.

@Wiizer This is not true. It just needs time to slowly rebuild itself.

@Wiizer

Yeah the guy above me is right. It will build up to level 3 when it's done.

@SubEngy

Well, yeah, it is true that it reverts back to level one... just forgot to include that it builds itself back up, XD

@Wiizer Well, regardless, I see it as way more useful in the case of teleports anyway. Having to move those things up when you got a forward spawn was always really annoying.

@Ezio Auditore da Firenze You will LOVE this update then - was playing last night, teamed-up engineers are freakishly powerful.

One engineer uses the wrangler to control the sentry (effectively triples the HP of the gun, and fires twice as fast, but you must manually target) while another one refuels the gun. Epic.

@Sidebuster Yes. http://www.joystiq.com/2010/07/07/team-fortress-2-engineer-update-day-2-the-wrangler/

@Milky1985 Yeah just one. I played yesterday and it was so much fun. Just put up a ninja sentry somewhere and BAM, 2-3 Kills, then 4-6 crits with the shotty = best offensive engineer update ever.

@Joeybeast

This was the last class that needed updating.