As part of a Develop Conference talk on the lessons learned from developing Kinect Sports, Rare Talent Director Nick Burton showed a short video of the near-final version of Kinect Sports' soccer mini-game. The clip shows how control jumps between different teammates as the player passes the ball, with the Xbox 360 AI controlling player movement automatically (a la Wii Sports tennis). Check it out after the jump.
Reader Comments (48)
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:03PM Padilla7921 said
Nice "Pele" on words right there.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:03PM Ezio Auditore da Firenze said
Press X to Pele?
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:06PM MarkezJM said
Also the name of a swell instrumental band!
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:08PM DocBooch said
What is this garbage? The player just stands there and tries to, what, block a kick to the next teammate? Then, he does the same thing after the AI scores? This has to be the lamest game I have ever seen.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 6:28PM The angry pro consumer gaming ga said
@(Unverified) Another fat American douche making fun of soccer, what else is new?
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Posted: Jul 14th 2010 9:06PM Mal F4cti0n said
@The angry pro consumer gaming ga
Dude....I've been to Europe numerous times (Athens, London, Brussels, Stuttgart, Cern, Garmisch) and Australia (Adelaide) once. I saw way more fat people over there than I do here at home, in the States. The teenager girls to twenty something over in Europe, especially in Greece and Brussels, were almost all overweight.
I work in Rosslyn (right outside of Washington, DC) and I almost get in car accidents all the time because some hot ass American girl with a great ass is walking down the sidewalk. Don't believe everything you hear. The majority of the obesity problem in this country come from the really poor and the minorities. The really poor can't afford to eat anything else other than McDonalds and the minorities have bad eating habits (like the hispanics) they bring from their homeland.
And yeah, soccer is really boring to watch to those who have no vested interest. 95% of the time when they get in scoring position they don't shoot or they miss the net by a freaking mile. maybe if you saw the goalies work harder it would be more interesting. You only see one good save, maybe two, a game. All of the other shots are a mile away from the goal or right at the goalie. And the reffing is horrible. Most frustrating sport to watch in the world.
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Dude....I've been to Europe numerous times (Athens, London, Brussels, Stuttgart, Cern, Garmisch) and Australia (Adelaide) once. I saw way more fat people over there than I do here at home, in the States. The teenager girls to twenty something over in Europe, especially in Greece and Brussels, were almost all overweight.
I work in Rosslyn (right outside of Washington, DC) and I almost get in car accidents all the time because some hot ass American girl with a great ass is walking down the sidewalk. Don't believe everything you hear. The majority of the obesity problem in this country come from the really poor and the minorities. The really poor can't afford to eat anything else other than McDonalds and the minorities have bad eating habits (like the hispanics) they bring from their homeland.
And yeah, soccer is really boring to watch to those who have no vested interest. 95% of the time when they get in scoring position they don't shoot or they miss the net by a freaking mile. maybe if you saw the goalies work harder it would be more interesting. You only see one good save, maybe two, a game. All of the other shots are a mile away from the goal or right at the goalie. And the reffing is horrible. Most frustrating sport to watch in the world.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 11:18PM DocBooch said
@Mal F4cti0n Dude, I hope you realize how racist your retort is. To say that the majority of fat people come from minorities is not only bigotry at it's finest but lumping a whole social structure and culture into a stereotype. Comments like that is what is wrong in the world.
I'm not saying his comment was any better. The stereotypical American viewpoint is why we no longer have the World Trade Center.
I'm sure if he dumped on American football or baseball, there would be a multitude of comments calling him a smelly European or some other dumb thing.
This game is not Soccer. It isn't even Foosball. At least with Foosball you can move your group of players back and forth. They should have made it just penalty kicks or something...the power of Kinect. I'm so impressed.
And the damn thing was a lag fest, you could tell from the body motion of the real player and the lag from when the ball was kicked.....the poor guy couldn't even respond to the AI fast enough.
What an absolute joke.
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I'm not saying his comment was any better. The stereotypical American viewpoint is why we no longer have the World Trade Center.
I'm sure if he dumped on American football or baseball, there would be a multitude of comments calling him a smelly European or some other dumb thing.
This game is not Soccer. It isn't even Foosball. At least with Foosball you can move your group of players back and forth. They should have made it just penalty kicks or something...the power of Kinect. I'm so impressed.
And the damn thing was a lag fest, you could tell from the body motion of the real player and the lag from when the ball was kicked.....the poor guy couldn't even respond to the AI fast enough.
What an absolute joke.
Posted: Jul 15th 2010 9:21AM GQ1980 said
@DocBooch
That is pretty much how all scored based, team games pan out isn't it?
Take basketball for example. The silly high scores indicate that that it is just as you've described it.
However, I do agree, this game looks pants. Games like football (or soccer if you must), basketball etc have an element of flair to them. This game does not appear to.
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That is pretty much how all scored based, team games pan out isn't it?
Take basketball for example. The silly high scores indicate that that it is just as you've described it.
However, I do agree, this game looks pants. Games like football (or soccer if you must), basketball etc have an element of flair to them. This game does not appear to.
Posted: Jul 15th 2010 9:53AM GQ1980 said
@Mal F4cti0n
I love your post, I genuinely do.
To generalize the entirety of Europe, which consist of 47 member countries, is rather impressive. It also comes over as rather hypocritical coming from a a resident of America, which is documented for its obesity problems.
The rest of the post is equally sumptuous first, highlighting issues with the welfare system and creating a class divide, then going on to state that hispanics have bad lifestyle choices introduced from their homeland (again, this might come over as somewhat hypocritical).
Ignorance is bliss eh?
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I love your post, I genuinely do.
To generalize the entirety of Europe, which consist of 47 member countries, is rather impressive. It also comes over as rather hypocritical coming from a a resident of America, which is documented for its obesity problems.
The rest of the post is equally sumptuous first, highlighting issues with the welfare system and creating a class divide, then going on to state that hispanics have bad lifestyle choices introduced from their homeland (again, this might come over as somewhat hypocritical).
Ignorance is bliss eh?
Posted: Jul 15th 2010 12:42PM DocBooch said
@GQ1980 Well said my friend. I cringed reading his post.
And for the record, I'm not a fan of football, be it american or the I guess worldwide version. I'm more of a hockey and baseball fan....or for you UK brothers.....rounders.
To dissolve any sport into one function of it is very shallow. Wii sports baseball is just that. You pitch and hit, you don't even run the bases or field. These games are not my cup of tea....maybe the old ladies in nursing homes will enjoy it.
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And for the record, I'm not a fan of football, be it american or the I guess worldwide version. I'm more of a hockey and baseball fan....or for you UK brothers.....rounders.
To dissolve any sport into one function of it is very shallow. Wii sports baseball is just that. You pitch and hit, you don't even run the bases or field. These games are not my cup of tea....maybe the old ladies in nursing homes will enjoy it.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:08PM aborkle said
VIDEO FAIL
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:09PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
Looks terrible. The problem with all these Kinect games (mostly sports ones) is that there is no avatar movement beyond gestures. How many soccer games have you seen where everyone is stationary? Can't believe Pele would put his name on that garbage. This is why you need some kind of buttons and control sticks!
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:13PM Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell said
@Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell
Never mind ... Pele was just a pun and isn't associated with the title.
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Never mind ... Pele was just a pun and isn't associated with the title.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 6:07PM Dusse said
@Johnnynumber5 is powered by cell
Actually, he puts his name on even worse stuff..
http://academyofchampions.uk.ubi.com/
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Actually, he puts his name on even worse stuff..
http://academyofchampions.uk.ubi.com/
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 6:46PM BlackedOut said
I think the prospect of Kinect has way more to offer than what is shown here. I can already see that the third party offerings are what is going to move the peripheral, Microsoft's offerings have all been lame.
My biggest disappointment from E3 this year was from realising this is what Rare has been working on.
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My biggest disappointment from E3 this year was from realising this is what Rare has been working on.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:10PM Grey said
Wow. That has to be the worst gameplay footage of a soccer game that I have ever seen. Casual or not, does Microsoft really think this is what people want?
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 7:00PM Alphathon said
@Grey
As someone who hates football (soccer) and watching sports in general, I have to say I would rather watch the real thing played by amateurs who I had never met and had absolutely no connection with for 90 minutes* than play this. It's almost Big Rigs bad...wait no, that at least falls into the so bad it's funny category. This is just tragic.
Seriously Microsoft, dump the Rare title from your dev - it isn't doing anything but make gamers angry.
*Do football games last 90 minutes? I think they do, but I'm not exactly knowledgeable on the subject.
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As someone who hates football (soccer) and watching sports in general, I have to say I would rather watch the real thing played by amateurs who I had never met and had absolutely no connection with for 90 minutes* than play this. It's almost Big Rigs bad...wait no, that at least falls into the so bad it's funny category. This is just tragic.
Seriously Microsoft, dump the Rare title from your dev - it isn't doing anything but make gamers angry.
*Do football games last 90 minutes? I think they do, but I'm not exactly knowledgeable on the subject.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:10PM 2Slick said
as if i needed another reason not to buy kinect sports w/ my kinect this november.......bring on the dancing and the fitness!!!!
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:24PM Pennegan said
I try to support Kinect, but that was very lame. :-\
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:27PM The MARIO said
That video was painful to watch!
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:28PM Ample Salty said
Pele is King of the soccer field. To be King of your Xbox, use Kinect.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:30PM Omnistatic said
1.. 1 failure of a soccer game! Ah ha ha ha!
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:32PM liquidsoap89 said
That looks like SO MUCH FUN!
Standing still kicking a ball >>> running around kicking a ball...
Standing still kicking a ball >>> running around kicking a ball...
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:32PM zefur said
@TheMCFacemanBandcampcom
They would play better then England did
They would play better then England did
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:37PM blueskyv201 said
There is a reason why I play shooters and adventure games. Because if I were start shooting random people on the street or go looking for a lost treasure, I'd probably end up in jail or dead. I cant just go outside and experience those things in real life.
But this? Why the f*ck would anyone waste their time playing this atrocity.
But this? Why the f*ck would anyone waste their time playing this atrocity.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:41PM gevenstaines said
it might be as good one one of the wii sports. the video was aweful tho.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 5:57PM JazzyMUHFUHKINGGeoff said
whilst that does look pretty turd at least there is some potential there.
It appears you can do a kick action which is read by the machine
so all they need to do now is make everything about that game about 100 times better and then they might have something that is just a bit lame and not utterly toilet
It appears you can do a kick action which is read by the machine
so all they need to do now is make everything about that game about 100 times better and then they might have something that is just a bit lame and not utterly toilet
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 6:18PM onlysublime said
the only thing interesting in soccer is the shot on goal and this is what this minigame is about. one player is the goalie and the other person is the shooter.
the interesting scenario is this: you play side by side. what if you kick the ball toward the goal so that it forces the person next to you to jump into you? the result would be crazier than twister. so if the goalie has to jump left to block the ball and the person who kicked the ball is standing to the left side of the goalie player, I can imagine knocking heads or worse.
anyhow, soccer should remain a sport for the kids. the world cup finale was a snoozefest. there was like barely any time left and Spain was not playing with any urgency and just dribbling back and forth. And even the goal they won on was boring.
but i think the best use of this soccer 1-on-1 is the online play. i love to see if people could shoot the ball by me. when i was a kid, i was a pretty good goalie. i got good because i didn't want to run all over the field. :)
the interesting scenario is this: you play side by side. what if you kick the ball toward the goal so that it forces the person next to you to jump into you? the result would be crazier than twister. so if the goalie has to jump left to block the ball and the person who kicked the ball is standing to the left side of the goalie player, I can imagine knocking heads or worse.
anyhow, soccer should remain a sport for the kids. the world cup finale was a snoozefest. there was like barely any time left and Spain was not playing with any urgency and just dribbling back and forth. And even the goal they won on was boring.
but i think the best use of this soccer 1-on-1 is the online play. i love to see if people could shoot the ball by me. when i was a kid, i was a pretty good goalie. i got good because i didn't want to run all over the field. :)
Posted: Jul 15th 2010 2:06PM phizzyphizzy said
@onlysublime Online play? For Kinect games? There's enough lag on the input side of things, you'd probably have to wait five seconds or so to see if the other player managed to save the goal.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2010 6:23PM Cuddlefish said
That video was more exciting than any real soccer game I've seen...
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 7:18PM irotmx said
@Cuddlefish So you have watched only 1 game I guess? Try looking for the Germany vs. Uruguay highlithts to know what real soccer matches are like.
About the game...utter garbage, I don't know why they wanted to show this if it's (hopefully) not finished and polished yet.
I know it's the first gen games of kineckt...but... really????
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About the game...utter garbage, I don't know why they wanted to show this if it's (hopefully) not finished and polished yet.
I know it's the first gen games of kineckt...but... really????
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 6:35PM JPASO said
Yo, wtf was that,,, I havent seen a new gen game that bad ever,,, i'll rather play the wii
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 7:03PM KillaPat said
@zefur
Snap.
Snap.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 7:07PM Nekki said
I think this is the first time i've ever laughed at a game for being so bad (because there's no way this can be good...)
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 7:35PM Lagunamov said
That was the worst thing I have ever seen...
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 7:51PM incredibilistic said
The problem with Kinect games like this is that you're not really "interacting" with the game as much as you're helping it. The ball moves DIRECTLY at your feet and you're given 2 to 3 seconds to react.
So by Microsoft's standings I'm supposed to "get off the couch" so I can stand there and wait for the game to give me commands.
And that's worth $150 + $60
So by Microsoft's standings I'm supposed to "get off the couch" so I can stand there and wait for the game to give me commands.
And that's worth $150 + $60
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 8:33PM FINALBOSS said
I literally laughed out loud.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 8:37PM JamesHks said
I don't understand why you can't just play this with a controller in one hand to move your character around...
honestly, kinect would benefit ALOT from having a controller in each hand, if they just made what would essentially be an xbox controller split in half. but then it would look like move, and people would bitch. but just think of the possibilities!
honestly, kinect would benefit ALOT from having a controller in each hand, if they just made what would essentially be an xbox controller split in half. but then it would look like move, and people would bitch. but just think of the possibilities!
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 9:39PM miacosa said
Why do all these Kinect games have watermelon headed characters in the.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 10:43PM Korova Pamplona said
I suspect and hope that this was just a demo of the auto focus switch and not of the whole game. The player does not appear to defend in any way or dribble. I cant imagine they would think people would not be insulted to receive such a game.
Or maybe this is the North Korean soccer league 2010.
Or maybe this is the North Korean soccer league 2010.
Posted: Jul 14th 2010 11:55PM TechRyze said
Needs a NavCon!
Posted: Jul 15th 2010 8:40AM Tuxy79 said
This looks TERRIBLE.
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