PSA: Bad Company 2 Steam owners have access to Medal of Honor beta ... right now!
by Ben Gilbert 
on Jul 15th 2010 10:00PM
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 10:10PM Rosinkrans said
Thank you DICE.... Thank you Steam.... I love you!
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 10:13PM quackdocter said
i am debating if i should buy this on ps3 or steam since both have exclusive content for each one.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 1:19AM Ballistic H said
@quackdocter
The PS3 will be the only one to have MoH: Frontline remixed in HD. Other than that, all have the same features.
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The PS3 will be the only one to have MoH: Frontline remixed in HD. Other than that, all have the same features.
Posted: Jul 16th 2010 1:23AM quackdocter said
@Ballistic H the steam version has exclusive guns
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 1:30AM Ballistic H said
@quackdocter
http://store.steampowered.com/app/47790/
You mean the MP7 and the 2 shotguns? They're also available on Limited Editions accross all platforms.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/47790/
You mean the MP7 and the 2 shotguns? They're also available on Limited Editions accross all platforms.
Posted: Jul 16th 2010 1:31AM quackdocter said
@Ballistic H ps3 it is than, although i wasnt to happy about the beta but its a beta so ill give it another try in a couple of months.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 1:37AM Ballistic H said
@acme64
I got 2 Beta invites by email from EA. did you guys registered an EA account?
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I got 2 Beta invites by email from EA. did you guys registered an EA account?
Posted: Jul 15th 2010 10:22PM Cheesus Crust said
You could use those old C&C4 beta codes for this like a month ago. They were dime a dozen.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 11:19PM GOODKyle said
Or for people who don't have a steam account can still get a MoH beta for free here. Totally legit!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oCn2TW1V_Y
Than watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZTgQw0acfs
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oCn2TW1V_Y
Than watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZTgQw0acfs
Posted: Jul 16th 2010 12:21AM sear said
I'll probably get downvoted for this, but honestly, Medal of Honor is not very good. Yes, I know it's a beta, and yes, it's a prerelease, but frankly I don't think that DICE have the aptitude for making a twitch shooter. DICE's Battlefield games have always been about wide-open levels with lots of players and vehicles, and the feel of the games on an infantry level has always been extremely janky, to say the least. With Battlefield 2 it became serviceable, and with Bad Company, it actually became enjoyable, but the shooting has still never felt as responsive, fluid, or accurate as it needs to be in a game that focuses solely on shooting.
With lots of vehicles flying and driving around, and a large number of players on an open map, this is forgivable. When you try to build a fast-paced deathmatch game on top of an engine that simply isn't designed for it... you're bound to run into problems. Predictably, Medal of Honor feels laggy in the extreme - everything from firing weapons to throwing grenades to ducking behind cover feels off, and it really boils down to the netcode, which DICE just don't do as well as their competitors at Infinity Ward, Epic, or Valve. There is a constant strange disconnect between what you try to do in the game and what you actually end up doing - fire a round at someone's head and it magically passes through them, hide behind a wall before you come under fire and you end up dead anyway, and so on.
And, no, to those who will inevitably shout "you just suck" at me, I don't. I'm not a professional player, but I've been playing PC shooters for close to twenty years and I know my way around them well enough to tell when it's my fault and when it's the game's fault. In almost every instance, when playing Medal of Honor, it's the game's fault, and that's just not a solid first impression for a game to make, especially when it immediately performs in a vastly inferior manner to its direct competition.
Combine that with drab, boring visuals and strangely unexciting menus and audio, and you have a winning combination for mediocrity. I honestly don't see how this beta is going to sell many copies, because to me, it just feels like a much weaker version of Bad Company, with fewer features and new weapon models.
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With lots of vehicles flying and driving around, and a large number of players on an open map, this is forgivable. When you try to build a fast-paced deathmatch game on top of an engine that simply isn't designed for it... you're bound to run into problems. Predictably, Medal of Honor feels laggy in the extreme - everything from firing weapons to throwing grenades to ducking behind cover feels off, and it really boils down to the netcode, which DICE just don't do as well as their competitors at Infinity Ward, Epic, or Valve. There is a constant strange disconnect between what you try to do in the game and what you actually end up doing - fire a round at someone's head and it magically passes through them, hide behind a wall before you come under fire and you end up dead anyway, and so on.
And, no, to those who will inevitably shout "you just suck" at me, I don't. I'm not a professional player, but I've been playing PC shooters for close to twenty years and I know my way around them well enough to tell when it's my fault and when it's the game's fault. In almost every instance, when playing Medal of Honor, it's the game's fault, and that's just not a solid first impression for a game to make, especially when it immediately performs in a vastly inferior manner to its direct competition.
Combine that with drab, boring visuals and strangely unexciting menus and audio, and you have a winning combination for mediocrity. I honestly don't see how this beta is going to sell many copies, because to me, it just feels like a much weaker version of Bad Company, with fewer features and new weapon models.
Posted: Jul 16th 2010 12:33AM Tradio said
@sear
I agree with you 100%. A very disappointing beta. Very strange that they have dubbed this as a MW 2 killer because all it is, is a water-downed version of BC 2. BC 2 is an actual MW 2 killer, MoH multilayer is not even in the same league. Graphics are very amateurish, especially for a DX11 game. Good post sear. Like you, I am very disappointed with what I am seeing. The reviews will not be favorable on the multi-player side for MoH.
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I agree with you 100%. A very disappointing beta. Very strange that they have dubbed this as a MW 2 killer because all it is, is a water-downed version of BC 2. BC 2 is an actual MW 2 killer, MoH multilayer is not even in the same league. Graphics are very amateurish, especially for a DX11 game. Good post sear. Like you, I am very disappointed with what I am seeing. The reviews will not be favorable on the multi-player side for MoH.
Posted: Jul 16th 2010 12:46AM sear said
@Tradio
I'm not so sure that the game will actually suffer for it, though. It seems like simply making a brown, modern military shooter is enough to ensure retail success, and therefore justify the investments of stockholders. No offence to the great guys at DICE, but I'd love to see Medal of Honor fail just to help get the games industry from the current "aesthetics are the only thing of consequence" rut that it's in, at least on the publisher side of things.
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I'm not so sure that the game will actually suffer for it, though. It seems like simply making a brown, modern military shooter is enough to ensure retail success, and therefore justify the investments of stockholders. No offence to the great guys at DICE, but I'd love to see Medal of Honor fail just to help get the games industry from the current "aesthetics are the only thing of consequence" rut that it's in, at least on the publisher side of things.
Posted: Jul 16th 2010 9:08AM (Unverified) said
@sear So they managed worse netcode than Infinity Ward, who basically ported their Xbox Live tripe onto the PC? That's foreboding, because MW2 plays like living shit.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 1:18AM liquidsoap89 said
Well so far... From what I played. It's Modern Warfare gameplay with Battlefield structure (level layouts, objectives, ribbons n such). And it was WAY better than I was expecting!
There's tons of destructible stuff (which I assumed would be absent), seeing ribbons and medals pop up always makes me happy, the score bar thing above the crosshair isn't as distracting as I was expecting, and most important of all... THE LEVELS ARE LAID OUT REALLY WELL! I can't stand playing COD and having some random dude kill me from behind, half the kills in that game are all unexpected. I don't know if all the gamemodes in MOH will be like this one, but having the objective, and making the levels longer, but narrower makes for WAY more entertaining gun fights!
So far in the half hour I've played, I think I could say with some certainty that I like this more than COD.
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There's tons of destructible stuff (which I assumed would be absent), seeing ribbons and medals pop up always makes me happy, the score bar thing above the crosshair isn't as distracting as I was expecting, and most important of all... THE LEVELS ARE LAID OUT REALLY WELL! I can't stand playing COD and having some random dude kill me from behind, half the kills in that game are all unexpected. I don't know if all the gamemodes in MOH will be like this one, but having the objective, and making the levels longer, but narrower makes for WAY more entertaining gun fights!
So far in the half hour I've played, I think I could say with some certainty that I like this more than COD.
Posted: Jul 16th 2010 1:25AM liquidsoap89 said
@liquidsoap89
But not to give MOH too much credit... So far the menus need improvement (like... Immediately), there was just something about the way they're laid out, or how you work with them that doesn't work for me. I think it's the buttons. For example, in TF2 (and all of Valve's games for that matter, in the graphics tab, you click an option (like texture detail), it opens a box, and you choose the level (low, med, high etc.). In MOH it's the lame old "click the arrow left or right to choose the setting" and it just doesn't feel right on a pc.
And not being able to exit a game when a round ends is EXTREMELY WRONG! Maybe I'm dumb and there is a way (doubt it), but I couldn't find a way to exit a game when a. The round ended or b. I died and was sitting at the class choosing screen.
But still, so far I'm liking it quite a bit.
Any word on how long this goes on for?
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But not to give MOH too much credit... So far the menus need improvement (like... Immediately), there was just something about the way they're laid out, or how you work with them that doesn't work for me. I think it's the buttons. For example, in TF2 (and all of Valve's games for that matter, in the graphics tab, you click an option (like texture detail), it opens a box, and you choose the level (low, med, high etc.). In MOH it's the lame old "click the arrow left or right to choose the setting" and it just doesn't feel right on a pc.
And not being able to exit a game when a round ends is EXTREMELY WRONG! Maybe I'm dumb and there is a way (doubt it), but I couldn't find a way to exit a game when a. The round ended or b. I died and was sitting at the class choosing screen.
But still, so far I'm liking it quite a bit.
Any word on how long this goes on for?
Posted: Jul 16th 2010 10:55AM Deschain said
@Nadril
And they still refuse to add prone. and you cane use "q" or "e" (strafe) while sprinting. Already deal breakers for me. But the HORRIBLE hit detection is the final straw. I shot a guy standing still 5 times with a sniper rifle. He just ran away while I was reloading...
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And they still refuse to add prone. and you cane use "q" or "e" (strafe) while sprinting. Already deal breakers for me. But the HORRIBLE hit detection is the final straw. I shot a guy standing still 5 times with a sniper rifle. He just ran away while I was reloading...
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