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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 8:12PM Acosta02 said

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I'll assume no stars due to the monetary focus? Classy.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 8:46PM AutobotIronhide said

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Maybe a DLC only thing.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 9:11PM Acosta02 said

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@AutobotIronhide

Could be, could be.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 9:12PM Drew327 said

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I love Leliana's voice acting!
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 9:13PM Drew327 said

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@Drew327 Upon further reflection of the pricing, I would pay 7 bucks to hear her talk some more!
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 2:00AM Pokeriser said

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@Drew327
o.O You mean that annoying french accent?
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 2:16AM Drew327 said

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@Pokeriser you forgot fake-sounding! HOT!
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 10:11PM onan said

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"Tug the Dwarf" sounds like the type of maneuver I'm far too young to know about.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 10:14PM onan said

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Hey Chris, Is Leliana's Song worth the cost of buying that plus Return to Ostagar? ;)
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 10:37PM (Unverified) said

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@onan Return to Ostagar isn't all that great, really. Its just a lot of combat. If you started Dragon Age recently, it might be nice to have. You get some good equipment and some vengence for what occurred at Ostagar.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 11:29AM onan said

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Actually, I was just teasing, if I'm not mistaken, on the podcast Chris admitted he accidentally purchased Return to Ostagar while trying to download this latest DLC for review.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 5:43PM TheDarkWayne said

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@(Unverified) that was a joke because in lasts weeks podcast Chris accidentally bought Return to Ostagar when he meant to buy Leliana
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 10:40PM Verrier said

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Leliana wasn't in my Dragon Age game.

Apparently she was in the first town you pass in, in some building. Of course if you're like me and don't look inside every building in every village you find, you would just go through the village which is then destroyed and never have a major character in your party.

In a character-based game, that's some exceptionally bad game design right there.

It's the equivalent of missing a team member in ME2 because you had to go down an optional side corridor to find him or her. It's one thing to let you have the option of recruiting team members, and quite another to make it so that on the default main quest you'll never actually see them unless you go out of the way looking into every corner.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 10:50PM (Unverified) said

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@Verrier The context of how you join the character justifies the approach they used. If you haven't seen it, you probably should play it again. Hell, its an RPG, so only playing once is really doing it wrong.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 10:50PM (Unverified) said

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@(Unverified) ERP DERP DERP, stupid me, how the character joins you.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 11:48PM Verrier said

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Playing Dragon Age MORE than once? Are you kidding me?

I spent 30 hours playing through it once and already felt I was wasting my time. Of all the RPGs I've played this generation, DAO has by far the worst combat, worst story, worst visuals and audio, and of course the most unoriginal and tedious characters, setting and premise one can imagine.

Alistair! He tries to be funny and fails! That's a good enough premise for a character, right? And he was one of the better ones.

After the amazing Mass Effect games, I couldn't have been more disappointed in Bioware. Slogging through combat more tedious than dungeons and dragons dice rolling for 100 hours to get slightly shinier armor is something that should remain confined to the idiocy of World of Warcraft, and not present itself in a lamer form in a Bioware RPG.
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Posted: Jul 15th 2010 11:56PM Rentaro said

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@Verrier

In the game, Morrigan specifically said to check the local tavern for information. Guess where Lelianna happens to be
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 12:21AM (Unverified) said

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@Verrier Fair enough, DAO wasn't your cup of tea. But the principle behind it, that RPGs you enjoy are good because you can play them out different ways to see different results remains true.

It had some weaknesses, but I found DAO to be quite a fun game. I actually cleared it 6 times, including the Awakening add on. And you liked Alistair? I think he came across as having a schizophrenic duality personality. That became apparent from multiple playthroughs. He had a high tendency to bitch, even when you do what he wants you to do.

SPOILERS










Know near the end of the game? If you decide Loghain should live, Alistair says no, he'll be king, and he'll kill Loghain. So, you think, sure I'll back him on that. Then, after Loghain lies dead, he says "Why did you make me king? Didn't you know I didn't want to be king?"

Er, what the bloody hell is this lunatic on about? Of course, you could point the blame at bioware, and thats probably justified. Its either blame Bioware on bad character creation, or figure Alistair is just pure nuts.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 3:00AM cowthulhu said

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@Verrier Thought it was a great game with your decisions actually affecting the game world and very well-drawn characters, each with their own agenda of helping you out.. -shrug- Graphics could have been better but no complaints.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 1:37AM (Unverified) said

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@WINterfang I don't agree with the comparison either, but its a recurring theme I have encountered in lots of comment boxes and forums, so it seems to be an ingrained notion for a lot of people, so I can't really object to its usage in the article.

That whole pointing out the French for the Orlesians, on the other hand, was pointless. Suspension of disbelief requires not using real life illustrations for fantasy worlds/cultures/peoples. It adds nothing to the article, and only brings to question if the article writer was capable of enjoying DAO in the first place. Maybe I'm making too big a deal of it, I'm just going off tendencies I have noted.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 1:48AM mocax said

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no new items?
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 3:04AM Brinstar said

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I don't think $6.99 is at all a bad price for DLC like this. Still going to get it at some point, as I like Leliana as a character.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 4:10AM ch3burashka said

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Could you please invent a new rating system for DLC, just for kicks? Or just manifest your impressions in a crude drawing?
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 11:36AM (Unverified) said

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@ch3burashka Yeah, reading articles is hard!
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 12:12PM Rukishou said

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If you don't care about Leliana or feel you're finished with the game, you don't have to buy the DLC - it's optional. If you think you're missing canon stuff, think about every character's childhood - you "missed" those too even though they're obviously canon.

Just for the record, I think all DLC are canon except the expansion pack Awakening - unless perhaps you're playing that Orlesian Grey Warden.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 2:12PM IanC said

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@Rukishou Surely Awakening is more canon than Darkspawn Chronicles? :p
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 1:18PM jsx92 said

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Even if they were comparable, movie ticket prices are overboard, and a lot of people complains about $10+ for a 2 hour movie. So why is then that when people value their entertainment budget they equate $10 with two hours? What an odd paradox.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 2:07PM IanC said

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I honestly have enjoyed every bit of DLC for Dragon Age. I preferred this one to the previous stand alone DLC though (Darkspawn Chronicles)
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 2:10PM IanC said

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I honestly have enjoyed every bit of DLC for Dragon Age. I preferred this one to the previous stand alone DLC though (Darkspawn Chronicles)
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 2:18PM onan said

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You're missing the point, he was trying to indicate he had built up an idea in his head of what Orlais must be like based off of the french accents he had heard throughout DA:O and was looking forward to visiting it and seeing the differences in architecture and all of that. That it ended up just being a cash grab by setting the whole thing in Denerim is a real shame.

Let's be real here, the setting in the game, in anything, are influenced by other things. If you hate it so much, please feel free to come up with a better touchstone than referring to Orlais as France in Dragon Age.
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 2:19PM onan said

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If DLC is so different to review, can we get a Buy It / Don't Buy It / Wait for a Sale rating? Everyone loves a bottom line. :)
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Posted: Jul 16th 2010 8:16PM (Unverified) said

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@onan Heres what you do. Buy it and appraise its value yourself, or don't and keep the mystery.
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