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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 3:37PM AutobotIronhide said

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I am extremely surprised by this service. I rented Just Cause 2 expecting a lagfest (Keep in mind, I live in the middle of nowhere [wisconsin]) and there was no lag whatsoever. The only problem I had was the games original glitches, but otherwise flawless. Really hope OnLive works. Wouldn't mind seeing it as an alternative for 360 PS3 and Wii.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 3:59PM WC said

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@AutobotIronhide You say 'rented'... Did you have to pay anything?

I'm trying to figure out how they can make the first year free.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 4:00PM AutobotIronhide said

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No. The only thing I had to pay for was the transaction. The transaction is technically $0.00 but it's a transaction so I had to pay a dollar.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 6:36PM (Unverified) said

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@AutobotIronhide

Sorry to hijack this post but I really need help. I'm trying to cancel my account in onlive, as it hasn't really been working out for me, but I can't find any options to close and remove my card and info. Any help would be appreciated, I don't wanna get slammed for any payments if the company decides to be assholes.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 9:31PM AutobotIronhide said

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@(Unverified)

The company won't, but you can call their number: 1-888-ONLIVE-5
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 3:44PM ThGy007 said

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I'm not quite sure what he's talking about, but it just sounds like more services to pay for...
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 3:44PM ThGy007 said

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wait... I enjoy owning my games too much!!!
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 5:11PM HaL 10000 said

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@ThGy007

So do I. Seriously, even if all gaming platforms were to be discontinued you would still own the hardware and software.

If OnLIve should fail are they going to send you retail copies of every game and additional content you've purchased before they shut down? What is the likely hood that they would even care to do something like that for their customers if they're closing their doors?
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 2:12AM (Unverified) said

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@ThGy007 I hope OnLive does fail. If Ubisoft is anything to go by, gaming could be heading into a terrible future if OnLive becomes the standard. I will stop gaming if I have to be connected to the internet to stream FOOTAGE of a game I PAYED FOR from some random machine six states away.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 5:04AM WilliamNighthawk said

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@(Unverified) You would stop gaming because you can't own the game? Maybe they should give a higher priced subscription and allow user back-ups of content like Sony does for the PSP-Go, sort-of a premium Spotify account. However, if you quit gaming you're one stubborn person. No matter how hard you fight you can't stop the future, even if it has some bad qualities, you have to look for the silver lining (that is gaming will be more widely accessed on multiple devices with quicker ways to download games from the store instead of having to go to a gamestop or play&trade). If you don't change with the future you'll be swallowed up by the past.

Sorry, didn't mean to get philosophical, just woke up, there are points in there I promise.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 3:45PM ThGy007 said

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The above poster cleared things up for me a bit...
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 4:02PM saturn118 said

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I wonder how Onlive would handle an MMO.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 4:12PM AutobotIronhide said

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I've always wondered that too. Hopefully if there is one, it won't have some stupid-ass subscription gimmick/
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 4:32PM Follisimo said

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@saturn118

Considering if it's a pay to play MMO it wouldn't matter what system/service it's on you would be paying.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 5:47PM Faenix said

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@AutobotIronhide

The subscription is for the dev of the MMO, not the service distributing it. So you will ALWAYS have to pay for MMOs, unless otherwise said by the dev/publisher. (Whoever makes it that way :P)
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 6:14PM saturn118 said

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@AutobotIronhide Considering how long the average MMO player plays, the bandwidth required for one would be huge. From what I've heard it needs 2mb downstream or connection (I can't remember which one).
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 4:06PM MarkHawk said

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I like the idea service like a Netflix model. Pay a monthly fee and play all I want. If I got this service all I would ever do is rent titles and that is about it. I wouldn't purchase a game knowing I'd lose it if I stopped paying. A good incentive might be that every 3 months you have the service you get 1 game free. Zune does this with their monthly subscription where each month you get 10 songs DRM free. I want to try this but still on the fence.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 4:13PM Fuska said

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I got into it, but as far as I see there is no way to unsubscribe. I sent an email to them asking them to cancel my account (I don't want a year to go by, me to forget about it, and have it charge me) but I never heard back. Could be better in the CS area.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 4:19PM DeeZeee said

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I got in, I'm going to bust out my MacBook Pro (that sucks for gaming, sorry Steve) and try to play some Just Cause 2 or something...
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 5:07PM ZayCube said

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Does OnLive offer console exclusive games?

I would love to play Uncharted 2 on my PC.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 5:49PM Faenix said

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@ZayCube

Sony would never allow that so thats a big N-O
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 6:59PM DeeZeee said

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@ZayCube That would be awesome...
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 5:31PM Ashkental said

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The fun thing is: They've accepted me but as I live outisde the U.S. I couldn't create an account and test the service, so there goes my chance :(

Even at the distance I live from the U.S. I wanted to see if the service was good enough...
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 8:44AM onan said

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@Ashkental

If you know anyone in the States, get them to sign up for you. The service I'm sure is location agnostic, but the registration form for legal reasons is going to keep you from registering an international address from an international IP.

You can also always try a US-based proxy server.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 5:52PM metamorphic said

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This is basically for people who either don't have consoles or a decent PC, which really doesn't seem like a majority of people to me, at least not those who would actually be interested in gaming at least. It has absolutely no advantages price-wise, and I've seen physical copies sell cheaper, and all you're doing is basically renting the game, as you don't have a physical copy to begin with. This whole thing is hyperbole.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 6:10PM Hackjob said

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Why is joystiq riding the onlive bandwagon so hard. As far as I can tell everything about this service sucks...
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 6:21PM Shiv Thrice said

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@Hackjob
Because they've tried the service and don't jump in the hate wagon without experiencing it first... you sheep.

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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 6:36PM Faenix said

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@Hackjob

I never heard it sucks, people say it works
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 6:38PM Scuffles said

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@Shiv Thrice
Not sure I need to try it to realize it isn't viable, you just need some basic math to breakdown the cost over time. it works out to $900/5yrs@14.99 and the ps3 was ~$600 at launch. So $10/mo and less if you have kept your ps3 over 5 years. Tho now its only ~$300.

Hardware is cheaper in the long run and more reliable.

Then again every time I turn around its "free year" this and "discounted fees" that. By the time half the people get to the point where they are going to have to pay full price they should have substantial gaming libraries that they would otherwise lose if they cancel.

I'm not saying the service is "bad" its just more like communism, it really only works on paper.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 7:01PM Hackjob said

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@Shiv Thrice

Sorry but I don't need to experience bad ideas to know they are bad. I know sticking my hand in boiling water will suck so I don't do it. Sheep is doing something without thought. Thanks for the well thought out reply.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 7:14PM DeeZeee said

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@Faenix I just got done trying it and it works great! I don't see myself sticking with it, seeing as I have a gaming pc and every console, do it's kinda pointless for me...

I only wanted to try it because I think this is the direction consoles will be headed in the future. They could use a service like this to let people rent games on PSN or Xbox Live.

I tested it on my 09 MBP and it felt like I was playing on my gaming laptop. I didn't notice any lag or anything. Although, that could just be my connection.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 8:37PM Shiv Thrice said

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@Scuffles
I suppose you're right I guess with those numbers I should cancel my xbox live account and sale my 360.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 10:07PM Faenix said

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@Scuffles

Flaw with your assessment.

You said PS3, this is for PC.. if you haven't noticed - there different.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 10:45PM logicplay said

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@Hackjob you also need a good strong connection, something like 5 mbps or more
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 4:58AM WilliamNighthawk said

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@Scuffles I'm guessing I'm the only person who plays non-multiplayer games only once and drops them unless they have added content for another side [Example: K.O.T.O.R series I played evil and turned around and played good because curiosity got the best of me].

So if I played the game and they canceled on me I really couldn't care less. I'm not really a nostalgic person. I figured there would be at least a few more people like me on Joystiq always wanting to get the newest game, so once I beat a game I erase it from my library. I do pretty much the same with hard copies. I beat a game and give it to my little brother or a friend. Past is the Past, I'm always thinking about the future.

I will say that you have a point though, being people aren't like me and a lot of the world is nostalgic, onlive is playing a little game of cat and mouse. A little game theory involved in the marketing of their product, pretty much the same business tactic drug dealers use. Get the people hooked on their product and threaten to take it away if they don't pay outrages prices. It's fine by me though, business is business and everyone is hooked on something.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 10:39AM tumes said

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@Hackjob Because Joystiq is just like Onlive - an online entity so they have an inherent interest in seeing it succeed. Moreover this site tends to lean towards a favorable attitude towards DD unlike some of the other sites.

Onlive might work technically, but the business model does not. So far people have not been willing to pay for cloud computing. Yeah if its free - like google apps, but when it costs money most people shy away.

The other thing is if Onlive does work, I wonder how long the ISPs will want a bigger piece of the pie since without their infrastructure Onlive could not exist. Think charging for bandwidth based on usage.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 6:36PM GameboyHippo said

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I got accepted as well. Unfortunately, it won't let me connect because I don't have enough bandwidth and the lag is too great.

I'm not terribly sad about this since there aren't any great games for the service (at least for a family friendly hardcore gamer), but the nerd in me is curious if it really works.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 7:13PM dogmaticatheist said

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I tried a few demos, and to be honest the lag isn't really that bad, but the graphics are just too damn fuzzy. I have a 24mb/3mb AT&T Uverse internet connection with flawless connectivity and a beefed up Mac Pro, so I don' t know what the problem is.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 10:19PM BananaBoat said

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@dogmaticatheist - The problem is compression. A highly compressed 720p stream can look far worse than an uncompressed 480p video feed for instance.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 7:28PM crankygonzo said

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I am pleasantly surprised with the service. It's a great option for people that don't own substantial hardware. The GUI is really nice and the responsiveness of the games/videos is excellent. Just being able to demo the games immediately without download is a really nice experience. Once they roll out wifi enabled service, this could really be a great option for people that travel a lot and gaming on the go in general. I am disappointed that some of the hardware requirements are a little odd. For instance I have a Logitech wireless mouse for my mac attached to the TV. They don't support the Logitech Control Center software, so I end up not being able to use my wireless mouse. Where I think this service could really shine is if it adopted a Gamefly/Netflix Instant Watch type of business model. The price of the games I feel like don't match what you are getting. I have to wonder if this company fails, what would you do with all the games you purchased that don't provide you with a physical/digital copy. On a side note, not having to worry about videogame companies such as EA installing malware onto your computer in the form of copy protection is an added plus. It's the very reason I haven't played Crysis Warhead. All in all this service has great potential and once it rolls out completely I think it could be really great and a serious competitor to current video game distribution models.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 7:28PM gmrtom7 said

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Got my acceptance email a few days ago, but, unfortunately, do not own a credit card, so I can't join. Anyone know of any other ways to enter?
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 10:05AM Cal said

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@gmrtom7

Get a prepaid debit card and stuck as little as you can on it, handy for services which require a card but dont charge. Or for offers which give you discounted rates and then auto-renew at full price.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 7:38PM cmb4747 said

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I just used onlive last night for the first time. I played Borderlands. The game is totally fun and it was easy to play with the service. Just click and go.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 8:01PM crazeeseal said

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I got accepted but haven't been able to play on account of the launcher crashing my pc. Granted, my pc is pretty crappy (Pentium 4, 1GB ram, win xp) but I kinda thought that was the whole point of On Live.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 9:35PM logicplay said

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no thanks, if I cant own I wont buy
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 10:16PM Razorlution said

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I think a few of you are missing the point of this service, but point me out if I'm wrong...is OnLive not for people who don't have the hardware capabilities to handle a certain game but allow one to play it still?
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 10:32PM golobulus said

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@Razorlution you mean an alternative, like what consoles already offer? i ain't talking exclusives. but we can go there if you want.
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Posted: Jul 18th 2010 11:30PM Faenix said

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@Razorlution

Pretty much.

@golobulus

There are a lot of good PC exclusives you cant play on consoles, some people also prefer to play PC (Tho majority will have the PC to play em)

But SOME people go to PC gaming cafes (Elan Games, is one in my town) and people pay like $10 for x hours. My friend use to go all the time, if this service was available then - he'd save a ton of money.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 10:29AM Sidebuster said

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@Razorlution

it's seems like it's built for people who don't play games. Because it's best if you don't have a console or PC.
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Posted: Jul 19th 2010 10:07PM golobulus said

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@Faenix 2 words. niche market.
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