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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:05PM Ezio Auditore da Firenze said

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This is pretty cool. :)

Though, I feel the need to mention that Microsoft is doing the same thing, only without the need for glasses.

http://www.physorg.com/news195657981.html

Couple of videos there. It's pretty awesome tech and worth a look!
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:17PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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@Ezio Auditore da Firenze that is pretty bad ass....and I know its prototype tech but I hope it improves a lot...the picture seemed to be washed more than it is from wearing glasses
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 11:37PM Playace said

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@Ezio Auditore da Firenze Hahaha that's so cool. I must say I think although the idea is cool, it will be for a very niche market. I'd say less than 5% of the population in America lets say will a) Be bothered to buy it all, b) Have the money to buy it all, and c) Be bothered with setting it up and the fiddley-ness of it all.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 11:59PM Bizzac said

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@Playace
I don't know, I would LOVE to play local co-op and not have to split the screen to do it. Also, no more screen looking!
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 12:19AM scratchh said

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@Ezio Auditore da Firenze

Thanks for sharing, that is some cool tech.
So is the sony tech, although:
no-glasses > glasses
everytime.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 3:38AM Inspace2020 said

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@Ezio Auditore da Firenze
The problem with the tech MS is working on is currently its only got a 20 degree viewing angle ala the 3DS. They showed a similar TV at CES with 9 viewing angles...if the person moves out of the small viewing window headaches ensue. They say they're working on a viewing angle of 40 degrees which is a little more promising.

The Sony tech seems to build on the current 3D tech and adds another feature to that shiny new 3DTV you buy this Christmas (or next). Personally I'm in no hurry to buy a new 3DTV just for 3D games/movies but being able to watch 2 different inputs at the same time and local multiplayer might push me over the edge (in the next year or two).

I know if my wife can watch TV and I play games on the same TV at the same time, that would solve A LOT of problems in my house! lol
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 7:20AM MrAlex said

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@Ezio Auditore da Firenze

Won't that TV only be 3D for one person though?
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 8:54AM Paranoimia said

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@Ezio Auditore da Firenze

I'm not at all interested in this 3D stuff, and I dislike the way Sony are pushing it. I would tend to prefer the MS solution, since it doesn't require glasses - but it doesn't look particularly good.

I know it's early stages, but the images in those videos are extremely flickery and would be almost unwatchable. I'd also question the effectiveness of eye-tracking, since you blink a lot and change the position of your head a lot while watching TV. Would those constant movements affect picture quality?

Also, how would the MS solution deal with sound? Much as I hate wearing glasses for 3D (since I already wear specs), Sony's glasses-based tech at least provides each viewer with their own ear-buds for their own audio. As yet, it doesn't seem that the MS solution accounts for different audio at all.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 6:22PM Jacksons said

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@Ezio Auditore da Firenze So far, I can't see how the wedge would deal with the distance between peoples' eyes being variable. Still, it has hope!
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:05PM Ashkental said

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"local split-screen multiplayer without actually splitting the screen"

I think that's actually the REAL definition of Split-Screen.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:06PM Puertoricarious said

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wow, this sound pretty amazing.

wouldn't this also mean, though, that the frame rate of everything you're seeing would be cut in half?
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:08PM Foetoid said

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@Puertoricarious

Not necessarily. Its literally split-screen without the split in the screen, and split-screen mulitplayer has been around for ages.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:15PM Tyler2 said

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@Puertoricarious
I think this means that, yes, you'd get half the framerate. Unless they have some crazy version of the 3DS-tech-on-steroids...
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:27PM BlackedOut said

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Foetoid, on the game side of things yes.
But each player will have half the images directed at them. The other half their shutter glasses will be off.

The game's framerate wont change but the player's frames SEEN per second will be cut in half, which is what matters.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 12:43AM onan said

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@Puertoricarious

Would the framerate of everything get cut in half? Probably. But that wouldn't matter on your BRAND NEW 240 FPS Sony Bravia!!! :D

What are the chances a company would come out of nowhere to fill the void (they've created)? Uncanny!
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:08PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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wonder if they could make it so only ONE person has to wear glasses....
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:24PM BlackedOut said

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No. It works like this:
Player one left eye image
Player two left eye image
Player one right eye image
Player two right eye image
Using the shutter glasses obv.

My only worry for you guys is, they've already capped the image quality at 720p for 3D, won't this half the framerate, not on the game but each player will receive half the frames right?
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 12:27AM MNeko said

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@BlackedOut Oh lord, I feel terribly, terribly sorry for anyone who walks in the room without the glasses. Just one look at the screen and the constant strobing between players would turn them into a quivering pile of jelly.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:18PM Prboi said

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Great. Now I have to wear huge glasses & huge headphone. Thanks Sony for making people look like complete nerds -_-
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 12:52AM tenacioustoaster said

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@Prboi You do realize the sort of people reading these comments right?
I do NOT take being a nerd as an insult. In fact I flaunt it! If this will make me more of a nerd I'm buying it!
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:21PM Acosta02 said

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Maybe now I can beat my roommate in Halo.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:30PM Jordan94jb said

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Again, so behind Joystiq.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:40PM KillaPat said

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@Jordan94jb
That may be, but I didn't see it until it was on here. If you like some other site better, don't come here and post how Joystiq is late. Or go start your own blog about how you are faster than everyone else.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 12:27AM PlayboyX said

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@KillaPat Very well done my good sir. shut them up, one by one.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 12:30AM Jordan94jb said

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@PlayboyX Sorry would have replied but site formatting wasn't working. Anyway, ever think the reason I know they're late is because I source my information from multiple sites. And do you ever think Joystiq would like to know if they're late, so they know to improve their service?
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 12:54AM robotoid said

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@KillaPat

ZING! Nice response. Your username should be KillaTroll.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 11:53AM sonicspike41 said

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@Jordan94jb

I'm pretty sure they know when they're late. All it takes is one look at their source to see exactly how late they are (which, by the way, is under a week).

If you can't handle Joystiq taking a week to make a hilarious and informative article, then maybe you should remove it from your list of sites.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:34PM wocyob said

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sounds like it will cost sooooo much money
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 3:44AM Inspace2020 said

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@wocyob Why? If you already have a 3DTV all you have to do is buy the compatible glasses/headphone set. I dont see this coming out until 3DTV's have caught on more (2 yrs). By then the shutter glasses will have come down a lot I would assume do to mass production.

The question I have would be is Sony gonna make this proprietary to Sony TV's only or will it be compatible with ALL 3DTV's which are all probably 120HZ-240HZ.

Don't eff this up SONY! :P
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:49PM gevenstaines said

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Seeing two images to create a 3D picture is so 1836.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 10:56PM r4in said

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ROFL3D?
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 11:03PM Jwach said

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I think Texas Instruments might have a little to say about this considering they patented the same tech a year and a half ago.
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/08/ces-texas-instruments-dualview-tv-used-for-3d-multiplayer/
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 11:32PM liquidsoap89 said

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This is like 3D taken to a whole new level, but only the person sitting beside you can even see it!
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 11:41PM Diodax said

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That's actually very awesome.
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 11:47PM JamesHks said

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futures here folks
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 9:14AM r4in said

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@JamesHks

Then what do we call tomorrow?
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Posted: Jul 20th 2010 11:50PM SoCoolCurt said

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didn't they show something like this last year? i seem to remember seeing them demoing this with Gran Turismo at some game convention last year. i'm like 98% sure.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 12:15AM Chyld989 said

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Could be very cool if done right. I wouldn't care about each person getting a separate 3D image, as I have yet to see a 3D game or movie that was superior to the 2D version, but this might actually made 3D TVs worth it...of course, nobody else can watch you play (unless they also have glasses) which would kind of suck.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 12:28AM ColorblindMonk said

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That idea is so good, it needs it's own name. Should it work, that would mean the end of split screen, or that picture in picture on TV
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 12:42AM logicplay said

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I smell wallets melting
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 3:01AM Dance Love Pop said

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I'm not wearing glasses, and I'm not wearing headphones. Local multiplayer is my thing, if you take away actually interacting with your friend and you lost me. You might as well just play online if all you care about is screen real estate and a discrete audio channel.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 4:49AM N3M0F8ng said

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Sounds great to play with. Too bad it also sounds like my bank account crying...
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 5:38AM Unvrfd said

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So I still can't connect two screens and play split-screen that way? Bummer.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 6:02AM imadogg said

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HOT DAMN
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 6:25AM MicahR said

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This is a better idea than the time me and my buddies dressed up like women to get cheap beers on ladies night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLrrFxXZ3rk
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 9:22AM Tuxy79 said

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That's cool.

Certainly makes the technology more attractive. The only barrier that still remains is the price to own the equipment.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 10:21AM AirIntake said

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I'm not sure why this is even patentable. Any shutter type 3D technology is already displaying two separate images. Whether the the second image is for the other eye, or for another player doesn't really make a difference, the technology is exactly the same.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 6:34PM Jacksons said

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@AirIntake Well sure, but that's like saying you can't patent a blower because it has identical technology to a vacuum. Processes can be patented.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 10:23AM Nobledevil Gaming Optimist said

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I heard about this some time ago, like a couple GDCs ago I thought, and totally forgot about it. It's nice to see it pop up again as that might mean it is making headway into being actual technology that actual people can actually use.

I'm looking forward to seeing this come along, as it would mean so much better two player co-op if everyone can technically have their own screen.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2010 10:57AM Che J P said

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Yeah me too. I first heard about it when I was buying my 3D TV (Fry's has AWESOME prices). The salesman explained it to me and it was a true mind fudger.
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