Pokemon Black and White battle footage sways our opinion
by Griffin McElroy 
on Aug 14th 2010 5:00PM
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Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:06PM Appleman said
Man, I wish they just made a FireFireRed with 3D battle animations. Guess I'm old school, but I'm not really feeling all of the new Pokemon...
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:12PM AnderFREAK said
@Appleman They don't need to make kanto a fifth time...
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Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:16PM Measlesopolis said
@Appleman yes! I completely agree with you anything past 151 is gay. I might allow silver and gold though... maybe... Anyway all I want is the blue and red but done up nicely not all these new shitty pokemon.
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Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:07PM SnorlaxTheSerialKiller said
the first enemy has a bra on
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:12PM Cypher FDP said
@SnorlaxTheSerialKiller
At least it's not FAT AND LAZY like Snorlax.
Whoops.
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At least it's not FAT AND LAZY like Snorlax.
Whoops.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:13PM CheesecakeJones said
@SnorlaxTheSerialKiller Well, it is a kids game. Would you rather there be a NAKED swan up there? Sheesh...
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Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:19PM SnorlaxTheSerialKiller said
@CheesecakeJones
Actually, I would like that very much. Would be a formidable foe, very distracting as well.
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Actually, I would like that very much. Would be a formidable foe, very distracting as well.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 9:22PM (Unverified) said
@SnorlaxTheSerialKiller
They should completely take out snorlax, he promotes childhood obesity, and of course, constant napping.
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They should completely take out snorlax, he promotes childhood obesity, and of course, constant napping.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 11:43PM SnorlaxTheSerialKiller said
@(Unverified)
...and what's wrong with that?
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...and what's wrong with that?
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:07PM Uncontrol said
hell yeah dir en grey
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:07PM Zenith said
Mostly this is exciting because of a the battle themes, which are pretty good. Better than Gen IV's, at any rate. Although the sound is a bit reminiscent of Gen IV. A bit more...techno-ish, it sounds like.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:09PM s1l3n70n3 said
Decent animation and swishy-moving characters are a nice addition. Really adds a lot of personality. Unfortunately, it seems the problem of 10 second turns may persist even with animation off and text set to the fastest. Dragon Warrior Monsters solved that with text so fast you only ever bothered to read the damage number. I'm still a bit disappointed that after 15 years the pokemon still cannot make physical contact.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:11PM Cypher FDP said
Griffin, out of curiosity, are you stuck in a timehole where everything happens two days later than in the normal world?
Happened to me last Thursday.
Happened to me last Thursday.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:13PM brianrommeldesigns said
I like that the battles are more dynamic but not as dynamic as i was hoping for
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:14PM Haelie said
What mighty big hair you have miss female trainer, and oh? What's this? Your stork is wearing a brassiere, how lovely.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:17PM tkashur said
Wow, liking the constantly moving mons! But the background still sucks pokenuts...it looks like they got the color fade paint bucket from photo shop and put animation over it...and this game looks like it would make good use of 3d...why aren't they waiting till the new ds???
(btw...has celebi been downloadable yet?)
(btw...has celebi been downloadable yet?)
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:20PM (Unverified) said
That first pokemon is totally a metroid with flower print clothing.
Posted: Aug 15th 2010 5:50AM (Unverified) said
@(Unverified)
I was thinking the same thing. A pig and a metroid had a baby.
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I was thinking the same thing. A pig and a metroid had a baby.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:27PM Tonezorz said
I certainly hope they have an option to speed up all the battle animations. I always feel like 70% of my play time is wasted watching stuff I've seen over and over again.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:36PM Helghast102 said
@Tonezorz
You can turn off animations entirely in the other games, so I don't think this will be any different.
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You can turn off animations entirely in the other games, so I don't think this will be any different.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:30PM Special Agent Steve said
As glad as I am for new animations (and animations in general) the gameplay feels a lot slower :(.
I hope theres an option to speed up the animations, because I still want to see them, I just don't want to wait around for them XD..
Yeah they're only 3-5 secs long, but when you have 250+ battles in a game, that's a lot of time.
I hope theres an option to speed up the animations, because I still want to see them, I just don't want to wait around for them XD..
Yeah they're only 3-5 secs long, but when you have 250+ battles in a game, that's a lot of time.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:53PM jph89 said
@Special Agent Steve
There probably shown at medium speed in that clip, just like other games, you can speed up or turn animations off completely if you want. That said, whats a few extra seconds per battle in a game that can get up to 100 hours of game play anyway.
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There probably shown at medium speed in that clip, just like other games, you can speed up or turn animations off completely if you want. That said, whats a few extra seconds per battle in a game that can get up to 100 hours of game play anyway.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 6:21PM Tonezorz said
@jph89 After playing a version of the game thats hacked where EVERYTHING is 2x speed, and stuff like the pokecenter delay is taken out, you really realize how much time you waste doing "nothing"
Maybe you don't, but I certainly care about my time, as I have very little of it to dedicate to video games.
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Maybe you don't, but I certainly care about my time, as I have very little of it to dedicate to video games.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 6:31PM Special Agent Steve said
@jph89
It probably wouldn't be a hundred of hours lol. I love mah pokemons, but waiting for the pokecenter lady to get through her speech is just agonizing, as most people know.
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It probably wouldn't be a hundred of hours lol. I love mah pokemons, but waiting for the pokecenter lady to get through her speech is just agonizing, as most people know.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:31PM richardspagna said
I'm totally ready for some new Poke'monz! PKMN Trainer for life!
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:35PM Helghast102 said
I so cant wait for this, so far im liking alot of Gen V Pokémon (stfu Gen1 fanbois), the music is awesome and the new features.. wow.
Generation V will be the BEST Generation!
Generation V will be the BEST Generation!
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:53PM Appleman said
To be honest, I would be fine with the 151 in a region other than Kanto, but I feel like the barrier of entry (for me at least) is too high with the ridiculously large amount of superfluous pokemon that the series has generated over the years while "trying" to keep it fresh. New region, new innovations, fine, but make them REAL innovations and not a bunch of renamed Pokemon...
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Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:43PM slickie said
I'm trying to think hard of a game series that has made less progress over the course of 12 years than Pokemon has, but I'm drawing a blank.
I enjoyed the first generation, the second generation was decent and I managed to get through, but I couldn't get more than a few hours into the first GBA games because it felt so archaic.
Then the other day I toyed around with my friend's DS and found that the games still haven't evolved.
It's a nice little concept but it can't sustain dozens of re-releases.
I enjoyed the first generation, the second generation was decent and I managed to get through, but I couldn't get more than a few hours into the first GBA games because it felt so archaic.
Then the other day I toyed around with my friend's DS and found that the games still haven't evolved.
It's a nice little concept but it can't sustain dozens of re-releases.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:56PM yesnomaybeidontknow said
@slickie
final fantasy maybe? most of square-enix's games tbh...
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final fantasy maybe? most of square-enix's games tbh...
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 6:22PM Skorpeyon said
@yesnomaybeidontknow Each Final Fantasy game has had changes to the battle system, and later the job systems, etc. Pokemon has just re-hashed the exact same concepts, creating new playable characters, sure, but with the same basic gameplay. It's rock/paper/scissors x 12 or so. Final Fantasy 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, and 13 all had different stories, gameplay, and parts of the battle system were completely different. Materia, Drawing, Abilities, Sphere Grids, etc. all make you sort of re-learn how to play the game and change your strategies and gameplay styles.
And, of course, the FF storylines are far more epic, in my opinion, than "I wanna be the bestest! I'mma train mah pet guys and go beat the bestest!" which is really about as "interesting" as the Pokemon story gets.
Unless you were referring to the silly FF spinoffs (Crystal Chronicals and the like) they've done. I haven't really been a fan of any of those, and would gladly throw them in the same category as Pokemon.
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And, of course, the FF storylines are far more epic, in my opinion, than "I wanna be the bestest! I'mma train mah pet guys and go beat the bestest!" which is really about as "interesting" as the Pokemon story gets.
Unless you were referring to the silly FF spinoffs (Crystal Chronicals and the like) they've done. I haven't really been a fan of any of those, and would gladly throw them in the same category as Pokemon.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:49PM pangit said
i dont mind cooler animations, just not all the camera movements. pokemon battles are too long already.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:50PM jph89 said
I consider every pokemon game equally awesome. IMO, no generation stands above any other. At the end of the day, you only need to like 6 out of what, 500+ pokemon to enjoy the game.
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 5:55PM SHANK0P0TAMUS said
what happen to the good ole original pokemon red blue and yellow. now they have all this mumbo jumbo
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 6:18PM Ashkental said
I've never seen those Pokemon in my life!
What happenend to the 151?
What happenend to the 151?
Posted: Aug 14th 2010 6:22PM Evil Pikachu said
Battle animations seem... cooler!
