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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:10PM oOWallaceOo said

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I flew into Chicago today from Ireland and the first thing I happen to see is the Starcraft Airplane, I started laughing my head off and the guy beside me wasn't too happy. I never thought I'd get to see it. I look forward to seeing many more oddities that I have seen on the internet
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:10PM Deschain said

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Like stimpaks will stop them from playing.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:11PM Pesterenan said

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That is depressing. (pun xD)
My dad and my brother are both addicted to a online game too, Cabal Online, and I find it sad that these guys who play StarCraft need to be treated with antidepressants.. :(

Well, at least it is a sign that the game is REALLY good. xD
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:37PM harusame said

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@Pesterenan
A lot of people are addicted to FarmVille but I wouldn't call that game "really good". Being addicted to a game doesn't necessarily mean that you enjoy playing it, you just have to play no matter what. At least it was like that to me when I was a WoW addict a couple of years ago.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 8:05PM Bearcut said

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@harusame

Buproprion (Wellbutrin) is a great drug as an anti-depressant, but not very good at anti-smoking. Anyway, if you know someone who is addicted to a video game and you are concerned for them, try to get them to seek professional help. This isn't a joke please don't down vote this.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 11:20PM motamedn said

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@Bearcut Its actually not bad at helping quit smoking when you consider that smoking is considered as addictive as heroin.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2010 12:47PM Bearcut said

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@motamedn

What i meant is there are better anti-smoking aids. Wellbutrin doesn't have alot of success in that department.

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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:12PM Pure Black World Tendency said

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"MRI scans showed that participant's brains reacted less strongly to pictures of Zerglings after the treatment."

Zerglophiles? I thought they were only a myth.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:12PM TachiFoxy said

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Hearing "antidepressants" makes me want to listen to Serj Tankian's "Unthinking Majority" for some reason...

Anyway, who knows... Perhaps it actually does work against Starcraft-addiction. If it would work against WoW-addiction then it sure could get some heavy use over here in Germany... and probably in other parts of the world, too.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:14PM Crimsic said

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I need some of that stuff to get me off of Geometry Wars, my high score of 883 million in Pacifism is not enough...must continue to climb the leaderboards...
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:19PM Acosta02 said

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"MRI scans showed that participant's brains reacted less strongly to pictures of Zerglings after the treatment."
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:19PM Tehbar said

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People get addicted to behaviors, so I suppose that it was we'd treat this like we do other addictions.


For some reason, though, being that addicted to a video game makes me depressed...pass the buproprion will you?
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:21PM Tehbar said

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@Tehbar

That it was *only a matter of time before" we'd treat

What's the diagnosis for omitting large parts of a sentence? What about not finishing a
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:27PM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said

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Soo.... replacing one drug with another? Sure, that makes TOTAL sense.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:28PM Chareth Cutestory said

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You know what might help these people get over their StarCraft addiction?

StarCraft 2.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:29PM harusame said

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Why the quotation marks around "addiction"? Addiction should always be taken seriously whether the object of addiction is drugs, gambling, sex, video games or anything else. StarCraft and World of Warcraft have probably destroyed more lives in South Korea than heroin.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 8:50PM Lerkero said

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@harusame
I agree. Addiction should be taken seriously, but it's not Starcraft that they are addicted to. It's something about the behavior that Starcraft elicits from the person.

The quotations should be around Starcraft, not addiction.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 10:08AM KAL326 said

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@harusame What if I was addicted to running around kicking puppies and punching kittens in a bugs bunny meets Dr Frankenfurter suit? Would you expect people to take that seriously?
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:32PM mrmobius said

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I'm about to start a placement in Psychiatry for 6 weeks. This would be a brilliant paper to present if I was asked to present a paper at any stage.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:39PM gevenstaines said

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@mrmobius
present a paper, please
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 8:06PM Bearcut said

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@mrmobius
I've done it. You won't be.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 9:26PM mrmobius said

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As a medical student in Northern Ireland things may be different. I don't expect to have to do any presentations (except maybe a case or 2 from the wards) though either.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2010 12:47PM Bearcut said

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@mrmobius

Oh yeah case presentations at least bi-weekly. But not paper presentations : )
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:38PM gevenstaines said

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@PolishMountainMan
they would just play more sc
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:40PM endgamer77 said

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Well. This article proves South Koreans play way too much video games.

if a doctor tried this in the U.S., they would get suspended
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 7:55PM GuardianLegend said

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I was pretty depressed about 5 years ago. I stopped going to college for a year or two and pretty much played games the whole time. I forget when, but eventually I was prescribed Prozac and I eventually ended up going back to school, graduating, and getting a decent job. I still play a ton of games though.

Anyway, I'm convinced psychiatrists are too quick to prescribe meds to people. It's like their quick fix solution for everything.



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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 8:09PM Bearcut said

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@GuardianLegend

Because it works. The best treatment for clinical depression is a combination of three things; 1) Appropriate medication, 2)Psychotherapy, and 3) Physical exercise. A good 9-12 month regimen is good to fix the brain chemistry. Depression is real. If someone was having a heart attack, you wouldn't tell them to snap out of it would you? Would you say doctors are too quick to prescribe oxygen when someone is short of breath? I mean come on people, the sooner we can lose the social stigma of depression the sooner people who need help can get it.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 9:26PM Chareth Cutestory said

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@Bearcut

Depression is a lot trickier of a medical problem than heart trouble.

Just listen to any ad for any anti-depressent. The voice overs always stipulate that, "(Drug Whatever) is believed to work by (medical jargon)."

Altering brain chemistry is far from an exact science, and the drugs that do so shouldn't be taken lightly.

Hell, how many sleeping/anti-depressent ads have you seen that warn of possible side effects like suicidal thoughts and actions?
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Posted: Aug 21st 2010 12:49PM Bearcut said

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@Chareth Cutestory

That's a whole other conversation --- basically they cause suicidal ideation because if someone is depressed and catatonic, they don't have the energy to kill themselves. But since their energy level goes up gradually, when they get a little more energy, they decide to kill themselves.

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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 2:23PM Zanaji said

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@GuardianLegend Yes, psychoactive drugs are the big fix for any sort of behavior that is considered sub-optimal. I took paroxetine for 8 months at a steadily increasing dosage before something else snapped me out of my depression. The paroxetine was entirely useless, and I consider that it was actually harmful in my case.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 8:02PM Faenix said

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Oh lord..

"Im addicted to my PS3" "Get this kid some medication!"

They will do anything to give people medication :/
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 8:07PM PantsParty said

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Those people have to be wired differently.

Maybe it's just the culture they grow up in.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 9:04PM VanNorden said

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I'm honestly not very surprised
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 9:53PM Colin said

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So these patients basically need more vespene gas.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 10:01PM Puertoricarious said

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"Isn't it possible these people are suffering from depression because of their obsession with a video game? Or, rather, couldn't they have become obsessed with a video game because they were depressed? In either case, doesn't it kind of make sense to treat them with antidepressants?"

The thing is, buproprion doesn't purely treat depression. One of the things buproprion does is inhibit reuptake of dopamine, and it's long been suspected that the dopamine reward pathway, which is believed by many to be how we experience pleasure, is tied to addiction. It's plausible to think that treating the depression could have an affect on the addiction, but I'd wager that the buproprion is treating the addiction itself. Quite literally, it's likely interfering with the player's ability to feel pleasure when playing Starcraft.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 10:02PM Puertoricarious said

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what the....why am i unverified again.....?
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 10:02PM Puertoricarious said

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@Puertoricarious

...........nevermind.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 10:47PM damnreds said

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they should just sue the game company instead:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/08/lineage11-addiction/
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 11:19PM motamedn said

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Little hostile Joystiq? . Buproprion (AKA welbutrin) is a drug that--in addition to treatment of depression--is used to help quit smoking. And other addictions.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2010 11:22PM motamedn said

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@motamedn My point is that "buproprion is used to treat depression. it is being used for starcraft. therefore starcraft players must be depressed" is falacious. Buproprion has many uses N O T just depression.

In fact, it isn't even first line for depression in most cases.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2010 12:48AM gatotsu911 said

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This is probably the most amusing story I've seen today.
Yeah, I have a dark sense of humor.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2010 12:54AM JCDoe said

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I don't think Senor McElroy enunciated his point well (sorry, most of the time the big Mac is a veritable wordsmith, but this was . . . a little weak). He wasn't downplaying the need for these people to be treated. They needed help.

Instead, the point is this: many "legitimate" mental illnesses (in other words, illnesses that are actually described in the DSM IV) cause obsessive or addictive behaviors, such as being overactive sexually, spending too much money, or drug abuse.

So you can't say "I gave this video game addict welbutrin, and he broke his addiction, ergo, welbutrin treats video game addictions." The medication could be treating the addiction itself, or the medication could be treating an underlying mental illness that was undiagnosed and that was causing the addiction.

The fact is, there are many "addictions" that are not officially recognized by the psychiatric community at large that some "doctors" (I use the term loosely) will still "treat," such as television addiction, food addiction and video game addiction. None of these activities are physiologically addictive; if someone is "hooked" on one of these, it means there is some underlying disorder causing it. Someone who has a "food addiction," for example, could be experiencing depression, since increased appetite is a symptom of the illness.

If you know someone who is spends too much time on sex, video games, tv, gambling, or whatever, urge them to get help from a LEGIT shrink who will look past the problem behavior and treat the underlying illness. Mental illness is a serious thing and wanna-be doctors like Dr. Phil need to stop monkeying around making crap up when there are real diagnoses and treatments to be had.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2010 1:00AM JCDoe said

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@Shadsy

Mental illness is a very real thing. I have bipolar type 2 disorder. I am now being treated (very successfully I might add), and I can tell you that when I look back at times when I was manic or depressed, it was practically impossible to control my behaviors. I simply did what my brain chemistry dictated.

Human beings are flesh and blood, and that includes our minds. If your brain chemistry is off, then that will have a material impact on the decisions you make and the things you do.

I'm not saying people who are hooked on drugs or alcohol necessarily have a "disease" beyond their control; what I am saying is that behavior isn't always a matter of choice and self-control.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2010 8:05AM (Unverified) said

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"Isn't it possible these people are suffering from depression because of their obsession with a video game? Or, rather, couldn't they have become obsessed with a video game because they were depressed? In either case, doesn't it kind of make sense to treat them with antidepressants?"

Stick to gaming and stop pretending to know anything about fields outside your own.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2010 1:24PM JCDoe said

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@(Unverified)

Hm, looks like someone lacks formal training in logic (hint: look up "ad hominum fallacy" on wikipedia and then tell me what mistake you made).

McElroy's argument is very sound. If these doctors were to publish their findings in a peer-reviewed journal, they'd be asked the exact same question.
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Posted: Aug 21st 2010 1:34PM JCDoe said

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@Shadsy

Oh, no offense taken.

Personally, I take umbrage with groups like AA that tell their members that they are "powerless" to quit the undesired behavior on their own. Unless there is an actual mental illness at play, I don't believe that. You /can/ quit smoking, drinking, or doing drugs through willpower and self-discipline (unless you are so addicted that they will literally die without the drug--in those instances, medical assistance is obviously required). In fact, most drug rehab programs have a god-awful recidivism rate because just taking drugs away from someone for a month doesn't teach him or her the self-discipline to avoid drugs in the future.

People need to take some damn responsibility for their own actions, and stop pretending that "the devil made me do it" is an acceptable excuse.

But if someone is excessively manic due to brain chemical issues, and that manifests itself via twenty-hour a day starcraft marathons, then that person needs the underlying medical condition to be treated before he can deal with the symptom.

That be all I'm sayin. :)
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2010 10:24PM NoirR said

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I just loved joystick clearing it up about "Also -- we swear we're not making this up -- MRI scans showed that participant's brains reacted less strongly to pictures of Zerglings after the treatment." it's an argument they couldn't believe as we do.

also, it's well known that there's an addiction to online games problem in Korea, how many times have we heard about WoW, korea and "died" in the news?
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 4:59AM Unvrfd said

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Why do people treat depression with drugs? Jesus!
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