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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 4:49PM Misfit Toy said

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I've been waiting for the digital download version, but it is unlikely they will use this ultimate version for XBL. So this may be worthwhile.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 4:50PM Silex said

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Seriously, just 2 hours ago I was searching if they're planning to release some kind of a full edition. It's about time I'll play it. :D
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 4:53PM Joseph9307 said

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I bought this game when it first came out. However, I haven't bought a single DLC item!


What do I do now?
Trade it in for this Super Awesome Edition, or just buy all the DLC with Microsoft Points?!

:0
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 4:53PM HedonisticKai said

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@FireThief

Oh hell yes, this is the one I'm totally buying, bruh. =] =]

"Yay, I'm so happy to purchase this game my friends =) =)"
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 4:54PM Supino said

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"a friendly challenge to Sony's long-awaited Gran Turismo 5"

I honestly don't think they get along that well.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 4:54PM PR0F3TA said

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inb4GT5
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 5:14PM Chibi Chaingun said

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@PR0F3TA

Too bad people will probably see this comment AFTER reading that novel written by EechuTah up there.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 5:27PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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@PR0F3TA well they did kinda open the door for GT5 comments by saying what they said....
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 5:02PM EechuTah said

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@FireThief,

I just wanted to flat out say that Turn10 lacks the PURE AUTOMOTIE PASSION when it comes to making a racing video game.

Digital Polyphony are the best at what they do, because not only do they devote their one and attention to detail ( and oh boy does GT5 have detail...) but they also make sure every car is different ( audio wise, drivability wise, etc ).

Not Turn10. They recycle disgusting overused 100% computer generated car exhaust for each car ( the 2009 Shelby GT500 sounds like a tuner...) and IMO it looks only like 10% better than Forza Motorsport 2.

GT5 will be the BEST car racing game of the century. Hands down. They won't make you spend $5 to "own" 10 "new" cars...then release the game 1-2 years later at the same price ( possibly even lower).

GT gives you over 1300+ cars on Day 1. How many for FM3? 400+. Still good, but soooo incomparable to GT5's set list. Plus the menu on GT5 is rich, glossy, and just damn sexy. FM3? Looks like a Jaguar/Porsche website menu.

In my humble opinion, that is why GT5 will continue to destroy any future and enevitable Forza Motorsport game.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 5:31PM olikester said

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The existing battle is GT4 vs. FM3. No contest. Selecting any car and letting the camera pan around it in the main menu shows the sheer detail and passion in Forza's cars. Turn 10 put cars on the dyno and surround them with microphones to get sounds for not just the exaust but the other mechanisms such as turbos and the engine itself. They are very passionate.
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Posted: Aug 24th 2010 12:39AM Jacksy said

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@Javr see thats the point of video games. If i wanted to experience war id go to join the army. If i wanted to know what it feels like to have over 200 cars i would be a greedy politician... If i wanted to shoot aliens i would go..wait.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 5:04PM anonim1979 said

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It should at least have that Kinect support shown at E3....
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 5:40PM olikester said

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@(Unverified) Don't remind me about that. It looks horrendous. It will completely lack feel and response, and I can't personally see moving from a racing wheel to pretending to have one. Turn 10 have confirmed that it won't be necessary in FM4, which is a big relief.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 5:05PM Kleptomaniac said

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I may be a GT guy but I'd like a copy of Forza 3 to hold me off till October, waiting for the 10 euro price point. Very cheap I know:P
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 5:13PM onlysublime said

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@EechuTah you have to be out before you can even compete...
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 5:18PM BoBsS said

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DAMN IT

I have all 6 car packs so far and the nurburgring pack too!
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 5:21PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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@EechuTah They don't lack passion at all....but I will say that they just dont have the experience that Polyphony does.....but they will get there in time....Forza 3 is a good game, and I'll love to see what Forza 4 will be like....especially if they take an extra year or 2 than normal on the dev time
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 5:26PM Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi said

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" would appear to be a friendly challenge to Sony's long-awaited Gran Turismo 5."

Really? this did ok numbers wise last year but it didn't do GT numbers....why would the ultimate version?
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 7:47PM ShadowMonkey987 said

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@Chris DPSN AggieCEO XBLThe Aggi

Because most people who wanted the game knew their was going to be DLC for it and decided to not buy it till the GOTY/Ultimate/Special Edition came out for it so they wouldn't have to pay full price for the game and then pay extras for the DLC..

People did it for game's like Fallout 3 and Fable 2 (They waited till the GotY edition came out) it saves people money..

Plus in my opinion its better than waiting for the game to go down in price (Second hand/Pre-owned) and buying it then and Turn 10 not receiving any of the money from that purchase..

This way they get money out of these purchases..
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 5:52PM Hsuchi said

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@EechuTah

I'm not going to lie, I love the GT franchise from GT1 on PS1, GT3 on PS2 was probably the best one imho, as probably mostly due to the timing of GT4 being at the tail end of the PS2's lifecycle (yeah, I know it's technically still "alive") it started it pale in comparison to other more advanced platforms. But... GT5 was supposed to be a launch title for crying out loud, my PS3 is still waiting since launch day, and I've played and enjoyed 2 Forza games in the meantime... :P

This being said, myself being someone with "PURE AUTOMOTIE (sic) PASSION", I find it hard to believe that you are not some Sony fanboy looking to troll, or that you have played GT5 nor (by the looks of your position) Forza sufficiently to accurately contrast the two.

You are, in fact, allowed to like both Gran Turismo and Forza franchises, and coincidentally, they pretty much have had mutually exclusive launch windows.

I don't usually post much, but just because of the blatant misinformation regarding Forza, I had to offer up this link:
http://designingsound.org/2010/03/recording-cars-for-forza-motorsport-3/

But I digress, haters gotta hate I guess...

And to the original article, strategically this announcement comes after the XBL deals of the week where I just bought the DLC on sale... well played MS, well played... :P
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 6:06PM delicatessen lama said

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I don't know about Gran Turismo, but Forza keeps recycling the same tracks...
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 6:43PM Tuxy79 said

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Yay?

I would have preferred a new track pack instead.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 7:01PM Kid A said

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Long-awaited? Yep Joystiq, never mind that GT5 ever only had one official release date and all else was rumors and speculation, instead of focusing on the many, many positives of the GT franchise and what it means to the tens of millions of people who buy each new game in the series, it's impossible for you to mention the name "Gran Turismo 5" without prefacing it with "long-awaited" or calling it the Duke Nukem of racing games.

You guys don't seemed biased at all!
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 8:24PM noyesa said

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@Kid A I think you're the first GT fanboy I've seen actually arguing whether or not the new GT game is highly anticipated. Seriously...
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 7:23PM kives343 said

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Hey I have never played a racing game how steep is the learning curve on this games?
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 7:24PM LonnieDVD said

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I love Forza 3, but I won't buy this 'Ultimate Collection". I've got 40 other Xbox 360 games to catch up on.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 7:25PM kives343 said

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How steep is the learning curve on this game?
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 8:34PM noyesa said

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@kives343 It's pretty steep if you play without the assists, but if you want the game will do a lot of hand-holding until you're comfortable with it.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 8:00PM EechuTah said

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@Hsuchi,

To all who I might have offended I am sorry. I am just saying that Forza 3 just didnt do it for me.

Being a big Mustang fan, I wanted to see the 2010 Mustang GT, or new 5.0L mustang in the game when it first shipped, but it had the original '05 GT.

And I am NOT a troll or a Sony Fanboy. I just think that (so far what I've seen from GT5) it's going to be light years ahead of any Forza Motorsport game.

But you should know that the lead guys at Polyphony Digital (who make GT5) are PURE automotive people, and not only do they perfect their work, but they keep on perfecting their perfections after the final perfection's detail is perfected.

Turn10 is a GREAT gaming company. Their game FM3 WAS amazing, but it lacks that overall "oomph" that GT5 has. If FM3 had over 10 million pixels, GT5 has 100 million. If FM3 had 400+ cars, GT5 will have over 1500+.

And I've been in a race car before. ( 700hp drag car, F430, etc) and I can tell you: getting the most RAW realistic experience on a tv playing a racing game is the most important thing a car enthusiast wants to experience when playing a racing game.

Playing FM3, I dont get 0.1/1000th's of the feeling. It just doesnt perform.

From what I've seen from Gran Turismo 5 (the game thats taken WAY TOO LONG to be released; but has good reason for it), it is the most realistic racing game that will ever be released for a very long time. None of you can even fathom the thought of Gran Turismo 6 right now. Why? BECAUSE IT WOULD BE NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO IMPROVE ON SUCH A PROMISING GAME.

That is why I believe, as a car enthusiast and fellow gamer, that Gran Turismo 5 will change the very outlook on racing games. That is why I believe Forza Motorsport wont, for a while.

Plus GT5 has 3D. Try that with your Forza Motorsport.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 8:25PM noyesa said

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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


And I just got this game a few months ago.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 8:32PM embassy said

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@EechuTah

That's the thing though, Turn 10 actually, you know, *releases games*. I'm sure if they had 5+ years to make a game it would have the spit-polish shine that GT 5 better have. It just blows my mind that Turn 10 has put out 3 full games during the period between GT4 and GT5. That is insane to me and I have to give Turn 10 credit for establishing such a solid franchise in that (short) time span.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 9:28PM Kid A said

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@noyesa I never said it wasn't highly anticipated. Maybe i shouldn't have picked this post to complain about, but if you've been keeping up with Joystiq's coverage of GT5, you'd know why it's so annoying.

Call me a fanboy if you want, but I didn't criticize Forza at all in that post. In fact, everything I'm saying has nothing to do with Forza and more about the fact that 99% of the gaming press since the release of GT4 has taken on an ignorant, negative attitude towards the franchise. And why? Cause it's been in the making for five years?

Hmm, let's see what other terrible games have been in development for a long time!

Starcraft II
Resident Evil 4
Metal Gear Solid 4
Final Fantasy XIII
Fallout 3
Grand Theft Auto IV

Those games really bombed, didn't they?
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 9:56PM Acosta02 said

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@Kid A

I don't think that calling the game "long-awaited" (i.e. highly anticipate) is negative. I think it is, and this is crazy, but trust me: a joke.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 10:02PM noyesa said

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@Kid A I'd say the fact that you were defending a game that needs no defending in a comment on a Forza 3 news-post sounds pretty fanboyish, but maybe my powers of deduction aren't so keen.

Gran Turismo is a press darling. Half of the Forza 3 reviews forfeited that it would inevitably be surpassed by GT5, a full year before GT5 would even come out. Even Halo wasn't afforded that kind of love when COD4 or whatever-this-week's-top-FPS is.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2010 10:33PM Kid A said

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@Acosta02

Fine, I'm sick of the jokes. Focus on the game. Provide impressions. Be objective. They should show that they give a crap - and whether the critics return with glowing praise or beat it into the ground, they could at least have a good reason for it. Instead...

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/19/gran-turismo-5-course-maker-and-kart-racing-unveiled/

@noyesa

Maybe I'm reading a different internet. Most of the FM3 reviews I read said no such thing, but again, I'm not trying to make this about Forza. Gran Turismo used to be a press darling - it hasn't been since GT3. Today it's considered a relic. I don't expect it to be 1998, Sony clearly has competition now that didn't exist at the time (which was what made the first game so appealing). Hell, I don't expect everyone to love it, because they probably don't get it, as all simulation racing games are treated a similar way among gaming journalists. But if they only tried to put in some effort, maybe they'd actually be able to form their own opinions, instead of jumping on the "GT5 is really, really old and boring" bandwagon.

Maybe I'm a fanboy. Maybe I'm taking this way too seriously. Probably both. But it's what I see all the time...


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Posted: Aug 24th 2010 12:22AM Fermie Prime said

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I don't know about you people but I WANT GT5 to beat the pants off FM3. I want GT5 to make FM3 look like childs play. Why? Because I'm a fanboy? Nope. Because Turn10 will not tolerate such a beat down and you better believe they will come out swinging when FM4 arrives. If anything, Turn10 loves a challenge. The GT series is the standard bearer from which Turn10 measures their success. If GT5 is as amazing as they say it is, the next Forza game will, mark my words, try to trump it.

Gotta love the competition. When companies compete, we win!
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Posted: Aug 24th 2010 12:29AM Leathersoup said

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Microsoft needs to push Kinect so they're going to force Turn 10 to churn out a Forza 4 as quickly as possible so that they can release another half baked Forza.
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Posted: Aug 24th 2010 1:11AM Fermie Prime said

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@Leathersoup
Well, Turn 10 did say that the next Forza "experience" will be in 2011. Seems like they are on a 2 year development cycle. Thats good and bad for gamers. Good in that we get another new game. Bad in that 2 years isn't enough time to really innovate their product. I wish Turn 10 would take a page out of the Polyphony Digital play book and spend a little more time on their games (not 6 years, but more time). The next Forza game needs to crank it up a notch or 3. The preview they showed at E3 was promising but I need to see more.
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Posted: Aug 24th 2010 8:58PM Leathersoup said

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@Fermie Prime

Yeah I think it has something to do with MS pushing them. They end up having to remove features in order to get the game out. One of the things that a lot of people were looking for in the last version was the video editing system.
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Posted: Aug 24th 2010 12:35AM Jacksy said

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@embassy you cant rush art. I think we all know what happens when you do.
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Posted: Aug 24th 2010 4:58AM Z3R0B4NG said

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Is there any information if the DLC Tracks will be properly included in the Singleplayer Mode?

AFAIK if you buy the DLC Tracks you can only play them online, since i do not want to pay for XBL Gold for the 5 days a Year i actually want to play online i did boycott the DLC Tracks.
They will be included in Forza 4 anyway.

How hard can it be to throw in some random races for those new tracks into this very random Singleplayer Carreer Mode?

Was the same shit with Forza 2.
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Posted: Aug 24th 2010 7:03AM embassy said

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@Jacksy

I wouldn't call a 2 yr development cycle "rushing". Plus as much as I agree that making great content takes time, it's also a business and games have to actually come out eventually. Otherwise every game would have 5 yr cycles, which would just be flat-out absurd.
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Posted: Aug 24th 2010 11:24AM EechuTah said

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@EechuTah,

I find it PATHETIC how idiots who roam this post DOWNGRADE such a TRUE fact.

Everything I just typed above is TRUE.
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