Borderlands Game of the Year Edition announced, all four DLC packs included

@Dirty
That's the fourth one.

@Dirty
"The package will include all four DLC add-ons"

@Grey Nah You can't but its a really good game. I was looking for it everywhere this weekend, sold out at all the places I went. This is a really good deal, I'd pick it up if I were you either way.

@Grey

Thanks for the info. I'll get it eventually. Probably when it's $40. This really isn't the type of game I'm into, but the co-op factor will make it more enjoyable. Me and bro were looking for a game to play with together online since we don't live that close to each other.

@Grey Really? That sucks...was never more annoyed than when I discovered I couldn't go online with my gf to play Risk Factions against other people on LIVE. Totally ridiculous.

@theangryheretic

No. No there is not. There's a thin dangle of a story. If you want an FPS with some story, Fallout 3's main plot is also a senseless dangle but it has many many MANY sidequests and exploration delineations as well. Of the two junky semiRPG FPS games, I'd go Fallout 3.

@ThePenIsMightier

I loved Fallout 3. But never played it in First Person. I've never understood the attraction to games in first person. It never grabbed me. But thanks for the info on the lack of a story in Borderlands. I can pass this one by and not worry about it.

@theangryheretic whoa i thought i was the only guy in the minority who doesnt "get" FPS games.. and i also loved bioshock demo.. picked it up last month. and thats the only FPS in my library (i dont count fallout 3 as one.. i played it in third person as well)..

@HardBoiled2009

I must have missed the RPG section, where was that again? Oh, getting experience points? Yeah, here's an experience point for you:XP does not equal RPG.

@ThePenIsMightier

Another RPG dismissive argument! Whoo, wheee! These are fun!

How is this not an RPG? Experience points isn't all that defines an RPG, you're right, but this game has multiple classes, spellcasting, character development/specializations, quests (mission synonym), weapon/upgrade/armor/etc. merchants, trinity system (tank/healer/dps), in-game currency, leveling up, etc.

How is it NOT an RPG? Please don't say that there isn't a pointy haired protagonist.

>merchants,

Resident Evil 4 was an RPG? Fantasy Zone was an RPG? Mario Brothers 3 was an RPG? NASCAR 2009 was an RPG? Onimusha?

>trinity system (tank/healer/dps),

It was also on a disc, just like an action/sports/simulation/shooter/puzzle game had, so it must be all of those! And all those genres had graphics too! Wow, this game borrows so much from every genre that it must BE every genre!

>in-game currency,

See countless above examples of action/sports games with currency. And of course there's currency, how do you have merchants without currency? Currency without merchants, Mario's obsessive coin gathering has shown us, works....but did you really think that counting currency BESIDE a merchant somehow made it separate points? Sim City has currency, is it an RPG?

>leveling up, etc.

Again we have cited several places where stats do not equal exclusive to the RPG genre, and again:how do numbers going up equal role playing? Progress Quest has ALL of the RPG elements you just described, but it literally has only two buttons/options:turn on, and turn off. That is an RPG to you?

It was no RPG. There was a strict non deviating linear story with no player input or options. You were as scripted as everything around you. You had no choice in your character's actions, your actions or inactions effected nothing. Bread crumbs. It was about as much an RPG as Mega Man was. You know, where you had "missions" and got "upgrades" so it is an RPG!

@ThePenIsMightier

As a regular pen and paper RPG player, I have to say penisnightier you're argument is "paper" thin to me. I'll start with a point you made near the end,

"It was no RPG. There was a strict non deviating linear story with no player input or options. You were as scripted as everything around you. You had no choice in your character's actions, your actions or inactions effected nothing. Bread crumbs."

By that definition ALL computer "RPG's" aren't RPG's because they give you 1, 2, 3 or perhaps a few more options with dealing with the story, not "limited only by your imagination" options a true RPG should have.
Your argument is also factually incorrect. I can choose to use a pistol to kill Sledge, an SMG or perhaps a sniper rifle(!). I can go in equipped with different mods, I can try hand to hand. The only thing that doesn't change is I have to kill Sledge in his safehouse. How I do it is up to me. Again not different at all to other computer game RPG's on the market. I don't recall more than 1 final boss fight in W.O.W. or any of it's expansions either, but it is considered a computer game RPG is it not?

The fact that Borderlands has a linear story doesn't discount it from the standards applied to computer game RPG's either. They're ALL rather linear and restrictive. Having more than 1 option, but still a finite amount even if you have 100 different choices for every interaction, would still be a scripted game and your characters actions would already have been defined by someone else, the programmer.

By your definition only EVE online makes it as a true RPG. Character options limited only by the players imagination.

@Solar Jetman

Yay double....pointlessness? What do you get for having double achievements? Other than my pity.

@ThePenIsMightier

Did this game touch up a member of your family inappropriately?

Why the hate?

Apart from getting online co-op working (not that hard but a hassle that didn't need to exist), and some collision detection issues, non of my friends or I have faced any great difficulty playing it on PC. I managed to get 3 characters to level cap(61) and have a couple more about halfway with no major issues. I also use an ATI (4870x2) so perhaps I should be having trouble hey, optimised for NVIDIA and all that shit.

Mind you same thing happened to me with Battlefield 2, but I thought that was universally condemned as crap on release. I don't hear the same level of condemnation with borderlands, so I reckon your just unlucky.

@Axcalibur

Yeah, I almost feel the same way. I didn't play it, but it looked really fun so I decided to hold off until they did an "all inclusive" pack and sure enough.

Though it didn't seem THAT long of a wait, oh well!