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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 10:29AM creid8 said

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How different will this be from DS-10 and DS-10 Plus? I already own both :/
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 11:08AM thesimplicity said

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@creid8 The biggest difference would be the M1's 16-note polyphony, plus an army of recognizable sample sounds. You know that overly compressed keyboard stab sound on every dance track? That's from the M1. If they emulate the M1 exactly, it'll be a totally different beast compared to the DS-10+.
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 10:42AM Styli said

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The DS-10 is great. I have high hopes.
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 10:51AM Nate Addison said

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Is this in any relation to .detuned, the only psn game that can be 100%'d in less than 2 minutes?
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 10:57AM DJ Kenneth A said

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OMG! I
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 10:59AM DJ Kenneth A said

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Apparently it didn't like the rest of my comment about my love the the DS-10 and Korg in general. ( Have the monotron, micro Korg, and some other things )
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 11:24AM Styli said

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@DJ Kenneth A

I'm with ya. I love all Korg gear. The microKorg is essential for every home studio!

@Nook

That'd be sweet but I reckon it'd be pointless. I've noticed a very audible aliasing on the DS output when connected to a decent sound system. Sounds a bit like hiss but falls off with the sound. However, if it came with companion PC software that it could control via WiFi that would be awesome. I know it's possible and I know of people experimenting with stuff like that.
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 12:16PM DJ Kenneth A said

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@Styli I've gotten pretty decent results with recording through the DS-10 though usually I have to record it onto my machine and then dump it into Soundforge to clean it up some.
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 11:08AM Nook said

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As a musician that records at home as well as being a gamer, I've wondered if these titles have the fidelity to send the signal out to a mixer and into the PC. Using this as a tool to create backing tracks. That could be fun.
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 12:17PM DJ Kenneth A said

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@Nook It works great for backing tracks. You just need to add other elements to fill out the overall mix. Otherwise it can sound kinda sparse. Like it does interesting bass sounds, but it won't give you a good bass to actually fill out the bottom end ( there is joke in there somewhere )
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 11:27AM Styli said

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You can get the M1 as a plugin/stand alone program. I have the M1LE running on a netbook but I can't imagine it running well on the DS. I'd love to be wrong though
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 12:10PM Alex R said

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Can it export to MIDI?
That would be worth goosing.
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 12:19PM DJ Kenneth A said

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@Alex R DS-10 can't. You'd have to probably find some way to rig up your DS to export midi. My guess is it's the limitations of the actual DS hardware rather then the cart for the midi export.
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Posted: Aug 31st 2010 6:50AM Unvrfd said

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There are homebrew apps that export to MIDI, so guess again.
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 3:40PM raindog469 said

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I still have my M1, standing on its end in the den, though the battery died years ago and hooking it up to the PC to sysex dump programs into it every time I want to use it is enough of a pain that I just do it in software.

For those who are wondering, this couldn't be more different than the DS-10. The M1 is completely sample-based, with rudimentary low-pass filters and a DSP that does up to two effects (usually reverb and chorus) at once. The entire sample set, drums and all, fits into 4 megabytes. It should actually be a lot easier for the DS to reproduce than the MS-10's analog oscillators and filters that the DS-10 was simulating, and will be much more useful to people who are trying to put together songs. On the other hand, it has far less character than the MS-10. No one will mistake M1 songs for chiptunes, but it has some very distinctive sounds that were used heavily in dance music in the '90s, especially the piano.

Sure hope the sequencer has greater capacity than the real M1 now that rewritable memory is so much cheaper. All your patches and songs had to fit into a total of something like 32K. At most, you could get 7700 MIDI events into the sequencer, including all notes and controller changes, a limit you'll hit in about 30 seconds if you use any pitch-bend in your songs. Not that I can really imagine an interface to allow you to pitch-bend while playing notes on a touch screen, but even without pitch bend, the songs you could record were not very long unless you kept it to a single instrument.

Regardless, I'll probably buy this if it gets translated, just as I bought the DS-10 and DS-10 Plus (and Electroplankton, and downloaded Nitro Tracker, etc.)
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Posted: Aug 31st 2010 4:20PM xxxsam said

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@raindog469 It is possible to replace the battery. :) There's one at my parents' too from way back when, same deal.

The sound quality on the original is pretty awesome (and it should've been - it wasn't cheap). I mean, digitally it isn't that impressive but I think the analogue components are top-notch, it really puts out some levels. Somehow, I don't think the DS version will have that. Also, the aftertouch on the keyboard was neat for that screaming electric guitar sound, and flute and stuff. Not sure how they'll do that on the DS either. :)

Personally, this doesn't sound so interesting to me (as DS-10) - I mean, I love that they're doing it, but I don't think I'll buy a copy. Agree with somebody else that I'd love a Kaoss Pad DS (although um, no audio input - Kaossilator maybe?) - but I bet those devices have more powerful components than a DS, so it's probably not possible. 3DS maybe...
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Posted: Sep 4th 2010 3:32PM raindog469 said

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@xxxsam I know it's possible to replace the battery. I've downloaded Youtube how-to videos on the subject. Just not much of a hardware guy, and there are free compositional tools now that make my m1 much more valuable as a MIDI controller than as a workstation.
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 3:46PM chispito said

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I wonder if it will be able to sync over wifi with the existing DS-10/Plus. I love love love the DS-10 Plus. It's a beautiful combination of simple and deep, technical and freeform.
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Posted: Aug 30th 2010 3:47PM L4our said

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Full Kaoss Pad emulation next, please.
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