Halo: Reach isn't even out in stores, but IGN has already found a way to exploit part of the game for the sake of easy Achievements. In this video, its outlines a surefire method for farming up a good amount of the game's cheevos by tweaking the customized Firefight system to be really hard and then giving yourself invincibility. Which means "you can basically shoot around in circles, and get massive amounts of points." Seems like fun ... we guess?
If nothing else, this shows off just how customizable the multiplayer system in Reach actually is. Bungie has made it so that the priority is coming up with fun gametypes with your friends, not just tweaking for as many points towards Achievement as possible. Not that we don't appreciate sweet, sweet cheevos, but that's not the only reason we're Firefighting against the Covenant, right? Right?
@Avolii I believe I heard it first at around episode 40 of the joystiq podcast. btw just a note, anyone not listening to that sweet, sweet podcast should jump on board RIGHT NOW.
Hell f*ckin no I'm not going to cheato for my cheevos. The only way I would consider this is if we get down the road 2 or 3 years from now and I still don't have these. Which I doubt will happen.
Yeah, because it's so much more fun to die over & over...
I think it is still JUST as fun. It's killing aliens either way. And that's what I want to do when I play Halo.
In fact, it's MORE fun because achievements that I might otherwise scoff at spending the time grinding out will now pop up during the course of an "easy" game. Big deal. We don't earn/win anything from achievements anyway.
Way to go IGN, make things harder on Bungie before launch why don't you? Now they have to spend the next few days slaving over a way to patch this. I guess it's better that they figure this out now so that when the game actually comes out there will be an update and when I get these achievements for real it won't be meaningless. Think of how big a bug this would have been if a game had found it after launch. Pretty much everyone would do this just because it's easy.
I would think that since Bungie designed the option to customize firefight they would know that you could customize firefight....Or in other words I doubt they care that some people will choose to get easy gamerpoints.
I doubt they meant it that way, they probably just overlooked that. I've designed a few small games and it's pretty easy to overlook something like that. The thing is, they probably don't go into the game looking to cheat so they probably never came across this. Idk, but I do know if I were them I would care... but I suppose that could just be me. We'll probably get an update on launch that will take away the ability to get achievements with skulls turned on in custom Firefight. That's a pretty simple, pain free, way to fix this.
@oJMan240o There's a 50,000 firefight points achievement that specifically requires you to do it with the standard rules. The other ones do not have this requirement.
Therefore it's obvious that Bungie intended us to be able to get these achievements with customization.
Does it mean that people can get it really easily with invincibility? Of course. But it also means we can get the achievements with our own super fun customized firefight rules.
Can anyone help me with the ODST achievements? Sorta off topic but I just got ODST last month and there is no Public matchmaking, so I need someone to help me with the Firefight missions. Add my GT: ph2802 if your willing to help.
@philmcfail I to found it rediculous that there was no matchmaking for Firefight.. those 200k points targets can take a while, I got to 50k+ solo.. team of 4 is really needed here
We can help each other out if you still have the game or are still willing to play. And yeah, the devs said that we don't need matchmaking because they thought we should only play with the people we know. The only problem with that ideology is that NOT everyone will always want and have the opportunity to play a game at the same time. There is where public matchmaking should of come in.
@philmcfail One thing to keep in mind is that playing Firefight with other people mean you have to score 200k in one sitting, with no breaks. If you play solo, you can pause the game, take a break/eat/whatever, and return where you left off, fully energized. I completed some maps with my friends, but did the more frustrating ones on my own (cuz they were getting pissed/bored easily and I tend to be more patient). I would help you, but I don't have ODST anymore.
@philmcfail For most maps, I found them easier to do on my own. If your having trouble with the vidmasters, there is a group called "The Spartan 1 Project" on Bungie.net that helps people get them. Link: http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/sip/Group/GroupHome.aspx
It might have taken me a year to get all the firefight achievements in ODST but damn it it was worth it, and if it takes me two years to get a million points in Reach that'll be worth it too!
Did you play firefight solo? I damn hard to find anyone that has ODST/willing to put it back in their disc tray to play now, and its only been out for less than a year.
@philmcfail i dont know why this didnt post the first time, but I got all the achievements except the two that required four players alone and within 2 months or so of release (with the exception of chasm ten) and even then it was hard to get all my friends together : /
@TheDarkWayne Hey what's your gamertag darkwayne? I can never find anyone else who wants to play co-op campaign / 4-player required achievements. Mine's EKAJ 31, if you're interested.
Meh. I never cared for the achievement. I just play like normal and eventually surprise myself. I'd rather just play and feel rewarded for earning gamer points instead of working for them.
Killpocalypse was apparently in Halo 3 as well... it just didn't have an audio file saying KILLPOCALYPSE! I think... that might have been Killionaire though. I'm not quite sure.
Then it was Killpocalypse. I remember my friend getting that riding around in a warthog one match and complaining about how he thought he didn't get it but should have because the game didn't say anything.
i figured this would be possible when they announced the achievements, you could get all of the firefight ones in one game that lasts less than an hour,(probably) but at least you can't cheat for the solo legendary achievement, that will take real manliness =)
IGN, you never cease to amaze me. However, you amazed me in a bad way this time. You basically showed us how to make a fun game...well, not as fun. Sure, hand of god, destroy everything, earn achievements. I get it.
I'll be earning these legit on the default settings.
They're achievement points... Who really cares how they're obtained? The satisfaction of earning them is not lessened by how others get them. I could care less if someone hacks, cheats, or takes a shortcut. Has no bearing on me and my enjoyment of the game.
Halo: Reach, developed exclusively for Xbox 360 by acclaimed developer Bungie, is the blockbuster prequel to the best-selling Xbox franchise of all time. It represents the culmination of Bungie's 10 years of experience crafting groundbreaking Halo games that have raised expectations for what can be achieved in a video game. In Halo: Reach, players experience the fateful moments that forged the Halo legend. It's the story of Noble Team, a squad of heroic Spartan soldiers, and their final stand on planet Reach, humanity's last line of defense between the terrifying Covenant and Earth. This darker story is echoed by grittier visuals amid a backdrop of massive, awe-inspiring environments. Characters, enemies and environments are rendered in amazing detail by an all-new engine designed to deliver epic-scale encounters against the cunning and ruthless Covenant. Once the campaign is over, the battle continues online with an unparalleled multiplayer experience that expands on the award-winning suite of features that helped define the Xbox LIVE experience.
