Metareview: Halo: Reach

@shadowhowl1900

WHAT?! IS THIS A JOKE?!

@TheMichaelJackson

Critics are spoiled people who cry because the game isn't what they want it to be. Halo: Reach is a FREAKING AWESOME GAME.

@The MARIO

Fanboys are people who cry when their games don't receive tens across the board.

I have no doubt that Reach is going to be great, and I know I'll be playing the hell out of it. At the same time, however, I have no illusions that it is going to be perfect.

If you like the game scores don't matter. I have a group of friends that love the Ninety Nine Nights series and play the hell out of it, despite the reviews it gets. They like the game and they don't care what other people think.

Just shut up and play it. If you like it so much then do your job and help bump it to the top of the XBL charts when it comes out Monday. That's what a real fan would do, not whine about what kind of recognition the game should get. 1) It doesn't need your help getting recognition, it's Halo for crying out loud, 2) you make yourself sound like a child.

The reviews for this game were honest OPINIONS of what people thought about the game. That's exactly what a review is supposed to be, an unbiased personal OPINION from someone who has the ability to back up their opinion with fact. Not simply just insult people they don't agree with.

@The MARIO i agree for the forst part, the second, how can you judge a game you never played? but im sure it will be freaking awsome

@oJMan240o Wow you are sooo in your own world. Lets not forget how God of War 3, a game with NO replay value, no multiplayer(not that multiplayer is required) and only a span of approx 9 hours of game play, got a perfect score from most reviews. Halo Reach is that one game out of thousands that does deserve its reckognition as a perfect 10.

@US 447

I'm not saying that it doesn't deserve recognition, and I'm obviously not alone in "my little world". The reviews from the people above, people who support their arguments unlike you, seem to agree with me.

I'm saying that it doesn't need people like you bitching in it's defense, especially when it's got a 94 on Metacritic and 0 negative or mixed reviews. How many games get 0 negative or mixed reviews? Hardly any.

Again, like I said, it doesn't need your help. Halo is massive, it's going to get its recognition. It's going to be at the top of all the XBL charts. Halo is so big that you can ask people who have never played a video game if they've heard of it and they will tell you yes the majority of the time.

And God of War didn't get 10s across the board, at the same time it's a triumph of storytelling that no Halo game will ever match. They are two completely different games in two completely different genres and should never EVER be compared. Comparing them is an insult to what each does best, and intelligence in general.

@shadowhowl1900


All halos get 9+s from the get go, like CoDs.

its all in the name.

@oJMan240o

"And God of War didn't get 10s across the board, at the same time it's a triumph of storytelling that no Halo game will ever match."
..............really?

I was with you for both of your posts, and then you have to go and say something as strange as this!

As a devote player of every God of War game, and equally dedicated Halo gamer, saying that God of War's storytelling is superior is absolutely 100% opinion based in no small part to most people's all around ignorance of the Halo Mythology.

Without a doubt, the God of War games have always had masterful visual storytelling, and have taken a more movie-esque approach to the player POV. However, in my own experience, Halo has ALWAYS proved to be a more compelling narrative. The story is far more elaborate and in-depth than the GoW series, and I personally just find it far more interesting.

Now that being said, I can understand how you might relate to GoW's story more- if you don't have all of the incredibly expansive back-story which goes along with the Halo mythology. I've read all of the Halo books, and I can therefore appreciate & enjoy the subtle references Bungie (ALWAYS) throws into their games... instead of finding them confusing, and having them just detract from my experience.

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On another note, I definitely get what you're saying about the "Fanboy's... Unite against this negative review!" attitude so prolific nowadays. I mean... freedom of speech right? Reviewers are not being paid to agree with you, they're being paid to review & critic!

@oJMan240o

"And God of War didn't get 10s across the board, at the same time it's a triumph of storytelling that no Halo game will ever match."
..............really?

I was with you for both of your posts, and then you have to go and say something as strange as this!

As a devote player of every God of War game, and equally dedicated Halo gamer, saying that God of War's storytelling is superior is absolutely 100% opinion based in no small part to most people's all around ignorance of the Halo Mythology.

Without a doubt, the God of War games have always had masterful visual storytelling, and have taken a more movie-esque approach to the player POV. However, in my own experience, Halo has ALWAYS proved to be a more compelling narrative. The story is far more elaborate and in-depth than the GoW series, and I personally just find it far more interesting.

Now that being said, I can understand how you might relate to GoW's story more- if you don't have all of the incredibly expansive back-story which goes along with the Halo mythology. I've read all of the Halo books, and I can therefore appreciate & enjoy the subtle references Bungie (ALWAYS) throws into their games... instead of finding them confusing, and having them just detract from my experience.
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On another note, I definitely get what you're saying about the "Fanboy's... Unite against this negative review!" attitude so prolific nowadays. I mean... freedom of speech right? Reviewers are not being paid to agree with you, they're being paid to review & critic!

@oJMan240o

Hah, I'm sorry, but did you say that God of War 3 is a "triumph of storytelling"? Did we play the same game? Hell, did we even play the same series? The story in God of War is not what makes the games awesome (especially when you have Kratos, who is a typical paper thin protagonist similar to Master Chief), it's the ability to wreak havoc on everything you come across, no matter how badly it may destroy the beloved Greek myths that you grew up reading. If you took that story seriously, and call it a "triumph", you need to read a book or two...Preferably not Twilight.

Reply Fail =/

*Looks around hoping nobody notices"

These are not the droids you are looking for...

@oJMan240o ATHENA?! YOU CONSPIRE AGAINST ME?! YOU WILL SUFFER FOR THIS!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqcw8cwFJzU
A triumph of storytelling, no doubt.

@oJMan240o So obviously your a ps3 fanboy to say GOW had a triumph in story telling. Apparenlty you've never played a halo game.

@Liquidfingers God of War and Halo are both quite similar in that they are bottom-barrel stories that are intended to be understood and appeal to 16 year olds and other individuals who are unable to understand anything more complex or, well, good. Laughably shallow and archetypal characters and derivative, uncreative plot devices. Video game story telling is no where near as good as classic literature or cinema, but by even these lowly standards Halo and GoW aren't near the top of the class.

@Themoreyouknow
Lotsa people got mad...

@Themoreyouknow

I upvoted you for the hilarity. Although it seems too many people were raging too hard to notice.

@Hyperion45
I figured so

@Themoreyouknow

It was a pretty dumb joke though.

@PipBoyV3

isn't it just goodbye halo? i remember reading that bungie had signed on with activision to make multiplatform games.

@Puertoricarious no Halo will continue under the mantle of 343 Industries and Microsoft Game Studios, but Bungie is off to Activision ( :[ ) to make a new series

@Ryuk

I think this is good on both fronts...even if Bungie is associating with the eViL Activision.

(1) Bungie will be off to create something fresh. This will help them from any stagnation and give them new goals and challenges.

(2) Having a new team work on Halo will bring a new perspective and perhaps great fan service to the series.

Though Bungie has been consistently awesome, when looking at examples like Star Wars it was Bioware, not Lucas Arts, that brought us the best Star Wars experience.

@Sinkwater

Not as facepalm inducing as that ridiculous pun at the end of that quote.

"Master Chief may be retired, but calling this a Halo game is no reach."

Oh god, I think my eyes just died.

@TheMichaelJackson


INORITE!??

It should have been 9001/10!

@TheMichaelJackson

It's crazy; I could have sworn they were going to give it a 7/10.

Just like everything else.

@TheMichaelJackson

Amazing I know. I guess that's that mark of an awesome game ;)

@TheMichaelJackson: It was a well written review. Probably the best one I read so far.

@Acosta02

http://www.metacritic.com/publication/eurogamer?filter=games

Why is everyone breaking Eurogamer's balls? I mean the link shows you all the previous reviews they games in the past, and they aren't that bad. They even gave Halo 3 a 10/10.

@philmcfail

Eurogamer actually gave a game 10/10!?

@TheMichaelJackson

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/halo-3-review?page=4

Yeah, and it wasn't just a 1 page review, the whole review span over 4 pages.

@philmcfail

"68% lower than the average critic"

"On average, this publication grades 8 points lower than other critics. (0-100 point scale)"

i think that's why.

@TheMichaelJackson the gave the lego harry potter game a 9 too.....

@TheMichaelJackson
Eurogamer's not particularly strict you know. In fact, there is only one reviewing site I am aware of that is actually strict, since in most cases of "strictness", it's just stupidity, and you certainly won't be finding it on metacritic.

@Jeffmoocow
4/5 isn't low.

Sometimes I think GB only does stuff like that to stay at the bottom of the list when you check the reviews at Metacritic.

After the BlazBlue review I don't even bother reading his reviews anyway.

@Jeffmoocow

Why? Blazblue was a major disappointment. I sold it only half a week after owning it. Huge waste of money. Besides the beautifully drawn art, the fighting system just wasn't my taste.

@Mofudos It's a joke, I know it isn't low but people on Giant Bomb in the comments are acting like Jeff murdered a baby or something because it wasn't a perfect score.

@Jeffmoocow - 4/5 isn't low. Having said that, the 1-5 scoring system that Giant Bomb and others use is far too blunt for my liking. You either give a game a 5/5, or people show up to complain about the 80/100 score that metacritic reports for your 4/5. That is why I like 100/100 scores. There isn't any ambiguity in a 93/100 score, or an 89/100 score for that matter. Then again, sites shouldn't have to change their entire scoring systems just to fit metacritic.

@Mofudos 4/5 doesnt sound low, but 80/100 sounds like they couldve done better. 4.5/5 wouldve been more appropriate in the sence it would be closer to the other reviews

4/5 seems justified by the review.

He says that it's still the same Halo game Bungie has been making for the last decade, just very refined and down to a science.

@Mofudos; 4/5 is low when it's shown as 8/10, 80 percent, or B-

If you compare that to 4/5 stars they gave other games, they're saying Reach is on par with games like Lara Croft, Hydro Thunder Hurricane, Madden NFL 11, and Puzzle Quest 2. I would tend to think 4/5 is a little low for Reach.

@Jeffmoocow
4/5 is low? Will this problem ever go away?

@Mouthsmasher 4/5 is a "Great game, might not be for everyone", it has nothing to do with what other games have gotten. It should not be translated into a 100 point scale and put onto Metacritic.

@Lerkero I really should have never made the comment in the first place without saying THIS POST IS A JOKE at the end.

I made the comment just because so many people seem to be mad over the score, like people over on Gamespy (I think) when someone did a review for Uncharted 2 where this "why so low" phrase first started.