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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:09PM Nolan North said

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Damn you Namco Bandai...denying me a localization role, HOW DARE YOU!

Posted: Sep 21st 2010 3:02PM PN04 said

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@Nolan North For them to deny a localization there has to be a reason, considering they know they can make more these days by offering the game to a wider audience. it has to be a cost vs income argument. The money it costs to localize, ship and market the game has to be less than they receive which means it will likely fall to another company to license the game and pay NamBan for the game and hope they can do all these things cheaper and still sell for a profit better than what it cost to license. sadly I dont think there's much money in it for the average import company like Atlus to bother trying... and if NamBan doesnt know how to sell it in the US they're just wasting their money because only the RPG hardcore minority will want to buy it and that doesnt pay their bills.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:11PM Jason B said

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That's ok, Namco. We all understand that you want to spend all of your time in creating 3D for a game that was released 4 years ago. Please, no need to listen to your consumer base.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:17PM ghostwolves said

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it pains me to know that america only gets about half of the tales games.

even when they come out with new enhanced versions on PSP or PS3 that give them a second chance to be brought over to america, they still choose to ignore us.

talk bad all you want about final fantasy, at least square never leaves us hanging even if it's something as paltry as chocobo racing.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:41PM AnderFREAK said

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@ghostwolves I know online petitions never work on their own, but sign this
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/petition-sign.cgi?ToVPS309
And let's flood namco bandai's email with requests to localize Vesperia PS3 and Graces.
Prove to them that releasing the games here would be worth their while!
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:19PM TheCollectiveX said

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Urge to kill...rising

I mad... >:(

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:23PM cylet said

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Hmph!!!

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:27PM finalstar2007 said

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All i can say is, F you Namco! i want the tales games! :(

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:28PM KenobiEagle said

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Why do they keep passing on NA releases? I'd love to try out a Tales game, but each time I hear about a new one, it turns out to be a JPN-only release. :(

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:38PM Gibbeynator said

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@KenobiEagle

Then it's a fairly good thing that Japan and the US are in the same Blu-ray region.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:17PM pika2000 said

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@KenobiEagle
Dubbing and localizing a game cost money. This is ported from the Wii, so it's unlikely that Namco wants to spend a lot of money on it.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:36PM Nordoyle said

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Every time there is news about Tales of series not being localized I die a little in side.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:43PM maddog0 said

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I understand why they don't localize the games, because it is a lot of work and would take a lot of money, and we haven't convinced them that a tales game for the wii would sell. But it doesn't stop me from being furious that it isn't coming here.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 7:46PM maddog0 said

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@maddog0 gah no edit button, this was in regards to the Wii version. But the same holds true for the PS3 in my opinion because I highly doubt they will localize the remake and leave out the original. But please feel free to prove me wrong Namco, because if you localize the PS3 version you have pretty much already localized the Wii version as well.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 8:05PM Suichimo said

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@maddog0

There has been one Tales of game on the Wii so far. That was the Tales of Symphonia spinoff. It sold BETTER than Vesperia did over here. The original Symphonia also sold well. Somehow, selling perfectly in line with Tales of numbers, around the 200k mark, means there is no market for it.

Namco is just run by a bunch of idiots.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 8:44PM maddog0 said

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@Suichimo you are right I wasn't thinking of DotNW, but I also think that sold well because of the connection to Symphonia.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 8:24PM knilsilooc said

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On the bright side, thanks to the recent PS3 hacks, this game has the potential to be translated.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 8:28PM ovoon said

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Is this why we haven't seen a single great JRPG since Lost Odyssey and Persona 4?! Because they're not localized?? Well that just SUCKS.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:33PM gatotsu911 said

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@ovoon
Naw, I'm pretty sure it's because there haven't been too many legitimately great games in the genre regardless this gen. Xenoblade and The Last Story look incredibly promising, though, and if those don't make it over I will be very unhappy.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 11:28PM Diodax said

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@ovoon

Most of the good JRPGs are being released in handhelds nowadays.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2010 12:31AM ovoon said

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@Diodax Exactly. That is a problem, because for one, I don't play handhelds, and I never will. And two, because the overall quality of what the game could've been, drops significantly.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 8:30PM wardob said

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It really is too bad that they refuse to localize so many of there games, because I absolutely love the series.

After playing Tales of Vesperia, I couldn't remember when I had so much fun with an RPG...

Oh wait, Tales of Symphonia. Good times.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 8:38PM Mach2 said

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Quick question:
What the hell is up with Japan and heterochromia?

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:16PM CaptainProtonX said

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@Mach2

Happens with cats. Might as well add that to the "furry" obsession.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:25PM Coriakin said

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@CaptainProtonX

and dogs as well. Dogmeat in Fallout 3 has heterochromia.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:57PM Naru now in 3D said

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@Mach2

They like gaudy, cool-looking flashy things. Such as ridiculously shiny-colored heterochromic anime eyes.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:09PM Geo Holyhart said

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I was waiting for this! Say it isn't so!

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:15PM pika2000 said

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Well, PS3 games are not region coded, so that's the bright side.
Releasing a PS3 game in the US cost a ton of money as Namco will have to dub and localize the whole game to English (God forbid US gamers listen to a foreign language). So I don't think this will be a priority.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:23PM CaptainProtonX said

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@pika2000

(God forbid US gamers listen to a foreign language)

I don't mind hearing it if it MAKES SENSE.

Guess what! A good portion of Japanese dialogue sometimes doesn't make sense.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:36PM pika2000 said

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@CaptainProtonX
Errr, okaay, so what's your point? You don't want to see/hear anything that doesn't "make sense" to you? :rolleyes:
Your response is proof of my point, that US gamers only want dubbed and localized games since anything foreign apparently "doesn't make sense" to them, and doing so cost a lot of money. I don't think Namco wants to put that much effort on a game ported from the Wii.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:39PM DokiDokiBawanga said

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@CaptainProtonX except target audience for this games in US and Europe is anime watching audience that always want Japanese voices because eng voice acting in Japanese games suck. all they have to do is translate text.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 10:08PM Naru now in 3D said

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@CaptainProtonX Wait what? By "doesn't make sense," do you mean "I don't speak Japanese and therefore don't understand it."???

Because right now, sir, you are not making sense.

@DokiDokiBawanga

Exactly. The likelihood that I buy a JRPG goes WAY UP when it includes the Japanese voice acting. I'm sure me and a lot of other American fans would *love* to buy Tales of Graces with English subtitles and the Japanese voice acting.

Too bad Namco doesn't seem to understand that.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 10:27PM TacoHell said

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@Naru now in 3D Actually, that's Sony's fault because they require for there to be an English track in all their games, which is why so many few Namco games get brought over here as Namco hates to spend on dubbing.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2010 2:09AM pika2000 said

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@TacoHell
"Actually, that's Sony's fault because they require for there to be an English track in all their games,"
True, for disc-based game. Not for download though.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2010 3:55AM TheDread said

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@pika2000 I do wish some games just got subtitles. I really do not mind reading and it would make so many games available. One can dream :)
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Posted: Sep 21st 2010 3:13PM PN04 said

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@pika2000 The truely sad part of sony's requirement of english VO is that most people who buy JRPGs are anime fans who would prefer the original japanese vocals to a badly produced english dub. They think they're making it easier for a wide audiance to approach the game but the reality is they're only making it harder for the true fans to get an accessible version.

I do however applaud the new Import store that's coming to PSN alloing us to get our hands on a lot of games that we couldnt before but I dislike that they'll be completely untranslated meaning it'd be easier to pull out a modded PS1 and play a bootleg version with a fan translation of some of the games they may be releasing than to buy the official game and that's ridiculous.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2010 3:22PM xxxsam said

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@Naru now in 3D
Maybe he meant he does speak Japanese and still doesn't understand it? At least, that's the only way I could make his comment, er, make sense. Except it doesn't, because if it doesn't make sense in Japanese, the English translation probably won't make sense either.

I only played the GameCube Tales game but the story (in English, I mean) was certainly fairly nonsensical... and it was a good game, but way too long.

It does seem a bit odd that these aren't being localised. There could be some reasons in addition to ordinary costs, though; for example, the developers might have coded it in a useless way that means it's very hard to localise, and they're busy on some other project and don't want to take time out to do the necessary fixes.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:28PM Coriakin said

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"Considering Namco Bandai America's reluctance to localize the franchise..."

That's because Namco Bandai America thinks we only play Tekken and Naruto....curse them.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:32PM KibaFang said

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They should just translate it to english subs, like they did with Yakuza 3. That game was in Japanese with english subs, yet was able to sell enough in america and Europe to justify a Yakuza 4 next year in america. If they want to cut costs, just release it for the ps3 in english subs, with Japanese dubs. It will lower the cost for them, and allow us to play the game at-last.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:58PM AnderFREAK said

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@KibaFang I'd be more than pleased with this, in fact I'd almost prefer it, that way we won't have to deal with a potentially painful english dub (i know the tales of series aren't the worst at this, but they're still not great) Plus if it means I get to play it and understand it, I'd be overwhelmed with joy.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 11:02PM barrit said

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@AnderFREAK

I'm with you on that one as well. I just prefer to have a game in it's original form with subtitles. When I got FFXIII, I got the Chinese version that had Japanese voices and English subtitles and menus. Of course if a game has dual audio, then that's even better for both sides of the fence.

What happened with Yakuza 3 is a very good example of what more companies should do when they are skeptical to release a franchise to other regions.. o well, I guess we can still hope!
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Posted: Sep 21st 2010 3:17PM PN04 said

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@KibaFang The problem is Sega had to lobby hard to be allowed to only release the game with english subs because sony requires import games to have english voices. I think the only reason why they got away with it on Yakuza was because it's specifically telling a story about japan that they couldnt just slap a few english words on the signs and pretend it took place in LA.
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Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:35PM DokiDokiBawanga said

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well f'ck Tales.. i already given up on it. not releasing PS3 ToV was last drop.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 9:35PM gatotsu911 said

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Honestly, as far as I'm aware Namco Bandai, especially in the US and EU branches, has done pretty much nothing worthwhile this gen - in fact, they've done pretty much nothing worthwhile since they were just Namco and Bandai.

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 10:16PM Vhayste said

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Its a shame. If only I can understand japanese. :(

Posted: Sep 20th 2010 11:53PM schpelTiger said

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"Graces F doesn't appear to have as much new content integrated into the game as the PS3 version of Vesperia."

Completely disregard the added story content to the end of the game why don't you...

Posted: Sep 21st 2010 1:13AM Kevadu said

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I imported Vesperia PS3 and there's a good chance I'll import this...

It's actually a great way to practice my Japanese skills.

Posted: Sep 21st 2010 4:49AM Shilova said

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God I want this game so bad, I'm going to have to figure out someway to import it like the others lol. But seriously, c'mon namco! IM SICK OF READING TRANSLATION FAQS! lol

Posted: Sep 22nd 2010 3:53AM schpelTiger said

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@Italian Alphamale Haha, what?

Posted: Sep 23rd 2010 3:00PM jeremy2020 said

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It's silly not to localize this.

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