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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 9:35AM nightmare452 said

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$15 !!!

I expected $10 for a game like this since its episodic, will unfortunately not buy it at $15. Shame on you Sega.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:08AM Pinto said

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@nightmare452

Same issue here. I wouldn't feel as reluctant to blow $15 on it if Sonic's console record wasn't so bad. It also is scary that it has that episode 1 in the title, that really questions Sega's pricing if it is indeed episodic.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:10AM Mayor West said

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@nightmare452

Me too. It's probably going to end up being $60 for the full game. It looks great, but that's too much.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:14AM 216 said

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@nightmare452: I agree that $15 is alot, but I'll still get it prolly
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 12:14PM EatSleepChuck said

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@Mayor West

I didn't think about it like that, but yeah, that perspective sorta puts a damper on things.

Honestly though, if Sonic 4 episode 1 turns out to be anything as epic as Sonic 3 or S&K (or by my wettest dreams, Sonic 3 & Knuckles), then I'd say it's worth $15.

Does anyone know how many episodes there'll be, or will that be dependent on sales?
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 12:55PM Juri said

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@nightmare452 15 bucks for a game or 15 bucks for some DLC on call of duty.

Yeah i'll go with a actually great game.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 12:56PM Juri said

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@Juri Meaning Sonic 4 of course.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 2:09PM ll features ll said

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@Juri wow, are you actually complaining about about what is effectively little under £10..... talking as a man who happily drinks most of his little wage, I cant see the harm in tossing a tenner this way, at least it'll last longer than the weekend....... well probably not, but I can always say its still there!

How stingey can you get, its a fully featured game at a whimsical price, Ill happily be flashing all (GASP) ten pounds for this.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 9:35AM FrozenPlasma said

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So the new thing to sell are HD collection/remakes for every game from past generations?

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 9:44AM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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@FrozenPlasma

Clearly this is not a remake. Sonic 4 takes place after Sonic & Knuckles/Sonic 3.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:29AM Ashkental said

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@Captain Planet Planeteer Power

Sonic atually has a story?!

Wow! That's mindblowing!
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 12:57PM Juri said

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@Ashkental Not as mind blowing as what Captain Planet did to save the environment in your mothers bedroom.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 2:52PM powersurge360 said

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@Juri It wasn't a mind being blown in that bedroom.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 3:39PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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@Juri

It's true. You could say she even, blew my mind.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 4:54PM RupeeClock said

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@Captain Planet Planeteer Power
I'd rather call it a remake, for what's meant to be a sequel to S3&K, it recycled EVERYTHING from Sonic 1&2.
There's like no creativity in the level design.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 5:03PM Captain Planet Planeteer Power said

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@RupeeClock

Because you've seen 100% of the game right?
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 9:38AM Dark Archon PSN Archonik XBL Dar said

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A little bit expensive for something that's only an "Episode"... Was hoping for $10. How long is it, anyway?

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 9:48AM Prox said

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@Dark Archon PSN Archonik XBL Dar
It's long enough to satisfy ;D
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:07AM Exu said

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@Dark Archon PSN Archonik XBL Dar
It's about as long as Sonic 3. Four levels per zone (albeit one's a boss level), four zones, and then a final boss level at the end.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 12:11PM EatSleepChuck said

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@Exu

Just curious, but where did you find that info? From what I remember, Sonic 3 & Knuckles had about 2 acts per zone, with each act having its own boss.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 3:03PM Exu said

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@EatSleepChuck Leaks. It goes Act 1, Act 2, Act 3, Boss for each Zone, except for the final Zone which is a single level.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 9:39AM squallgengar said

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I want to believe...but I feel like this road ends only in tears. There better be a demo. I don't think I can take it on faith that it'll be good just because it has a number in the title.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 9:41AM squallgengar said

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This isn't a collection or remake. It's a brand-new game...not that that's exactly a selling point with Sonic's current pedigree.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 9:41AM squallgengar said

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@squallgengar

Really Joystiq. Please fix the replying system. I love you guys, but damn...
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 9:47AM DeXterminator said

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I usually don't bitch about the pricing on XBLA games, but 15 BUX, C'MON!!!???!!!

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 9:57AM shattercross said

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15 bucks is a little steep for a game that isn't really complete.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:06AM Exu said

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High prices for episodic games don't work. Penny Arcade died because of it, nobody bought Watchmen (but those games were crap anyway), Krome will probably die before Blade Kitten E2 can get released...
Heck, Sonic 4 will survive simply because of Sonic fans who'll buy anything Sonic even though Sega hasn't gotten Sonic right since 1994. People like me. D:

I'd even go as far to say that episodic games in general don't work unless your name is Telltale and the game isn't Wallace & Gromit.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:09AM Exu said

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@Exu Oh yes. Replying to my own post is lame but I forgot something.

You know how the entire game got leaked and hence Sega had to change it because it sucked a bit worse than the final product will?
I'd just like to bring this to your attention:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9369/192168169image2noscale.jpg
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:32AM SystemPatch said

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@Exu

That's cause Telltale's the only one to get episodic gaming right. They have a set time frame for when each part releases, which is no more then 2-3 months apart from each other, then selling them in a bundle for usually $35, which equates to $5 an episode. (unless it's for the Wii, then it's $10 an episode.)

The idea of episodic gaming is to lessen development costs and speed up development by releasing a game in parts. Unfortunetly, everyone's got the idea that it's ok to sell parts of a game for $15, leaving them with a promise that there's more to come, but only if they spend another $15 once they finally finish it, if ever...
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:41AM The Aquacharger said

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@SystemPatch
Even then the Wii also gets Sam and Max seasons on disc for $20, and now it's a month an 1-2 weeks for release time for their games.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:43AM The Aquacharger said

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@Exu
I'll be a massive minority here but I liked the Watchmen games. I didn't pay $15 an episode though. I got them when I bought the movie. Granted I paid $20 for the movie's director cut and both games, I see it as getting the games free. Maybe why I'm not dissapointed. Now had I paid $15 an episode I could be saying a different story.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 11:15AM SystemPatch said

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@The Aquacharger

Sam & Max: True, but those games had been out for so long that by the time they got ported to the Wii, it wouldn't make sense to NOT put them on one disk (per season). There was no episodic timeline to worry about either.

Unfortunetly, for whatever reason, they can't bundle together Strong Bad or Monkey Island on the Wii like they do for the PC and other consoles. For what goes for $20/35 on one platform, goes for $50 on the Wii.

As for the release time frame, I admit, they got the process so streamlined now that anything later then 2 months is a worst case scenario.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 12:41PM The Aquacharger said

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@SystemPatch
They're working on bundles for the Wii last I heard. Dunno if it's still true, but Sam and Max season 3 comes out for the Wii soon aswell.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:22AM Zertoss said

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$15? I guess I can understand since the first episode is a risk, plus development costs will be higher initially.

But the next episode had better be a lot cheaper.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:38AM The Aquacharger said

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I'll just wait for a PSN bundle price

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 10:59AM Perfidious Sinn said

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So, this is as long as Sonic & Knuckles, yet it costs $10 more.

Brilliant.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 11:04AM superdarrin said

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$15. You expect us to pay $15 for the first part of an episodic game.

How about NO.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 11:09AM PuppyT said

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This comes out a week before Super Meat Boy. It better not steal some of the show from Team Meat. Those guys have put their heart out for Super Meat Boy, and I'd be VERY disappointed if this Sonic eclipses it. Though I guess if its great, it deserves it, and I'm sure the people working on it worked really hard too... I'm just a little disappointed they're coming out in the same bubble :/

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 11:20AM The Hale said

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Geez. Looks like shit and is priced like shit too.

I thought we were friends, Sonic, but you can suck my ass if you're gonna be like that.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 1:42PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said

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@The Hale

How exactly does it look like shit? It looks great. But yes, it is overpriced
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 8:52PM The Hale said

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@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2

Look at how he runs, jumps... The fact that it's only the first episode that has four levels...
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 11:28AM Orangekun said

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Huh... they sold 'new' mario for 50 bucks

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 11:42AM Cleric said

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35 for Sam and Max Season 3 is you preordered. That's.. 6 episodes?

I don't think Sega gets how episodic works.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 12:43PM The Aquacharger said

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@Cleric
You can still get each season for $35 or buy them all for $50.
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Posted: Sep 28th 2010 1:13PM DarkTetsuya said

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$15 for half/a third of a Sonic game?

Thanks anyway SEGA. :(

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 1:48PM superfrog1993 said

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I would've much preferred if they made it a whole retail game with extras and stuff. Maybe at a slightly discounted price. The two-player race in sonic two was cool.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 3:00PM supersonic124 said

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Damn it SEGA I was planning to buy this to support you guys and stuff. But now I'm just gonna pirate it 1200ms points is WAY too much for a episodic game.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 3:12PM LittleMofreaky said

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Does it work with the classic controller pro?

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 4:48PM cmurph said

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I'm frighten that its going to suck BIG TIME.

Sonic's movements in the trailers just seems really unnatural and awkward to me.

Posted: Sep 28th 2010 5:55PM NIck PSN ID Rattlehead91 said

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You know, SEGA should just bundle this game in its entirety "for free" with some crap 3D Sonic game and I bet it would sell more than this approach probably will. $15 for each episode of a platformer? I wasn't interested in this game in the first place and now I care even less about it.

You might as well go out and buy one of the many Sonic compilations or if you have a 360 buy the HD remake of the first Sonic. You'll probably have a better experience.

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