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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 1:47AM ArchiGamer said

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Well he's such a downer... :(
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 1:50AM ArchiGamer said

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@ArchiGamer

Also, WHERE is this Joystiq, I find myself magically on this post and can't honestly find it anywhere else on the site.

What magic is this?
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:20AM sonicspike41 said

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@ArchiGamer

They have this cool feature that lets them create an entire story and apparently auto-post it at a certain time. This sometimes results in a story appearing on the front page briefly before the scheduled post time.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 9:53AM Playace said

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Party pooper. A valid argument I suppose but I will choose to ignore it, because it suits me :P

I'm happy to wait anyway and save up some money, if there are as many good launch titles as I think there might be, I'm gonna need it.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 9:55AM Pie in the sky said

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What is wrong with this guy????
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 9:57AM Berzerk said

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Prove him wrong Nintendo! March 31st for $249.99!
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:49AM Milky1985 said

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@Berzerk

hes already proven himself wrong, he orgionally said $300 i believe
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 9:58AM InfinitiProject said

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I just want to strangle this guy. When has he ever been right in anything he so-call "analyzes"?
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:26AM GuitarHero666 said

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@InfinitiProject

This guy said and I quote:

"Sent to die. I think Borderlands is the definition of a game that should have had it’s own window and not be up against all this stuff," explains the silver-tongued fox. "It’s absolutely the same audience. I don’t think it’s as much an RPG as they would like us to believe. If it’s an RPG, Dragon Age is going to kick its butt; and if it’s a shooter, Call of Duty or something else is going to kick its butt."

http://www.destructoid.com/pachter-borderlands-has-been-sent-to-die--152425.phtml

Borderlands has 4 DLC expansions and has sold over 3 million copies.
Now that's a sweet death if I ever saw one.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:34AM superdarrin said

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@InfinitiProject I can't recall him ever being right.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:52AM bxgt said

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@GuitarHero666 Well this was the same man that said gta was doomed to fail.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 9:58AM Hawkz900 said

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The Pachter has spoken! Seriously though I'll buy a 3DS on day, but in this economy that's a bit much for a handheld or am I the only one?
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:45AM hxczuner said

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@Hawkz900 Well, according to our presidential fiscal advisors we've been out of our recession for well over a year. Obviously you have nothing to complain about anymore... :P
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:48AM HTCEVO said

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@Hawkz900

Not at all.. I honestly don't understand where all these guys on the comments section are coming from when they say they'll be buying this day one. If you buy a 3DS and two games, you'll be out over 400 dollars! I just can't justify that for a handheld, even if it's really really cool.

Plus, I'd like to see Sony's new handheld to make a choice between the two.

Not like I'm losing out or anything. The good games always come out later, and I'm for one, sick and tired of having a Nintendo or Sony handheld that's been replaced by the next year.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 7:51PM SoCoolCurt said

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@HTCEVO

i'm with you. it's a really cool piece of hardware and i do really want one but $250 for a handheld is outrageous. i know i'll get one eventually though since this is the first DS since the DS Lite came out that makes me want to ditch my old one. i feel like $150-$200 is a fair price range for handhelds these days with $180 being the sweet spot for brand new hardware. it will sell like crazy though regardless of what they charge for it, you can be sure of that, but i won't buy one unti it hits that sweet spot.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 8:04PM SoCoolCurt said

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@SoCoolCurt

and yea i really want to see what Sony has in store for the oft rumored PSP2 as well before i make any more handheld purchases. my DS Lite works fine right now so it's not a priority but my launch PSP is pretty much done so that would probably get replaced first.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:03AM saturn118 said

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Why does the gaming press still follow what Micheal Pachter has to say? All he ever does is point out the obvious or get things completely wrong.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 12:04PM oO Wallace Oo said

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@saturn118

60% of the time, he's right every time
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 2:51PM Mr Fister said

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@saturn118

Pachter's more of a mouthpiece for certain publisher's interests than a credible analyst nowadays. Basically, he just gets hired by some third-party companies to say what they want to happen instead of actually making any impartial predictions based on credible evidence (which is not easy in the best of times, but still). That's why he keeps predicting negative outcomes for anything Nintendo-related, and why most of said predictions end up incorrect.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:04AM David Black said

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He actually sounds half-intelligent in these comments. Which is more than I can say for most of his "analysis".
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:13AM DeeZeee said

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Aww I wanted it to be $300 :-( Expensive gadgets make me feel cool...
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:14AM Temidien said

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Thank you, Pachter, for again giving us a shot in the dark to argue about all day.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:18AM PooPooKaKaBumBum said

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Good god, Pachter is such a giant douche.

Why does this man continually get a forum on gaming blogs when he does nothing but advocate ripping off gamers?
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 11:40AM PersonOfSorts said

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@PooPooKaKaBumBum

He's said it himself -- he'd much rather be quoted in the Wallstreet journal, not gaming blogs. That's what his clients actually read.

Nintendo is not a charity. They're in this to make money -- just like any other business entity. Pachter stating the incredible obviousness of this is not "advocating ripping the consumer off." It's stating facts. Dude's actually really smart too, and he deserves more credit for his knowledge of the business side of gaming. Gaming blogs typically latch onto a 5 word quote cause it makes a headline that'll get hits. It's nice to hear a little more.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2010 3:38AM Dudimus24 said

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@PersonOfSorts HERE HERE!!!
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:21AM Hellios said

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Seems kinda expensive, looks like I'll be waiting for the "homebrew" community before I buy a 3DS.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:21AM BenX02 said

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But Reggie!.. He promised! :(
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:23AM acefondu said

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LOL "wealthy consumer" he says. He does realize our gaming populace does consist of people (like me) that will forgo normal living standards for a few months to shell out for this. In other words, not at all wealthy just a die-hard fan.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:24AM Integral said

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I'd pay $300 for the 3DS maybe even $350 if the launch games are awesome. So $250 is a great price for me.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:28AM shinkie said

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Isn't he nearly always wrong? I don't know how he still has a job.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 4:34PM Integral said

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@shinkie
Do you remember the Wii or the DS and how well they sold?
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:28AM Prince David said

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I will definately buy it for 250$, I better start saving!
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:30AM Cube said

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€250 Euros and £200 in the UK? He certainly hasn't looked at the European market before with how low he's put the UK price compared to the Euro price...
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:31AM HasteMakesWaste said

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No one trusts reggie's word anymore, thats why he got roasted in the E3 vid.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:42AM AmericanNinja said

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patcher is wrong. $299.99
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 10:42AM AmericanNinja said

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pachter*
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 11:03AM Hawkz900 said

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Good call! All I know about PSP 2 is the MK team has one but Sony is awfully quiet about it...
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 3:24PM Hank Hill said

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@Hawkz900 Presumably they're waiting for all the 3DS hype to die down a bit before they say anything about the PSP2. Either that or they're waiting for E3 2011.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 11:23AM chuckharms said

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Thanks for ANOTHER pointless Michael Pachter story, Joystiq. Everybody knows by now how the Wii was priced. I guess Michael has to make one prediction that's pretty much a sure thing so he isn't ALWAYS wrong.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 12:35PM Jacksy said

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I think im the only one that thought the Wii was too expensive.. I mean sure it was priced less than the other consoles but that certainly doesn't make it so. It has reused hardware with no HD and only Wifi.. what the hell ? I like my wii for some Nintendo games but it was expensive for what it was.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2010 3:36AM kentuckyfried said

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@Jacksy

The big disappointment is that alot of us shelled out for it but then the games never really came, it's a console that exists seemingly to satisfy hardcore nintendo fanboys.
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 1:14PM niubi said

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Doesn't necessarily have to be so - you can always find discounts on DubLi and eBay that are fully warranted and so on. I won't be buying one anyway, prefer me some PC gaming action :)
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 1:33PM tchuks said

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"they should have sold the Wii for $300 and made an extra $50 of each Wii sold"

When Wii came out no one knew it was going to be as big of a success as it was (not even Nintendo). He can't say they should increase the price by $50 just because if it was $300 it may not have had that impulse buying price point at the sweet spot of $250 and may not have sold well at all. The price helped bring in the demand and success of the Wii, at any other price it may not have sold that well.

This guy is an analyst... but he doesn't understand how a $300 console and a $250 console have entirely different sales dynamics. Especially for the Wii which was described as not having the power of the Xbox/PS3... Looking back you can say "should have could have would have" but there is no way Nintendo could have known for 2 years the Wii will sell out, and they can't raise the price of a console AFTER it's out, and releasing it initially at a higher price may not have lead to the huge success (no one knows).
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Posted: Sep 30th 2010 3:37PM Imperial said

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@tchuks

Indeed. It's easy for Pachter to look back in retrospect and say the price was wrong. Part of the Wii's success was the low price point. Eternal shortages just added to the perception that it was the console to own compared to PS3s and 360s sitting on the shelves.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2010 3:34AM kentuckyfried said

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Nintendo should price it at $200 tops...it's a high ceiling, but not too unreasonably so.

Anytime you start shooting off into the $250-$300, that's just too much for a handheld, I might as well just buy another ps3 while I'm at.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2010 4:13AM AWESOMEUSERNAME 1 UNO said

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@kentuckyfried
agreed. way too much for mass market appeal (for a handheld). but the business major in me screams, "its branded Nintendo, it'll sell" . that being said, the only mobile gaming i do since high school has been on an iphone. the 3D factor is the only thing that would compel me to buy this.
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Posted: Oct 1st 2010 10:38AM ChomskyKnows said

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fortune cookie: "you will face changes today"
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