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Posted: Oct 7th 2010 11:18PM Nintendo Tim said

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@prettybetty2010 - Did...have...OK, I must have missed something.

What in the /hell/ are you babbling about?
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Posted: Oct 7th 2010 11:06PM DJMaxxi said

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I love Nintendo's courage to challenge themselves and still overachieve for the gaming public. Thank you Nintendo, thank you.

Posted: Oct 7th 2010 11:08PM neoand12 said

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So the Legend speaks.

Posted: Oct 7th 2010 11:12PM Pie in the sky said

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@prettybetty2010 This is getting ridiculous.

Posted: Oct 7th 2010 11:17PM bunnyraven said

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@prettybetty2010

umm....can I request a side order of banhammer for seƱor pretty?

OT: didn't the n64 also use a ricoh cpu as well? guess ninty and ricoh go way back

Posted: Oct 7th 2010 11:34PM Maddux said

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So...what's the source on this? Is there an unmentioned article or was the post author sitting in the room with them at Nintendo?

Posted: Oct 7th 2010 11:35PM Maddux said

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@Maddux

Nevermind. The mobile version didn't show the source link. I feel like an ass.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2010 11:44PM GerbilSoft said

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"Uemura shared how the Famicom came to use its (at the time) unusual 6502 processor."

Unusual in 1981? Considering 6502 and its derivatives were present in pretty much everything, including the Atari 2600 (6507), Atari 8-bit computer line, Commodore VIC-20 and 64 (6510), and the Apple II series, among others, I don't think it was *that* unusual. I suppose this provides some insight into why Nintendo likes to pretend that it's impossible for anyone who isn't them to know how to program their consoles.

Posted: Oct 8th 2010 12:12AM sonicspike41 said

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@GerbilSoft

I wasn't around at the time to know what used what, but I kinda agree with you on that one.

From reading the source interview he first makes it seem like the device was a nightmare because it was so difficult, then calls it a blessing because no one would know how to work it, then says other companies almost immediately began to reverse engineer it and make their own arcade ports.

History tells us they made the right choice, but he makes it seem like they cast the 80s-equivalent of the Cell into the world without a word and other people magically learned how it worked in no time.

Of course I'm probably just tired and ranting more than I should. All I took from this interview was that software and, 3 years later, quality control is what saved the industry, not hardware.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2010 12:23AM Faenix said

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@GerbilSoft

They said 6502 not the 7 or 10 varients.

Maybe the 6502 was harder compared to the 7 and 10?
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Posted: Oct 8th 2010 12:29AM GerbilSoft said

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@Faenix: This is like saying it's harder to program a system with 64 KB memory than it is to program a system with 8 KB memory.

6507 is a 6502 with only 8 KB address space (6502 has 65 KB) and no external interrupts.

6510 is a 6502 with extra I/O pins.

Besides those changes, they're identical CPUs.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2010 12:59AM GerbilSoft said

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Bah, of course I meant 6502 has 64 KB address space. (Numerical confusion since the CPU starts with a 65.)
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Posted: Oct 8th 2010 1:03AM c0bra95 said

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@Faenix

The 6502 was present in the Atari 800 computer, which was introduced in 1979. The Apple II also had it, and it's even older than the Atari micro. I worked extensively with this CPU, and it's no harder to program than an 8088, the PC's introductory 8-bit CPU.
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Posted: Oct 8th 2010 9:15AM TheGrandHero said

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@GerbilSoft

According to the article, it was unusual because it didn't see widespread use in *Japan*. Remember, the PC experienced a fairly different line of evolution over there. Considering the 6502's laundry list of undocumented quirks, it doesn't seem like a jump to say it would have been difficult for Japanese companies to work with, especially since the documentation in their native language would have been even worse and more sparse.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2010 11:54PM Apollo26 said

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I want those guys to sign my yellow tainted NES......:P

Posted: Oct 8th 2010 11:26AM pluupy said

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@Apollo26
That's strange I could've sworn my SNES was white when I bought it.
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Posted: Oct 7th 2010 11:55PM Hayatoblaze91x said

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....and now we have Donkey Kong everywhere...from our homes (consoles) to our pants (handhelds).

Posted: Oct 8th 2010 12:12AM sonicspike41 said

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@Hayatoblaze91x

Is that a banana in your pocket or are you just happy?
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Posted: Oct 8th 2010 11:27AM pluupy said

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@Hayatoblaze91x
Let's not forget our Playstations. Ooo!
Enemy territory!
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Posted: Oct 8th 2010 7:31AM Teh Rei said

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Nintendo.
What game was your inspiration to make the SNES?

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