MAG developer diary showcases Move support

@Nook

I use Move with MAG exclusively. It's damn fun. I love it way more than the Dualshock. It's even helped me more accurately shoot damn paratroopers!

@Sylvrfonic very nice video... hell i might pick up move and MAG now after watching that

@Sylvrfonic I have to agree with you on the MAG move support. I was playing MAG since January with a break for a few months to play Monster Hunter Tri. I came back to it a few weeks before MAG 2.0 arrived. I've used the Splitfish for PS3 with MAG because dual analog is too clumsy for FPS games. I was hoping that Move would be better for MAG because FPS games on Wii usually work pretty good. Well, after a few hours of play with Move, it frustrated me so badly I was ready to stop playing the game altogether. Move is clumsy and the video shows it when there were instances where the player had an enemy a few feet in front of him and couldn't hit him. Default settings were "ok" at best. I was able to rank 3rd or 4th in my squad but i couldn't seem to get the accuracy I needed to consistently kill someone in plain view. I could do this a lot easier with the Splitfish so I went into the settings and tried to adjust things. Well, it only go worse. At one point, I played 5 matches with Move trying to adjust the settings as I went and only got 4 kills total after those matches.

I've since gone back to the Splitfish and never looked back. Move was a nice idea for MAG but I think Zipper should have looked at the Conduit's extensive settings for motion control as a template as to what should have been in MAG. Anyone looking for superior accuracy in MAG, just invest in a Splitfish or a similar device. it works far better than Move.

Native mouse and keyboard support would have been nice though...

@Sylvrfonic
Did anyone else catch that there is no recoil or jumpy pointer behavior when you use a Move controller? The difference is so large you almost HAVE to buy a move to remain competitive!

Actually I thought that the recoil was a fundamental factor of gameplay and gun balancing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFk0D5AxoHE&feature=player_embedded#!#t=1m07s

The dual shock drifts, the move does not.

@Sylvrfonic
Did anyone else catch that there is no recoil or jumpy pointer behavior when you use a Move controller? The difference is so large you almost HAVE to buy a move to remain competitive!

Actually I thought that the recoil was a fundamental factor of gameplay and gun balancing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFk0D5AxoHE&feature=player_embedded#t=1m07s

The dual shock drifts, the move does not.

@Lenticular
Below video has proper time jump. Oops!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFk0D5AxoHE&feature=player_embedded#t=1m07s

@Sylvrfonic Thanks for posting this. I have over 410 hours in to MAG, I'm in the top 1% in almost all the categories in the stats page. I tried it out with the Move in the training and absolutely hated it. The tweeks that this guy does on the controls have peeked my interest to give it another chance.

My biggest problem was the floating reticule and the turning sensitivity. I got the screen all turned around just trying to lob grenades in the training exercise.

@reddsimpson

Any sort of gun implementation would be too complex because you don't just need the trigger, like I've seen on the CTA gun. You need to press the other buttons as well, unless you don't want to reload, go crouch or prone, or jump, or interaction with objectives. Holding the bottom of the gun and then having to switch your hand around to the top to hit a small button isn't what most gamers would say is a smooth and quick way to play their FPS. They need to be able to press that button within a fraction of a second to avoid, activate, or whatever.

@InkSix Easy, since you use two hands to hold a rifle, one hand for the trigger and the second hand for buttons on the barrel.

@InkSix the point behind it is to make it more like reality and in reality you hold a rifle with 2 hands.

@reddsimpson

So, if you are going to use the CTA rifle, you would have both hands at the end of the rifle; one on the bottom and one on top. Yeah, that's more realistic. And then since you don't have the hand back on the movement controller you can't walk around.

@devilish102785

But in reality you can crouch and interact with things with pressing buttons, you can just do them. You can't do that with a piece of plastic separating buttons from easy to reach places.

@InkSix

But in reality you can crouch and interact with things without*** pressing buttons, you can just do them.

@zabelzero You mean...no other shooter on PS3 right? Wii has been using the motion control scheme for FPS games since Wii debuted. The first game was CoD3 which looked like trash compared to PS3 and 360 but had the best controls. Somehow, I don't know how or why, but Move with MAG doesn't control as well as CoD3, Metal of Honor Heroes 2 or CoD 4/CoD W@W on Wii.

Even the Conduit controls better in the campaign mode than MAG w Move. (multiplay sucks because of framerate issues)

Recoil is expressed in the game as grouping or how close to the center of the reticle each bullet lands. That is included with move. What you noticing is that there is no barrel wander with move. I think this is to account for having to keep a steady hand under fire with move.