Consider it the Halo: Reach bump. Previously, the Xbox 360 enjoyed three months of strong sales thanks to a hardware refresh, but
So help us settle a bet: how many of you picked up the special edition Reach console?
Greenberg: Xbox 360 was top-selling console for fourth month in a row
by David Hinkle 
on Oct 14th 2010 6:10PM
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Consider it the Halo: Reach bump. Previously, the Xbox 360 enjoyed three months of strong sales thanks to a hardware refresh, but
So help us settle a bet: how many of you picked up the special edition Reach console?
Reader Comments (70)
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:13PM Mr Khan said
Microsoft's timed it out well. Slim segues to Reach segues to Kinect.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:32PM sonicspike41 said
@ILT2
So PC devs have never had to delay a game? They've never thought "shit, there's just too many good PC games coming out this time of the year, let's either release it sooner or delay it"?
What about games like Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet, every Mario game, every Zelda game, almost every Samus game, and more. Are those all examples of consoles gamers losing?
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So PC devs have never had to delay a game? They've never thought "shit, there's just too many good PC games coming out this time of the year, let's either release it sooner or delay it"?
What about games like Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet, every Mario game, every Zelda game, almost every Samus game, and more. Are those all examples of consoles gamers losing?
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 8:01PM helluvagood said
@ILT2 no one's making you buy 5 things at once lol
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:11AM mtofu said
@ILT2 kind of doesn't make sense to me. who wants to have to choose between 5 different games? i'd much rather a steady stream of good games so i don't have to choose between 5 games.
and if you're able to spend enough to buy a new console then you're able to buy 5 different games.
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and if you're able to spend enough to buy a new console then you're able to buy 5 different games.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:16PM SisypheanLife said
Well, if Microsoft says it, it must be so!
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 7:10PM Puertoricarious said
@SisypheanLife
ok, we get it, you don't like microsoft. but you also clearly don't understand a damn thing about public relations. company spokesman can't just go out and make false statements, if they're saying this it's because they have some numbers to back it up. sure, sometimes they specialize in half truths, but companies like microsoft aren't going to outright lie. they have an image to uphold (however shaky that may be at times) and shareholders to appease.
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ok, we get it, you don't like microsoft. but you also clearly don't understand a damn thing about public relations. company spokesman can't just go out and make false statements, if they're saying this it's because they have some numbers to back it up. sure, sometimes they specialize in half truths, but companies like microsoft aren't going to outright lie. they have an image to uphold (however shaky that may be at times) and shareholders to appease.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 11:39PM A Sandwich said
@Puertoricarious
Also, regardless what they think of their reputation, if they even seriously entertained the idea of willfully misleading the public with false statements the FCC would sodomize the people responsible with the very teleprompter they used to spread such lies.
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Also, regardless what they think of their reputation, if they even seriously entertained the idea of willfully misleading the public with false statements the FCC would sodomize the people responsible with the very teleprompter they used to spread such lies.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 1:52AM sigma8 said
@Puertoricarious
Why can't he make false statements? False statements only get you in trouble if someone can prove you wrong. Otherwise, they're great. NPD is no longer publishing hardware sales, and they probably don't permit public disclosure of them by anyone else, otherwise someone could just forward them on to the public. You wouldn't be able to use the NPD figures in a public counter-argument. Thus, the best anyone could do in response to a potential Greenberg lie would be "Nuh uh!"
I'm not saying Greenberg is wrong, though. I'm just saying that without unbiased, public reporting, this "figure" is now stupid and meaningless and I'll trust self-reporting from Sony and MS as much as I'll trust Glenn Beck that buying gold coins with limited edition donkeys on them is a smart way to invest my savings.
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Why can't he make false statements? False statements only get you in trouble if someone can prove you wrong. Otherwise, they're great. NPD is no longer publishing hardware sales, and they probably don't permit public disclosure of them by anyone else, otherwise someone could just forward them on to the public. You wouldn't be able to use the NPD figures in a public counter-argument. Thus, the best anyone could do in response to a potential Greenberg lie would be "Nuh uh!"
I'm not saying Greenberg is wrong, though. I'm just saying that without unbiased, public reporting, this "figure" is now stupid and meaningless and I'll trust self-reporting from Sony and MS as much as I'll trust Glenn Beck that buying gold coins with limited edition donkeys on them is a smart way to invest my savings.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 3:16AM sanadawarrior said
@sigma8
Except that you are making the assumption that just because NPD no longer publishes these numbers for free, that they aren't being distributed for their paying customers. Lots of people are still getting the NPD numbers and can fact check anything these companies say, including their competitors.
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Except that you are making the assumption that just because NPD no longer publishes these numbers for free, that they aren't being distributed for their paying customers. Lots of people are still getting the NPD numbers and can fact check anything these companies say, including their competitors.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 4:51AM sigma8 said
@sanadawarrior
I have no doubt the numbers are making the rounds, but a public relations person deals with the public, and the public isn't getting the numbers. Certainly, if the real numbers were legitimately (i.e. not rumors or hearsay) distributed widely enough then fabrication would be too risky, but as it stands...who would know? Sony, I'm sure, knows whether it's a lie or the truth. But would it really be worth starting a shouting match over? That's not going to get them the kind of PR they want. Plenty of other companies get the report too, but if you're not MS and you're not Sony, why would you give a crap about blowing the whistle? Maybe Larry Elison would do it.
Again, I have no reason to doubt Greenberg, I'm just saying it's silly to bandy about completely unverifiable claims. We're stuck with 1st party information? Because that's not biased..
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I have no doubt the numbers are making the rounds, but a public relations person deals with the public, and the public isn't getting the numbers. Certainly, if the real numbers were legitimately (i.e. not rumors or hearsay) distributed widely enough then fabrication would be too risky, but as it stands...who would know? Sony, I'm sure, knows whether it's a lie or the truth. But would it really be worth starting a shouting match over? That's not going to get them the kind of PR they want. Plenty of other companies get the report too, but if you're not MS and you're not Sony, why would you give a crap about blowing the whistle? Maybe Larry Elison would do it.
Again, I have no reason to doubt Greenberg, I'm just saying it's silly to bandy about completely unverifiable claims. We're stuck with 1st party information? Because that's not biased..
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 11:24AM SisypheanLife said
@sigma8
That was my point. We completely lack information, except what a PR guy is telling us. And yet the fanboys shout me down for being reluctant to believe what a talking head feeds me.
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That was my point. We completely lack information, except what a PR guy is telling us. And yet the fanboys shout me down for being reluctant to believe what a talking head feeds me.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 3:00PM Vcize said
@sigma8
You think that if Sony knew MS was lying about sales numbers and could prove it that they wouldn't do anything about it? The same company that launched a yaybuttons website to make fun of controllerless solutions? The same company that said real men don't fight with their wrists (mocking the Wii)?
Of course Sony would say something if they had proof that MS was lying about sales numbers. And MS would do the same to Sony if they had that information.
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You think that if Sony knew MS was lying about sales numbers and could prove it that they wouldn't do anything about it? The same company that launched a yaybuttons website to make fun of controllerless solutions? The same company that said real men don't fight with their wrists (mocking the Wii)?
Of course Sony would say something if they had proof that MS was lying about sales numbers. And MS would do the same to Sony if they had that information.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:17PM SovereignSky said
Didn't get the Reach console... but I do have a nice statue to compensate (also, my wallet hates me).
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:17PM Mayor West said
So help us settle a bet: how many of you picked up the special edition Reach console?
Not me.
Not me.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:35PM sonicspike41 said
@Mayor West
I considered getting it for a friend, but his brother and I decided to split the cost of a regular 360 for him (since HDMI out broke). Sadly it's been a few months since then and money is tight so we've both put the plan on hold.
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I considered getting it for a friend, but his brother and I decided to split the cost of a regular 360 for him (since HDMI out broke). Sadly it's been a few months since then and money is tight so we've both put the plan on hold.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:22PM Mayor West said
@Mayor West
I really do like the silver color, but it wouldn't match everything else in my entertainment center. I think the black slim would look more at home with everything else.
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I really do like the silver color, but it wouldn't match everything else in my entertainment center. I think the black slim would look more at home with everything else.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 1:21PM xepherys said
@Mayor West
I did. To replace my SE MW2 360 (which is going to another room). The MW2 one was to replace my (now repaired) original Elite. The Elite was purchased to get a HDD larger than 20GB. Other than the old Pro, they all still work. Apparently I'm a sucker...
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I did. To replace my SE MW2 360 (which is going to another room). The MW2 one was to replace my (now repaired) original Elite. The Elite was purchased to get a HDD larger than 20GB. Other than the old Pro, they all still work. Apparently I'm a sucker...
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:18PM bxgt said
Dude if that was really the power button on the xbox i would sell my slim right now to buy this.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:18PM TRACE said
Not me, I've had the same console for years ;)
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:53PM Prboi said
@R V
I couldn't stay with that one long. I've had it since launch & it was okay until recently I couldn't even download demos for certain games because of space. I bought my slim as soon as I could & traded in my phat one. Plus it kept overheating on me at random times. Only spent 180 on mine thanks to the trade in at gamestop.
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I couldn't stay with that one long. I've had it since launch & it was okay until recently I couldn't even download demos for certain games because of space. I bought my slim as soon as I could & traded in my phat one. Plus it kept overheating on me at random times. Only spent 180 on mine thanks to the trade in at gamestop.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 11:47AM NarcoSleepy said
@TRACE
Same here, I have 3 Xboxes and none of them have gone tits up on me yet. Thinking I should start investing in the lottery.
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Same here, I have 3 Xboxes and none of them have gone tits up on me yet. Thinking I should start investing in the lottery.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:43PM SPARTAN VI said
@R V
Me too, I even have the Zero Hour faceplate. Bewya! It did RROD twice so far though.. Ended up getting an Elite (RROD'ed once) and passed the Zero Hour box to my sister.
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Me too, I even have the Zero Hour faceplate. Bewya! It did RROD twice so far though.. Ended up getting an Elite (RROD'ed once) and passed the Zero Hour box to my sister.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:20PM BoBsS said
This trend will continue for awhile.
Next month is Black Ops, and every year CoD pushes out a ton of 360s, even if there aren't any 360/CoD special editions, it still manages to push out 360s.
Then there's also Kinect but I don't know if that will push consoles. The 360 will be in the "green" or ARROW UP (lol) position until January.
Next month is Black Ops, and every year CoD pushes out a ton of 360s, even if there aren't any 360/CoD special editions, it still manages to push out 360s.
Then there's also Kinect but I don't know if that will push consoles. The 360 will be in the "green" or ARROW UP (lol) position until January.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:24PM Prboi said
Not surprised by this. Everybody rushed out to buy the new console when it released. Even the people who passed on it, most likely got the Reach edition & now people who still haven't been convinced can get the 2gb console or the bundle with Kinect. MS really planned to own this year in hardware sales.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:28PM Ballistic H said
I know a lot who bought the 4GB Xbox 360 S only later to find out they couldn't play online co-op with 4GB memory.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:50PM sonicspike41 said
@Ballistic H
Yeah, they lost at least a few sales from that. A friend was looking to buy the cheaper Xbox but when he heard parts of Reach would be unplayable due to storage issues, he decided to just wait.
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Yeah, they lost at least a few sales from that. A friend was looking to buy the cheaper Xbox but when he heard parts of Reach would be unplayable due to storage issues, he decided to just wait.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 11:38AM SpartacusMagnus said
@sonicspike41
I picked up the 4GB slim (sold my old 20GB Xbox to a friend) and slapped a used 60GB HDD in it off ebay. You can pick up 20GB ones for $15, or you can stick a USB drive in it (up to 16GB)- so I think the $200 slim is still a great deal as long as you're willing to spend a couple bucks extra for more storage.
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I picked up the 4GB slim (sold my old 20GB Xbox to a friend) and slapped a used 60GB HDD in it off ebay. You can pick up 20GB ones for $15, or you can stick a USB drive in it (up to 16GB)- so I think the $200 slim is still a great deal as long as you're willing to spend a couple bucks extra for more storage.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:35PM Korova Pamplona said
I totally didnt. What's the bet and who won?
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:36PM Tapejara said
Oh come one Joystiq I sent in this tip; I could at least get some recognintion ;).
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:37PM Ezio Auditore da Firenze said
@Tapejara
I'm going to assume that most of these guys already follow Greenberg, and saw his tweet at the same time you did. =P
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I'm going to assume that most of these guys already follow Greenberg, and saw his tweet at the same time you did. =P
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:36PM Ezio Auditore da Firenze said
Hey, thanks for the heads up, Mr. Greenberg.
Get back to me, though, when you sell more total units than the Wii, worldwide. Or, even in the Americas.
/high-five
Get back to me, though, when you sell more total units than the Wii, worldwide. Or, even in the Americas.
/high-five
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 2:35PM Prboi said
@Anticrawl
No the wii is the cheapest. It's priced at 150 bucks. The only reason they have it at 200 is because of the wii sports resort & wii motion plus bundled in with the newer versions. They still sell the regular with just wii sports & that's the cheapest console.
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No the wii is the cheapest. It's priced at 150 bucks. The only reason they have it at 200 is because of the wii sports resort & wii motion plus bundled in with the newer versions. They still sell the regular with just wii sports & that's the cheapest console.
Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:45PM mlg rules said
Where did Wii go? :(
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