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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:29AM copa said

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I guess I'm not hardcore enough. Ten bucks for three maps, which won't usually pop up in general matchmaking since most people don't have them, just feels like too much to me.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:56AM BlackEyedMonkey said

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@copa

I agree with you on the not buying as I'm just not to big on multiplayer, but to think no one will have them is silly. Those map packs are going to be huge.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 10:12AM bioadam said

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@copa Agree. I'd rather put that $10 toward a new game. Besides, if history is our teacher then we know this map pack will eventually be free. Most of the map packs were eventually free for Halo 3, and then all bundled together with Halo: ODST. These map packs are for spendy early adopters.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 10:54AM iceKXG said

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@bioadam
At $10 I feel like there should be at least 4 maps, not just 3.

There are sooo many good XBLA games can buy for that price. Or spend it on a lot of good indie games.

Of course, $10 is the equivalent of buying fast food for lunch two days in a row. Guess I'd get more out of my money from buying the map packs than packing on the weight.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 11:15AM DWells55 said

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@copa
Especially since it looks like this is cut retail content. Here's a screenshot from August showing Tempest: http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14276699/halo-reach/images/halo-reach-20100820095447803.html?page=mediaFull
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 12:43PM 343 Guilty Fart said

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@bioadam

The only H3 map pack to ever become free was the Heroic pack, the others, while reduced in price, will still cost you.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 10:57PM MDizzy said

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@copa from my recollection, many of the Halo 3 playlists required the map packs as they were released. I'm sure they'll do the same with this. Unfortunately, Halo:Reach multi player has gripped me much more than any of the previous releases. I didn't pick up any of the Halo 3 Map Packs until they were free and/or when I bought ODST. I'm definitely buying Noble Pack day of release.

BTW Bungie we need Lockout/Blackout to make a reappearance!
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:34AM WonderCaliban said

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3 maps for $10. That's a bit steep!!

But the achievements. MUST HAVE ACHIEVEMENTS!!!
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 10:03AM FlawedLogicXIII said

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@WonderCaliban

All of the previous DLC for Halo 2 and Halo 3 have been priced at $10 for 3 maps, with the occasional single free map that was sponsored by another company.

A year goes by and people forget these things so easily....
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 11:43AM ShadowAsura said

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@FlawedLogicXIII

We didn't forget! Just because they've always charged this amount doesn't mean it's a good value. If you compare it to the $60 you paid for the entire game it's a joke. But by all means, if you wanna keep drinking the coolaid go right ahead.

$10 for 5 new maps or $5 for 3 new maps would be much more reasonable.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 11:56AM WonderCaliban said

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@FlawedLogicXIII

I never bought those map packs as they were too expensive for what they were then, just as they are now. I only played them after buying ODST, whilst they were good maps I'm glad I didn't buy them at the time.

Also it seems to make less sense to do so in Reach as there are already a good supply of maps on the disc.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:35AM Jerk Face said

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Ten bucks for three maps, eh? Hmm. Ah, screw it - I'm in. Better than the $15 pounding MW2 offered us.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:43AM GTThaAceman said

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@Jerk Face EXACTLY! If you like the game and cannot afford $10 why are you even in gaming because it is an expensive type of entertainment.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:48AM Yeah TB said

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@Jerk Face
$15 / 5 MW2 maps = $3 per map
$10 / 3 Halo maps = $3.33 per map
Who's pounding what now?
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:52AM Jerk Face said

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@Yeah TB

Totally fair point - I just feel like since two of the five were recycled (albeit fairly good) old maps, the value there just wasn't quite up to snuff for $15.

Reach is definitely in need of a few new maps, so regardless I'm excited.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:56AM Ryguy226 said

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@Jerk Face Even better, none of the maps they are offering are remakes! Yay for original maps that weren't in previous games!
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 10:55AM Epoque said

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@Yeah TB Forge-ability and new achievements more than make up the difference.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 11:27AM InkSix said

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@Ryguy226

I don't understand why people seem to hate remakes of old maps. Every time I play a sequel to any game in multiplayer I wish I could play this new updated game on a previous map that I loved. And no, I'm not going to pop in the old game to play that map, because the new game is out and it better than the old one.

That's usually how it goes for me.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 11:32AM Epoque said

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@InkSix I don't think people hate remakes of old maps, I just think they hate paying for them (or better, being forced to pay for them to also get new maps).
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 11:34AM Jerk Face said

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@InkSix

Yeah, like Epoque said - I'm totally into remakes of old maps, but shelling out the same amount as I would for a new map seems a little rough, is all.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:06PM maveric101 said

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@InkSix

same. i would LOVE more Halo 2 maps.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:35AM Doctor Who said

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They do pop up quiet a bit. In Halo 3, they always came up, especially sandbox. Only the last 3 didn't as much becausethey weren't very good. I'm excited. Hopefully, the archeaology one will be a good forging map.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:35AM PlatinumSkeet said

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That first picture reminds me of the towers from Halo C:E when you first land on the planet. Man I wish there was an HD remake...

It seems kinda soon for a map pack I think this could've/should've been included in the game...
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:41AM Creed said

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Gave up on Halo Reach after 3 week I suck at this one compared to 2 and 3. also $10 for 3 maps is a bit much but if this was Call to Duty it be $20 so I gess thats a good price
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:41AM Yeah TB said

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As long as they don't lock out any playlists like Halo 3, I'll probably wait until the eventual price drops / sales.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:41AM GTThaAceman said

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Day one purchase 4 me! oh and copa if you played any other Halo's(2 and 3) they implement them in the multiplayer matchmaking and after awhile they will be required for some playlist.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:45AM anoffday said

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Hopefully it's not like Halo 3's first map pack. I bought them. Couldn't play in ranked matches with then. And then 3 months later they were free.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 6:12PM maveric101 said

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@anoffday

even though i'll probably get it, i'm hoping that they'll just match up people who have the maps within a certain playlist, rather than blocking people from whole playlists.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:47AM GTThaAceman said

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for all the people complaining they did the same exact thing for Halo 3 and Halo 2 so if you bought those maps why are you people complaining 3 maps for $10 is better than $15 for a map pack(MW2)
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 11:34AM ShadowAsura said

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@GTThaAceman

I'll clarify: $10 for the Halo map pack is overpriced. $15 for the COD map pack was rediculously overpriced.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:48AM Meximanly said

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I was under the impression that all the other map packs for the Halo games were also 3 maps for $10 (i could be wrong). So why are people complaining?
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 11:30AM ShadowAsura said

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@Meximanly

Because that still doesn't make it right. If someone kicked you in the nuts on five different occasions wouldn't you still be pissed off and complain each time, or would you just get used to it and start thanking them?

For $10 you should get at least 5 new maps.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 11:51PM MDizzy said

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@ShadowAsura there's this concept in economics called supply and demand. If Microsoft released a Map Pack for 10 and few people bought it, then they would lower the price until they made enough sales to justify development. Obviously they are getting the response they want at $10.

The thing is that the Halo games have been so masterfully done that a)People have no problem shelling out 150 something for Legendary Editions and b)People want to supplement the experience with new content.

The price point is a no brainer...I've spent over 24 hours so far in Reach multiplayer (I know I'm slacking but I have a job, wife, and kids). If the map pack can extend the freshness of the experience for me, it's worth it.

If I didn't play Reach multiplayer that much, I would pass on it.

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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:49AM Tranced said

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Im sorry but these maps are coming wayyy to late. The online maps available right now are a jopke 90% of the time i feel like im back in sp.... ITS BOOORING.. THE MAPS are boring !!!1 uninspired. We need more than 3 maps that are a month and a half away.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:54AM PastaGabe said

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@Tranced *facepalm*
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 10:00AM Yeah TB said

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@Tranced
They are too late in a game that will have a lifespan of at least 2 years?
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 12:10PM MisterSquared said

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@Tranced
I bet you wanted them to release DLC before the game even was released to retail!
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:49AM Vcize said

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Hopefully some of these will be 8-player maps that have vehicles. Halo 3 came with three maps that had ghost spawns in 4v4 gametypes. Now that Hemorrhage has been (thankfully) mostly rotated out, I don't believe Reach has any.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 11:30AM TheDarkWayne said

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@Vcize I havent played matchmaking since around 2 weeks after the game came out, what do you mean it's been rotated out? People just always vote against it or it doesnt even come up as a choice?
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 1:15PM Vcize said

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@TheDarkWayne

They removed it from a couple of the playlists in the last update.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 4:49PM TheDarkWayne said

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@Vcize oh wow, that blows. I love Blood Gulch. Dang, there isn't even a Blood Gulch facsimile like Valhalla to replace it either. It's still in BTB right?
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 4:56PM Vcize said

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@TheDarkWayne

Yeah it's still in BTB. It's just the 4v4 playlists they removed it from.

A variant like Valhalla would have been fine in the 4v4 playlists, with the man-cannons and the shorter middle area. Hemorrhage was just way too big and slow for 4v4.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:54AM crushthemall said

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Bungie should have renamed their map design contest. It looks too much like "FORGETacular" than "FORGEtacular".

I'm just sayin'.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 9:56AM foomojive said

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I hope they integrate them into matchmaking the same way as the modern warfare 1 variety map pack. In that one the new maps were mixed into the appropriate playlists naturally. There was none of this Bioshock 2 style where it matchmade first and *then* looked to see who had the maps. It also didn't have DLC only playlists or required the new maps for the most basic ranked playlists like Halo 3. It just mixed them in like you would expect. Hopefully Bungie can catch up to where Infinity Ward was years ago.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 10:00AM EDZiLLUH said

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why are people complaining & comparing to MW2. MW2 was 5 maps for $15 which is $3 each. Halo Reach is 3 maps $10 which is $3.33 each. not much of a big difference. if your a fan of the game you'll buy it.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 10:09AM PastaGabe said

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@EDZiLLUH Yeah, no one really complained in Halo 3 until those MW2 map packs came out. People need to stop comparing EVERYTHING to MW2! Thats not the only game in the world, its a good game but not the best. Not that any complaining will do anything, either way you gotta admit Bungie is making some freakin beautiful maps.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 10:05AM A Sandwich said

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$10 for something that I'll get hundreds of hours of enjoyment from? Sold.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 10:11AM eimajtl said

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Definitely not going for this. They could have done a hell of a lot better with the map pack.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 10:33AM This Little Man Says His Name Is said

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@eimajtl

Do you have the map pack?

If the answer to this is no, which it is, then there is no way you can make a claim about how good a job they have done with it.
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Posted: Oct 14th 2010 11:09AM eimajtl said

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@This Little Man Says His Name Is The pictures do just fine in showing us what they made. It's not like I'm judging gameplay by a few pictures here.

They're each a bunch of what we already see in the game. The first one with the "two symmetrical bases" is just laughable. How many maps are in that area? How many maps are there with "symmetrical bases"? The second is a bit different than the others, I wouldn't mind playing on that one. The third pretty much looks like one of the firefight levels - which makes it silly that you have to pay for it.
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