Kinect algorithm updated by Microsoft to better detect seated players
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Worried that Kinect won't work when you're not standing directly in front of it, despite the assurances given by developers? Worry not -- Eurogamer has heard that Microsoft has changed the configuration on the body recognition system, switching a node on the body model from the base of the spine to the back of the neck, allowing for players who put their knees above the waist while playing to be more easily recognized. Previously, individual developers could still edit their own recognition systems in (and the previous version of the system worked just fine for most types of sitting), but this is a change to the base recognition system that Microsoft is building. So it can see you even better.
In fact, the way we understand it, a skilled developer could even recognize you in that weird position you used to sit in as a kid, where you put your back on the sofa seat, and hung your head upside down to stare out at the TV during Saturday morning cartoons. No idea what they'd use that pose for, but they could do it.
In fact, the way we understand it, a skilled developer could even recognize you in that weird position you used to sit in as a kid, where you put your back on the sofa seat, and hung your head upside down to stare out at the TV during Saturday morning cartoons. No idea what they'd use that pose for, but they could do it.
Reader Comments (27)
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:48PM Hoops said
We are this much closer to my dream of playing kinect on the toilet.
Posted: Oct 16th 2010 4:12PM TangoEchoXray said
@Shadsy How do they down-rank a Jim Gaffigan reference?
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:49PM Faenix said
..still aint getting it. $150 and no good games(for me ) is too much for my blood.
Posted: Oct 16th 2010 2:26AM ernieball12306 said
@Faenix good thing im getting this for free.. really kinectimalz who the he'll wants to play that
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Posted: Oct 16th 2010 9:33AM xXHexagonXx said
@BlackedOut and yet it is cheaper than Move unless you have trouble adding.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2010 11:52AM TheInternet said
@BlackedOut Absolutely. Trying to recover production costs? This is like being slapped in the face! I am outraged and somewhat hungry.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2010 7:53PM Faenix said
@xXHexagonXx
Noones talking about move. But, fine. fine.
$209 = two moves, the eye, a decent move game, charger, and the nav con. With many current games getting move functionality, plus a few decent games next year coming for it (Sorcery and The Fight says hi)
Not to mention the charger and the navcon are OPTIONAL, so its $150 and.. guess what? YOU GET A GAME, THATS GOOD.
$150 = ..something to use for movies and menus That'll always just sit there, cause theres not one single decent game coming for it except Dance Central. But that is not my kind of game.
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Noones talking about move. But, fine. fine.
$209 = two moves, the eye, a decent move game, charger, and the nav con. With many current games getting move functionality, plus a few decent games next year coming for it (Sorcery and The Fight says hi)
Not to mention the charger and the navcon are OPTIONAL, so its $150 and.. guess what? YOU GET A GAME, THATS GOOD.
$150 = ..something to use for movies and menus That'll always just sit there, cause theres not one single decent game coming for it except Dance Central. But that is not my kind of game.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:52PM Picasotriggerfish said
A very useful update if a company wanted to make an adult oriented video game, they could even fit in the "Saturday morning cartoons position" of being upside down on the couch
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:54PM BigDaddyBooth said
This is good news; I just found out I'm getting a Kinect for Christmas! There's not really any games that I am interested in yet, but I think my wife and kid will love it. Plus, I hope that it gets plenty of buyers, because I would love to see Kinect integrated into my FPS's smartly.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 6:14PM Crayola Q Pants ESQ said
That woman in the middle looks more like she's listening to Limp Bizkit - Rollin' than playing Kinect
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 6:43PM Petebot330 said
@Crayola Q Pants ESQ I'd roll her limp bizkit. /so ashamed
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 6:45PM greggermyster said
@sadistic freek Sir, you are a liar!
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 6:47PM Bubbameister33 said
@sadistic freek
Send that into the tips section.
Send that into the tips section.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 6:59PM sadistic freek said
@greggermyster
Sorry, saw it on passwird and thought it would be good to share. Should've known it was too good to be true.
Sorry, saw it on passwird and thought it would be good to share. Should've known it was too good to be true.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:11PM Lerkero said
The fact that they didn't already have this included is telling. Did they not think some people might want to sit way ahead of time?
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:15PM RageOverdose said
@Lerkero
Do you think maybe they didn't know exactly how to implement it at the time of release and didn't expect people would want to sit playing something that uses the body much almost immediately after release?
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Do you think maybe they didn't know exactly how to implement it at the time of release and didn't expect people would want to sit playing something that uses the body much almost immediately after release?
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 8:22PM anonim1979 said
@Lerkero
You know alpha, beta, etc. Were you born fully potty trained, hmm?
Anyway, at E3 they had it implemented already - only now it is better even with wacky poses...
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You know alpha, beta, etc. Were you born fully potty trained, hmm?
Anyway, at E3 they had it implemented already - only now it is better even with wacky poses...
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 8:33PM Lerkero said
@Lerkero
Seems like the point has been missed. Microsoft has been demoing Kinect for well over a year and a half. yet...
"Previously, individual developers could still edit their own recognition systems in (and the previous version of the system worked just fine for most types of sitting), but this is a change to the base recognition system that Microsoft is building. So it can see you even better."
Microsoft changed the BASE recognition system. It wasn't there already. I am saying that they should have thought about including that from the beginning. They danced around the issue of being able to sit and play Kinect for the longest time and now suddenly a few weeks before Kinect is released they have this update.
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Seems like the point has been missed. Microsoft has been demoing Kinect for well over a year and a half. yet...
"Previously, individual developers could still edit their own recognition systems in (and the previous version of the system worked just fine for most types of sitting), but this is a change to the base recognition system that Microsoft is building. So it can see you even better."
Microsoft changed the BASE recognition system. It wasn't there already. I am saying that they should have thought about including that from the beginning. They danced around the issue of being able to sit and play Kinect for the longest time and now suddenly a few weeks before Kinect is released they have this update.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 10:17PM Faenix said
@sadistic freek
That worked for me a few hours ago. It seems to be limited time.. but it DID work.
That worked for me a few hours ago. It seems to be limited time.. but it DID work.
Posted: Oct 16th 2010 12:33AM sadistic freek said
@Faenix
Yeah, evidentally it worked for me too. I was in the process of downloading it when I was reading that it was just episode 1. But it was the full game, and that makes me happy.
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Yeah, evidentally it worked for me too. I was in the process of downloading it when I was reading that it was just episode 1. But it was the full game, and that makes me happy.
Posted: Oct 15th 2010 11:08PM BustedChain said
"No idea what they'd use that pose for, but they could do it."
Simple: If I were in charge of a Kinect game, that achievement would be called "Kickin' it old school!" or "Kickin' it REALLY old school!".
Simple: If I were in charge of a Kinect game, that achievement would be called "Kickin' it old school!" or "Kickin' it REALLY old school!".
Posted: Oct 16th 2010 11:24AM WickedCobra03 said
So it actually still doesn't work for sitters or black people. I thought they said that this was just a rumor / myth like 6 months ago... :|
Posted: Oct 16th 2010 11:53AM GamingColt said
@WickedCobra03
I've tried Kinect. Joy ride DEFINITELY works sitting down.
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I've tried Kinect. Joy ride DEFINITELY works sitting down.
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