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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:02PM antv said

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HAAHAHAHAH,
The poor little guy was only expressing his happiness as a fellow miner.

Posted: Oct 16th 2010 7:13PM Lawfer said

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@antv I think it wasn't a bad thing to do, congratulate the now free workers is normal, but Namco Bandai of all the people in the world... It can be taken as propaganda by the affected people of Chile. I like the Mr Driller postal though.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:02PM vmenge said

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Some people, really...
What's wrong with having a miner in a welcome card to miners?

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:11PM Assmar said

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@vmenge

Some people, huh? You obviously know nothing about the conditions in which miners work all over the world, please and kindly get an effing clue.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:18PM Zacxx201 said

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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:25PM Assmar said

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@vmenge

How is suburbia this time of year? I bet it's nice.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:29PM BananaBoat said

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@Assmar - Oh it's like paradise this time of year. Trust me. Dusk jogs at sixty five degrees are heaven, and the streets are paved with gold and the blood, sweat, and tears of the immigrants that can't afford to live here.


/sarcasm
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:33PM vmenge said

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@Assmar,
and that makes a miner character offensive how exactly...?
Because he looks happy and being a miner he should show respect for poor work conditions? Or whatever reason, I really don't see how it's offensive.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:43PM Assmar said

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@vmenge

I don't know how it was offensive as I wasn't offended by the image. You'd have to ask those people who took offense why they were offended. Though, please try that before you say "I don't know why these people were offended." Maybe they have a fine reason, you would never know, you never bothered to find out before you made up your mind.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:47PM Assmar said

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@Monkey D Luffy

Sorry, I'm stupid. I'm done here.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:52PM vmenge said

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@Assmar,
You know what? No I don't think they have a fine reason. This isn't even something you need to stop and think deeply about how it may affect people. If this was the Medal of Honor Taliban debacle I'd be inclined to agree that yes I can see how people could get offended (even if I don't agree with them), but no, this is a WELCOME BACK card with a happy miner on it. I fail to see how anyone could get upset about the ramifications of such a nice thing. If they ARE offended by it, they probably have some serious issues.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 6:14PM Esposch said

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@Assmar

Shit conditions, yeah, but amazing pay.
They are THE best paid industry in the country, with an average wage of over $100,000.
In Australia, that is, anyway. Not sure about overseas.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 6:54PM fyian said

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@Assmar
Yes, let's pull everything that could possibly offensive to anyone, ever.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:31PM superfrog1993 said

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@Assmar

I hate this world we live in. So what if people get offended? If there was no bad intentions and people get offended then tough shite. There is literally nothing in the world (non-violent) that anyone could say that would make me want to censor them.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 11:21PM heypaul said

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@Monkey D Luffy

"They're miners, lol.
If they wanted a safe job then they should have got an education."


I think you mean "gotten," smart guy.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2010 10:12PM Chronomaster said

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@vmenge This whole thread was started because someone was indignant and haughty towards someone who was unwillingly ignorant and looking for answers.

Think about that.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:05PM Kamizar said

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I don't see a problem here.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:07PM acceptablerisk said

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What's the problem, exactly? Mr. Driller is certainly no stranger to digging accidents.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:19PM MNeko said

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@acceptablerisk Responding to the rescue of miners trapped underground for three months by promoting a video game where a kid frequently gets squished by cave-ins is a phenomenally dumb idea. It's crass and insensitive.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 9:08PM MNeko said

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@MNeko Oh yeah, I forgot... daring to disagree with the majority on Joystiq is a quick ticket to downvotes-ville, regardless of whether or not you're respectful in the process.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 9:48PM Rocketboy said

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@MNeko Yes.. it is shockingly odd that when people think that you are being an idiot, that we will respectfully click the [-] button. What, you'd rather have the circle-jerk feel good comment section that is now Engadget?
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:11PM wardob said

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I don't see why they needed to appologize.

Some people get offended to easily.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:12PM Cleric said

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EVERYTHING rubs 'some' people the wrong way.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:17PM Assmar said

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The problem here is media the world over focusing on the celebration of removing the miners after such an ordeal which is really remarkable, but what they ignore is why those miners were trapped in the first place, and the fact that 33 miners don't usually make it out of a mining accident alive.

But I'm obviously a dirty communist who believes that the trillions upon trillions of dollars worth of ore extracted in Chile or Peru or Bolivia never benefited the people who live there, only the dictators and despots who control and have traditionally controlled those resources benefit. And the conditions of the people who extract those necessary resources haven't changed with technology; they're still working with headlamp, shoddy ladders, push carts, pick axes and shovels.

/guilt trip

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:27PM sonicspike41 said

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@Assmar

I think you're missing the point. We're not celebrating the conditions they work in, we're celebrating the fact that some fellow humans beings didn't die. Would you rather them have died so that everyone would be up in arms about the working conditions or have them live to see their families again?

I don't know about you, but I'm all for any option where people don't die. If you really hate the working conditions they live in so much, then do something about it. Go start a non profit organization to raise money for them. Instead you're telling people on a video game site they should feel bad for being happy human beings managed to stay alive?
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:33PM Assmar said

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@sonicspike41

I think you're missing the point. Whether I give to charities is none of your business, in the first place.

I'm not telling people to feel bad, I'm telling them to think before they completely disregard the feelings of others, particularly those who may have taken offense to this. Instead what you have is a bunch of privileged gamers commenting on how it's unfathomable how one could take offense. It's very easy to see, if you can get past your own ignorance.

And right now is probably the best time to illustrate just how dangerous and un-puppy-with-a-jet/drill-pack-like mining work is.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:55PM sonicspike41 said

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@Assmar

"/guilt trip"
"I'm not telling people to feel bad"

So you give this long guilt trip but don't want people to feel bad? What's the point of a guilt trip aside from trying to make people feel bad?

Also, I'm not saying you should give to charities. I'm saying if you feel so deeply about the worker's conditions then do something productive to help them. You trying to tell us that mining isn't all fun and games (no sh!t? they don't have cute puppies that do the hard work for them?) is just a waste of your time and ours.

Basically, your pleas are falling on deaf ears when you could be actually trying to make the difference you so desperately seem to want. Let me make it clear though, I'm all for better conditions for people who's work continuously puts their life in danger, but I'm not going around acting holier-than-thou on gaming sites to people who couldn't care less.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:17PM Hexidecimal said

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How is this an issue again?

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:19PM Lerkero said

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Soon the world will be so politically correct that it won't be politically correct to try and be politically correct.

I think that this was a fun gesture for Namco to show that the world was paying attention to this story. Could have used a little stronger context to make sure people didn't take it out of context though.

Posted: Oct 16th 2010 7:29PM Lawfer said

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@Lerkero I think you are right. They could just put text and congratulate the people in the name of all the game industries of Japan. No need to put the game here just because it's a Driller :)
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:25PM (Unverified) said

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The mistake was Namco apologizing. It's not like they used this because there's a new Mr. Driller coming out.

Some people. . .

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:26PM BananaBoat said

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God forbid Namco Bandai offends the enormous Chilean miner video game demographic with their outreach of good will.

I could understand if one of the miners had died, but since they all lived, why would they pull this ad? If Disney had put out a picture of Mickey Mouse in a mining outfit, with the same words and graphics, no one would have batted an eye.

Posted: Oct 16th 2010 7:31PM Lawfer said

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@BananaBoat Are you sure?
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:39PM spekkio said

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Well I LOL'd

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:45PM Crayola Q Pants ESQ said

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If anyone who complained about this was someone who'd once been tarpped in a mine (minecraft not included) I would be very very surprised. So with that thought in mind, the people who complained about this can eat a dick, because that picture is great

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 6:18PM danaceb said

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If it was any miner, it was prob that one who was too busy praying to his almighty spaghetti monster to ever say thank you to his real saviors, the rescuers. Only one who seemed to have gone mad from his ordeal as all the other miners seemed so happy to get out and be reunited, where as you think he was sad to leave.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:10PM iluvalima said

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I'm Hispanic so I say it's okay.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:21PM pluupy said

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@iluvalima
I'm hispanic too and hell, I'm fine with it.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:53PM Blackbird said

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@iluvalima

Well I'm chilean, and THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT!

Actually, I thought it was nice of Namco. It doesn't say who was offended though, so my guess is that Namco THOUGHT that someone MIGHT be offended. Better safe than sorry I guess?
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Posted: Oct 16th 2010 7:35PM Lawfer said

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@iluvalima I'm not hispanic and I like the postal too, I can think of some reasons why people could be upset about this, but... who cares? They are safe now, that's all matters.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:15PM MNeko said

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This was bad PR. Really bad PR. Really, REALLY bad PR.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:30PM Demaar said

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@MNeko
Because a few people overreacted to it, sure. Not because of anything Namco Bandai did.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 9:15PM MNeko said

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@Demaar It's exactly what Namco did that pissed them off in the first place! It's like using Pac-Man to celebrate the capture of Jeffrey Dahmer... it's crass and in remarkably poor taste. I don't think game companies should be promoting games on the back of an event that was pretty traumatic for the people involved and could have turned out much, much worse. You can downvote me all you like, Joystiq readers, but deep down inside you know I'm right. Trying to cover up what I say isn't going to change that.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2010 3:22PM Neter said

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@MNeko
There is no Mr Driller game comming up so stop using that promotion thing as an argument. Also is not like Mr Driller is one of Namco´s strong franchises.

Also, just because Joystiq is an ochlocracy dosn´t mean you are right for being downvoted.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:27PM Sordid State of Eclairs said

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I'm surprised! I was expecting to see a comment from PedoJokerBear... you know, miner/minor... He's usually so on the ball w/ these things.

This is silly, though. The things some people get offended at. Why be offended? If I had no inclination wtf Mr. Miner was and I saw that after being trapped in a mine I'd be like, whatever.

If I saw that after being trapped in a mine and I knew who it was? Pure Awesome.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:28PM Sordid State of Eclairs said

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@Sordid State of Eclairs

LOL god wtf... Mr. Driller. I just realized right after I posted that.

God damn I need some sleep. Either that or i have to stop typing "miner."
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:27PM Sly C said

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Wow, people get offended by EVERYTHING. This was a nice gesture. Don't really see the problem with a greeting card with a happy miner.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:42PM Walter White said

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Did they replace it with a picture of Dig Dug?

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 9:32PM The Joy of Cooking DeMat said

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Well of course they're offended, the card says "bienvenido", which is SINGULAR. It means Namco was clearly greeting A SINGLE MINER. How could the other 32 miners not be offended!?

Seriously now this was a nice gesture.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 11:28PM ArQuesta said

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If I was a miner who had just recently been released from being imprisoned underground for over two months I really doubt I'd be looking at a greeting card. Seriously though, they all had wives and/or mistresses, they are not caring about some stupid graphic of a video game miner who hasn't been used in years.

If any of them have been anywhere besides the bed, bath and refrigerator it's been the time they've spent on the phone debating movie licensing deals.

I think the issue is who on earth besides those who actually suffered being trapped has the right to complain about Namco-Bandai's fairly innocent attempt at being nice? I think there isn't anyone with the right to whine about it. Stupid self-proclaimed politically correct people with sticks up their asses reading their debate material off of wikipedia would rather argue about details that don't matter during a celebration and ruin it for everyone.

The next time people are saved from certain death and return to their homes the world won't celebrate. Everyone would rather stay silent than face the wrath of people who have absolutely nothing to do with the incident.

Namco-Bandai, I have to say you were tasteful. If you were more daring you'd show a Katamari rolling up the mine with the King interrupting to say "Oh! Is that a present?

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