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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:35PM LokeSTL said

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Now if they'd just have that deal with a 250gb at $350, I'd go ahead and buy it.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 1:10PM matthugh said

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@LokeSTL Agreed!
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 1:47PM AwesomeTown said

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@LokeSTL
I'm in the market for a Slim 250gb, but have been waiting for a deal. That would be perfect.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:37PM 182 said

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I'm waiting for a bundle with the new D padded controller, then I'll finally "jump in"

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:45PM Ezio Auditore da Firenze said

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@182

Oh-ho-ho.

I see what you did there!
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 3:58PM Karmastocracy said

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Comon Ezio, we arn't living in ancient rome... nobody talks like THAT anymore. This is a more cultured way to speak.

I C what U did thar
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:39PM PreGHz said

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Man, I feel sorry for the people who buy this thinking that they'll be saving money, but run into the brick wall of having one game install taking up all of their hard drive space.

I want to be there every time someone considers buying of these so I can swat it out of their hands and give them the larger hard drive version. "It's for the best, trust me. It's not you, it's the crappy 4gb limit."

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Or tell them to get a PS3 instead (lulz?) /troll

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:45PM chex said

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@PreGHz
you do realize you can use usb flash drives as storage too right? most people have those laying around their house. even if they don't, its still cheaper to buy a couple flash drives than spend the extra 100 dollars for the bigger hard drive.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:50PM DustbinK said

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@PreGHz Who says they'll install any games?
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:59PM louiedog said

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@PreGHz I think the 4 GB version is fine for some people. There's an audience out there who just buys a couple of sports games, maybe something like Call of Duty that gets advertised a lot, and something for their young kids. There are people who don't take their consoles online and probably haven't ever browsed the XBLA marketplace. Hell, my former roommate is on my friends list. He has about 15-20 games and his status only updates every 3-4 months because he never connects to Live. He has no interest in multiplayer, I think he just connects to get updates.

What confuses me about this bundle is the year of gold and 4000 ms points. $50 worth of a lot of games and DLC that are out there right now will fill that 4 GB completely. I don't know how much of that 4 GB is usable, but I'd bet you couldn't fit Lara Croft and Comic Jumper on it, and that's only 2400 points. The market for the 4 GB just doesn't seem to need the bundled items.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 1:59PM Vcize said

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@ctg867

You can use two flash drives for up to 32gb. Or you can use an external drive, of which you can probably pick up a ~120gb one for like 20-30 bucks nowadays and it'll use 32gb of it there.

And what games can't you play with a hard drive? All that I'm aware of is co-op online for Reach, and that is supposed to be patched soon. That one minor limitation hardly makes an entire XBox worthless.

I would wager that the vast majority of xbox/ps3 owners never use more than 32gb of space on their consoles. Heck, many people are still rolling along fine with their 20gb units.

So sure, this bundle makes no sense to most of us posting here, but there are plenty of people out there that it does make sense for.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 3:52PM PreGHz said

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@everyone who replied to me.

20gb is fine. Great if they can do that, which they can for barely more than 4gb. Sure, most people might not use more than 20gb. But 4gb, really? They are bundling 50 dollars worth of Live points. Shank already takes up over a gig. 4gb is barely enough space for anything, especially since they are expecting the buyer to use the points to buy games or movies. if that's the case, then they're using it as a gateway drug. Good business idea, but in they are planning on selling you an expansion hard drive, since most people who don't know better will pay more for a licensed product. Microsoft nickle and dimes, why should we be happy about that? Why should we support that?

When I talk about installing games, I don't just mean disc based games. And my flash drives are being used for other things, so I don't want to permanently allocate space on them for my 360.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 8:41PM Vcize said

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@ctg867

Even if the only option to get 32gb cost $50 (it doesn't, but more on that later), then why is that useless or a reason not to buy it for everyone? If someone is only planning on using 10gb of space (and trust me, there are a lot more of those people out there than you think they are) then why would they pay an extra $100 for a bunch of hard drive space they're never going to use anyway.

Heck, even as a hardcore gamer I've barely used 10gb on my PS3. If I could have saved $75 to buy a PS3 with a smaller hard drive and throw a flash drive into it I would have been just as well off, and $75 richer. I'm sure there are plenty of people that want a 360, but don't play it enough to ever have to worry about having more than 30gb of storage.

As for prices, there was a 120gb external WD hard drive for $25 a few days ago, and even at full retail price there are tons for $40 or under. The 360 will take 32gb of that, which again is plenty of space for many people. Not you or I, but plenty of folks.

As for the list of games that require a hard drive, at this point I'm pretty sure you're either remembering it wrong or are just making it up. Google knows nothing about any of those games you mentioned requiring a hard drive (and mw2 CERTAINLY doesn't require one, that's just laughable), and at this point the entire list of games requiring a 360 hard drive is 1. That's Final Fantasy XI, and given that hardly anyone plays that, it's not really a dealbreaker for 99.9% (if not 100%) of people currently in the market for a 360.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 10:21PM PreGHz said

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@ctg867

I think we have a winner!
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:41PM FentonAlpha said

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Do not buy. My 4GB Slim is possibly the worst running Xbox i ever purchased. And I've had to purchase a few.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:45PM Prestidigitator said

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@FentonAlpha whoa in what ways?
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:51PM DustbinK said

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@FentonAlpha Why are you purchasing more than one if it's a badly made product?
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 1:54PM Co said

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@DustbinK

"Why are you purchasing more than one if it's a badly made product?"

I've been asking 360 fanboys that for years.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 2:08PM FentonAlpha said

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@Prestidigitator
It freezes a lot... almost daily. I'm also finding that without a harddrive many games have some issues despite the 4GB internal memory.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 2:09PM FentonAlpha said

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@DustbinK
I've given many away to friends.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:49PM DustbinK said

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@ccc What happens in your brain when you think up of posts like that? The target market for people who are buying a 4gb 360 aren't people who download a lot of DLC or games. Not to mention you can still hook up external storage.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:52PM scratchh said

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So not a deal. HDD or GTFO.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 12:55PM Hawaii Jeff said

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Ugh.

Only 4GB, and this is considered a DEAL?!

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 1:16PM Acosta02 said

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@Hawaii Jeff

It's a step up from the 256 MB model.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 1:00PM SmilinGoat said

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I still have my launch Elite, but im starting to get nervous about the whole RROD thing. i know im one of the lucky few, so i think im going to sell this one before it starts breaking, then pick up a new slim with Kinect (wife wants the dance game/workout game)

its nice to see that MS is going to be supporting the good'ol November bundles this holiday.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 1:07PM louiedog said

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@DustbinK What happens in your brain? Don't be insulting on the internet just because you can be.

You say the target audience for the 4 GB model doesn't download a lot of stuff. I agree. However, the bundle includes 4000 points to download stuff with. Depending on what people buy, for example the two games he listed that come to 1600 points, by the time that 4000 points is spent they may easily run out of space. That's what is stupid about this.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 2:02PM Vcize said

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@ctg867

Honest question here. What games require a hard drive?

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 4:33PM iluvalima said

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I could probably get $100 back if I trade in those controllers, plus, I need a new 360 (stuck drive) and I miss netflix on my 360.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 4:55PM tendoboy1984 said

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So they go from a 20GB hard drive model, then they get rid of the hard drive and add a puny 256MB flash memory chip, then they bump that up to 4BG... Why didn't they just keep the hard drive in the first place?

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 4:57PM tendoboy1984 said

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Sorry, meant to say 4GB, not 4BG

Anyways, why didn' t they just keep the hard drive in the first place?
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 5:57PM Raffi256 said

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@tendoboy1984

Uhh, the $200 SKU never had a hard drive, that's why it costs $200 and not $300.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:02PM Espada said

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@louiedog Not everyone would buy games, MS want you to spend that on others things like video,music, themes, etc. Sitll is a great deal

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 7:47PM Majikthise said

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@Vcize

Halo Reach needs one, but only for multi-player.

There is a patch coming soon to fix this.

Posted: Oct 15th 2010 8:45PM Vcize said

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@ctg867

To be more specific, those (3) games require one to play online co-op only, the rest of the game works fine, and as someone said Reach is being patched for it.

There is only 1 game (FFXI, which no one buying a 360 now is going to play anyway) that actually requires a hard drive to play.

To many people, saving $75 is more than worth it at the expense of not getting to use some features they wouldn't have used anyway on a couple games that they wouldn't have played anyway.

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