Japanese hardware sales, Oct. 4 - Oct. 10: Mining in Chile edition

@chromekreeper

I wouldn't mind, 69 days away from fanboys would be heaven

@ILT2 Gah, I know! Getting a blu ray player that comes with a rechargeable controller, built in wifi, bluetooth, and free online gaming sounds awful for $300. Doesn't Sony know how terrible it is to have to charge a controller, or to buy a charging stand that can charge 4 controllers at once? They should give us controllers that only take Double A's and that don't come with charging cords, and then expect us to buy a new one to have chargeable controllers. If they do that and make us pay for online, then we'll talk.

Oh, and I heard they eat babies too.

@ILT2

Im confused by your comment.

PS3: $300
360: $300
PC : $500++ for an okay gaming one..

:S

@Faenix for some reason, I always thought the normal 360's were $200....but I looked on Walmart and only the 4GB one is. Combine the cost of Live, even reduced, and that's at least $330 just for total functionality of games, assuming you get the non-4GB console.

I posted before in a sales topic about why I didn't get why the 360 was still selling so well, but this just confuses me even more. I got my 360 as a gift, so I never really paid much attention to prices, but even the core PS3 box comes with more value than this. Even the $30 I mentioned for reduced cost for Xbox Live, you could use that to buy a headset as cheap as the ones that come with the 360. And that's a one time cost, not a recurring one. The console comes with more now, but still, the selling point seems kind of weak when they charge you for something like online on a yearly basis.

@chimpsmith

I dont count the arcade. To me, that thing is the biggest waste of money.

$199.99 for the console, but what if you want more later on? That'll cost you an extra $150+. $50 more, just to save $100 at first. Why bother? Get the ACTUAL 360 console.

@chimpsmith

i really didnt think any fanboyisms would happen by saying what i said, sheesh. i might as well add to where this is going, and say i got a ps3 for 300$, a 360 for $400, but the 360 came with 2 controllers, a cheap mic, a game and a 250GB 360 while the ps3 came by itself at 120GB, so i think the value is the same more or less when you add live into it

@ILT2

The PS3 is overpriced? HA. Funny joke. It's a sweet blu-ray player, awesome gaming machine, also a great source for Netflix.

Kevin Butler inspires me :)

@chimpsmith

It's not about the price of the console, it's the stuff you can put in the console. I expect the 360 still sells well because there's enough 360-only stuff that people want to use/play which justifies the purchase for them. Same goes for the ps3 (hence why lots of gamers have both).

It's all about getting that return investment back.

@chromekreeper well I wasn't counting any bundles or timed deals or stuff like that. I actually managed to get a 160 GB Limited Edition Drake's Fortune PS3 brand new off Sony Style with an extra controller for $300. I was talking about normal prices for items. Unless you find a special deal, you're generally losing money once you add in Live, even with a discount on it. Sure, it's not an enormous difference, but it seems that the PS3 offers a little more value for the core package.

I mean, sure, there are some exclusives that can draw people into buying both systems, but since the most common argument for buying the 360 used to be that most games were on both systems anyways and that the 360 was cheaper, it's kinda lost its touch. Especially since even if you were to manage to get live at $30 a year, it still adds up. And that's supposing that you manage to either repeatedly get discounts like that or just buy multiple Live cards at once.

You can play a lot of the 360 exclusives on a pc too. I'm still kinda of intrigued by Alan Wake, even though I have no idea what it's about. Maybe I'll pick it up when it gets cheaper. BTW, do you have to pay for live to play those games on pc, or does it get free online there? I'm saving up to buy myself a gaming pc, partly in anticipation for the next AOE, but I've never really had much experience with it.

@unknownwarrior33

It would only matter to a fanboy surely? lol

@den69

Some people just can't stand seeing the PSP succeed!

@unknownwarrior33 What relevance would combined figures have for a business?

@unknownwarrior33

More people rebuy the DS than PSP. I can't offer any hard evidence to support this aside from the majority of comments on this very site that support that claim. It's like the iPhone. Everyone I know who owns one has owned several. Those that haven't owned more than 1 version of the iPhone either just couldn't afford it (but wanted a new one) or just got a 3GS after the price drop (but are still excited about eventually getting a new one).

I've certainly seen my fair share of people rebuying the PSP, mostly when it comes to positive comments on the Go (fictional example: "I owned a PSP-1000 before this, so it was worth the upgrade to me"). The PSP Go itself has mostly flopped compared to the DSi, and tons of people who owned a regular DS either got a DS Lite and stopped, or went straight to the DSi (again, based on comments I've read on Joystiq.)

Even knowing that though the DS still comes out on top. While the actual number of owners matters (1 person buys 1000 handhelds that's 999 less people buying games, 1000 people buy 1000 handhelds, that's 1000 potential customers in the market), as far as Nintendo is concerned their handheld is doing amazing. The sheer fact that people will buy updated versions speaks volumes about the quality of the device.

In conclusion, what does it matter if the PSP is listed on top? It's widely known that the DS/DSi has more than double the sales of the PSP in the end.

@unknownwarrior33

Who cares? I doubt Nintendo is sweating where they're sitting on the charts, so why are you?

@unknownwarrior33

Only 3000 and the go are sold. At least I never seen a 1000 or a 2000.

So its PSP 3000 and the PSP go.

@Ezio Auditore da Firenze I have a PSP and play it regularly; that's really not the issue. I was just noting that I thought the article was misleading, particularly for people who don't make the jump.

@Chazzr I really don't get the why the DS does so much better than the psp. I've had a DSI XL for awhile now and only own two games. I just can't find anything i want to play. But when i look at the psp there's all kinds of games i want to play. I just no longer own one. Thanks to the sorry low life's that broke into my house.

@eliteghost

Too soon, Executus, too sooooooon!

@eliteghost
too soon? I didn't hear about any fatalities

@eliteghost Too irrelevant, more like.

@eliteghost

I agree. This is almost as bad as that disrespectful picture Namco did, and Joystiq should apologise for this post immediately.

Now excuse me, I'm late for a PTA meeting where we're trying try to get the word "moist" outlawed.

@den69
In Soviet Russia remainded remains you
ehh?

@den69
It is now.

@PR0F3TA

Apparently they got PSPs (and the cameras obviously) so I'd hardly call it techless. They didn't get porn though (although I heard they had a poster).

@A Sandwich
Whoops, seems like I was 4 minutes too late...

@A Sandwich These aren't done for fanboy war purposes so combining them is besides the point.

@Dr Acula

oh you.

@Dr Acula

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@Dr Acula Comment of the week!

@Shadowbender

Left is how many were sold. Right is how many this week increased or decreased over last week.

@liquidsoap89 Thank you, fine sir.

@Misanthropic Gamer

Joystiq feels the need to remain relevant. They probably would have thrown in a 9/11 reference the week after it happened. Not that I wouldn't find it entertaining.