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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:41PM InkSix said

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Am I the only PC gamer that still loves a box?

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:43PM MacabreArts said

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@InkSix
I just love the huge sales they have. I got L4D2 for seven bucks.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:46PM MLWW said

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@InkSix

You can be on Steam and still love boxes ya know.
The only thing is that Steam has the best sales ever.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:46PM InkSix said

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@MacabreArts

Sigh, yeah those are great. At least I can probably look forward to always getting a box for my MMOs of interest.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:48PM CaptainProtonX said

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@InkSix

No. I prefer them too, but only when there is a sticker saying "$4.99".

Target is a GOD send.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:56PM Rahabib said

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@InkSix
I hate boxes now. Unless its cheaper for me to buy a DVD Id rather download the game. The reason is, I have tons of games. keeping track of boxes or cd-keys are a real pain. With steam you have one login and then you can download and install very easily and then play.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:58PM Uncle Jesse said

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@InkSix

"Am I the only PC gamer that still loves a box?"

Well, apparently I'm the only guy that needs to get his mind out of the gutter. I giggled...
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:01PM Neebick said

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@InkSix
I love not having to track down a disc for a game I installed two months ago.

I bought Half-Life almost 12 years ago. I'm not sure where the box is now but I registered the cd key with Steam. Now I can play it whenever I want from any computer. That is what first won me over to Steam. Plus their sales are awesome.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:01PM acceptablerisk said

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@InkSix
There are a bunch of MMO's available through Steam as it is.

Though really, an MMO seems like the least sensible kind of game for a retail box in the first place. They're tied to an online service by their nature, so you probably can't come back to it many years down the road, so the longevity of physical media is moot. And besides, they're constantly patched, so if it's more than a few months past launch, chances are you're going to redownload a huge chunk of data to replace most of what you've got on the disc, anyway.

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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:22PM Mmmmz said

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@InkSix
Eh, I used to, but then they neutered them by making them DVD cases and then neutered them even more by making them barebones more often than not. Couple that with the insane sales Steam has and I haven't looked back yet.

Now, I get my box love on consoles and my digital love on PC. I would NEVER EVER have it any other way, now.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:23PM KazamaSogetsu said

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@InkSix I love boxes, but Steam is just too damn convenient.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 6:23PM Haizeus said

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@InkSix


With the money you save buying games on Steam you can buy yourself a whole mess of boxes.

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Posted: Oct 19th 2010 1:48AM The Wicker Man said

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@Uncle Jesse Lol I thought you said you JIGGLED. Oh cousin Jesse,YOU and your wife are soooo naughty.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2010 9:09AM djnforce9 said

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@InkSix:

While you and many others miss boxed version, I really don't personally and here is why:

1. They eventually create a lot of clutter once my collection begins to grow. Digital downloads don't take any extra physical space.
2. I can buy and have my games instantly as opposed to waiting for a boxed copy to arrive or driving to a nearby gamestop.
3. Digital versions sometimes have lessened DRM than their retail counterparts (no disc check for starters because there's no disc to check). If I felt like swapping discs all the time, I'd just get a console (although this does not apply to all PC games naturally and Steam is arguably a form of DRM in on itself).
4. My game collection can never be damaged or stolen (although Steam accounts can be hijacked but thankfully there is a recovery process for that)
5. MUCH easier to manage and apply updates. Steam does it for me as the game is installed rather than me having to manually go, download a patch, and install it every single time after the game itself.
6. Some retail games (like Modern Warfare 2) use steam anyway making the retail version completely redundant. They could have very well sold you a piece of paper with an unlock key. The disc's data is likely to be outdated from the start necessitating that you wait for the updates to install anyway.


The ONLY big disadvantage of digital versions vs retail ones that I can think of is that it gives the distributor a LOT of power over you. If Valve pulls the plug on their services, kiss all your games goodbye. Same deal if they decide to ban/disable your account. You are at their mercy in that sense so best not to use them unless you really feel trusting. So far I haven't had a problem yet.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:48PM ONmedz said

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Steam

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:50PM ONmedz said

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@ONmedz x.x joystiq didn't like my heart after the word steam. Can't wait for the holiday sales. :D
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Posted: Oct 19th 2010 1:48AM The Wicker Man said

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@ONmedz I thought you were stating an awesome one word fact.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:50PM Mach2 said

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"enough bandwidth to ship a digitized version of the Oxford English Dictionary 92.6 times per second."
If only porn sites could be that fas--

I MEAN.
UH.
How about that? That's like crazy fast, hm?

Posted: Oct 19th 2010 12:10PM Haywire said

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Why are you downloading dictionaries from porn sites?
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:50PM CaptainProtonX said

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It's what the Internet was made for.

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:54PM SuperShiggs said

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I was there on day one.

I bought Half-Life 2 (on 5 CDs!) from Best Buy, came home to install it, and... well, got hung up on this thing called Steam that had problems letting me create an account, slowed my computer down, and seemed like a pain in the butt since it required an internet connection to do anything cool.

I didn't buy a single game on it until 2007, but I now love it. Good work, Valve.

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:56PM Ezio Auditore da Firenze said

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I wonder if PC gaming would be thriving like it is right now, if not for Steam.

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:00PM Uncle Jesse said

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@Ezio Auditore da Firenze

I think Steam has done a LOT for PC gaming. Speaking for myself, I would probably be completely done with PC gaming by now if it wasn't for Steam.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:04PM Neebick said

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@Ezio Auditore da Firenze
I know that I own copies of the same game on both the 360 and the PC because of Steam.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:10PM MowDownJoe said

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@Uncle Jesse That said, 8 years ago, I doubt we'd think Steam would become as wonderful as it is. Back then, it was just DRM for HL2 that pissed us off? Now? Greatest service ever. Who'd've thunk it?
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:40PM Uncle Jesse said

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@MowDownJoe

Exactly! I remember my buddy wanted me to lend him HL2 when I bought it and I told him that I couldn't because of this thing called Steam. I think I bitched about it to him and we both decided that it sucked right then and there. Turns out, it was actually us that sucked for ever having complained about Steam.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 4:58PM paper said

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Prefer to get my games in the real game owning fashion... They may have great deals but I completely lose my feeling of ownership of my purchase.

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:47PM ShadowOp said

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@paper

Feeling of ownership > Deals

? > Feeling of ownership

Saving money on Deals > ?

It makes sense in my head...
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:12PM Faren22 said

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TF2 matchmaking? We have DEDICATED SERVERS thangyouvrrymuch.

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:31PM The Joy of Painting w Bob Ross said

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Steam: Good for sales and cooking salmon perfectly.

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:36PM Frank the tank said

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i have an account i dont use it that much now since my pc is as out dated as hell but im in the procces of a build an im going all out. I dont have to pay rent so all my money goes to my pc hopefully in 3 weeks ill have it in my hands.

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 5:48PM ZForce915 said

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@Frank the tank

Terrible idea. Going "all out" on a PC is something you regret 6 months down the road.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2010 4:17PM jackal said

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@ZForce915

Says you. Counting my boxed PC games, titles bought from the Impulse store, and the games I bought on Steam, I have at least 113 PC games compared to my library of 8 Wii games, 21 Xbox 360 games, and 24 PS3 games. I bought more PC games in one year than my entire console library combined. For people like me, PC gaming is the way to go.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 6:49PM delicatessen lama said

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I just wish Steam was also a console.

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 7:05PM BoBsS said

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I used to be a digital-download-hating PC gamer but Steam completely changed that for me in the recent years.

Nowadays, I will only buy a Steam version of a game because it is very inconvenient carrying around CDs or having to worry about them.

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 7:54PM intriq said

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best purchase on steam. GTA 4 for $5

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 9:13PM manyquestions said

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@intriq
Portal for free.

Ok, so maybe that doesn't count as a purchase, but it was definitely the greatest thing ever.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 9:11PM Marshillboy said

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"enough bandwidth to ship a digitized version of the Oxford English Dictionary 92.6 times per second."

Sorry, but that's a really poor standard of measurement, even in hypothetical terms. Shipping the oxford english dictionary in what format? What kind of compression? Have you ever compared the size difference of a .txt file and a .pdf file with exactly the same contents? They might as well start measuring in libraries of congress or "twilights" per hour.

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 9:15PM manyquestions said

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@Marshillboy
Actually, I have an a few occasions seen measurements in "libraries of congress", usually for storage space, though, and not download speed.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2010 2:28AM froggeh said

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@Marshillboy

400Gps

400 / 92.6 = 4.32gigs for the oxford dictionary.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2010 2:05PM trendscenedental said

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@Marshillboy
It's not so much a unit of measurement as it is a statement of how awesome their infrastructure is. Who cares about what file type they use? The fact remains that they can do it.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2010 10:01PM The Albatross said

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I feel honored to be one of the early beta downloaders of Steam w/ the CS 1 beta and that awesome CS Bot they had back in the day.

Then I was shocked after having not used my Steam account for like 6 years to re-download it and instantly have all of the games that I had back then.

Posted: Oct 18th 2010 11:21PM wcarnation said

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TF2 Matchmaking? Oh you kids and your game consoles!

Posted: Oct 19th 2010 1:49AM The Wicker Man said

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@ctg867 Your negativity does not impress us.

Posted: Oct 19th 2010 2:22AM froggeh said

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@ctg867

"over six million unique gamers accessing Steam each day."

http://store.steampowered.com/news/4502/

almost hit 3 million concurrent users

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

Posted: Oct 19th 2010 11:07AM UnReal31337 said

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Just for the record, ever since I starting playing Team Fortress 2 on my MacBook pro, I've been playing way better getting more kills and points than I ever did on any Windows machine.

Posted: Oct 19th 2010 11:09AM UnReal31337 said

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I'd love to add the new TF2 store Valve is probably making millions off of every day with people buying weapons and accessories.

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