The reaction to Dante's new look for the Devil May Cry reboot had Capcom asking, "Why so serious?" The publisher's VP of Strategic Planning and Biz Dev. Christian Svensson told IGN that the company knew Dante's new look would bring a "knee-jerk reaction from fans." He said, "To be fair, I think some of the strategy here was to create that discussion and dialogue, and I think it drastically raises the visibility of the title versus if we had just done another Dante."
He explained the original concepts that came back for the new Dante were too close to the flamboyant source material. Capcom's Keiji Inafune and Hideaki Itsuno weren't having any of that and told the team to, according to Svensson, be "much more creative." Svensson explains that, "This is meant to be an origin story, so this is Dante before you knew who Dante was." Wait, you mean he was more than that guy with the white hair, wearing a red leather trench coat? Surprising, 'cause that's all we can seem to remember about him.
Reader Comments (94)
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:02PM IGLAW said
Silly Capcom, all you need is an airport terrorism scene.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:06PM TheSaiyan said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfdzyIrd89U
Bring back that Dante and I think we'll all be happy
Bring back that Dante and I think we'll all be happy
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:06PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
His redesign isn't what makes it sticks out for me. It's the develope and the fact that I have never played a decent fast paced hack 'n slash on Unreal engine.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:06PM billysea said
I agree with them though.
Had they just created another same-y looking DMC, it will just stuck in the same dwindling fanbase.
Had they just created another same-y looking DMC, it will just stuck in the same dwindling fanbase.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:07PM jblank said
Does anyone really care about this franchise anymore? The last one hit $29.99 in what, a month? I don't hear anyone ever mention DMC anywhere.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:14PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@jblank
Considering they just added Dante in Marvel vs. Capcom 3 I'd say it's still pretty relevant. I think everyone is forgetting how important Devil May Cry was to the whole genre. The formula of the first Devil May Cry was used in God of War and every hack n' slash since.
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Considering they just added Dante in Marvel vs. Capcom 3 I'd say it's still pretty relevant. I think everyone is forgetting how important Devil May Cry was to the whole genre. The formula of the first Devil May Cry was used in God of War and every hack n' slash since.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:27PM Assmar said
@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2
Except Ninja Gaiden which was superior in every way. Who is in MvC3 seems the opposite of relevant. Amaterasu is up in there, and I don't see her getting a new game any time soon. I know there is a game coming out, but it's, again, a reboot of the series with a complete makeover.
What's wrong with a game about Dante in his youth before he went gray?
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Except Ninja Gaiden which was superior in every way. Who is in MvC3 seems the opposite of relevant. Amaterasu is up in there, and I don't see her getting a new game any time soon. I know there is a game coming out, but it's, again, a reboot of the series with a complete makeover.
What's wrong with a game about Dante in his youth before he went gray?
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:34PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@Assmar
I don't think anything is wrong with it, if you'll see my post above. I just don't approve of the devs or the engine. Also, Modern Ninja Gaiden (IE 3D version) first came out in 2004. Devil May Cry came out in 2001. Ninja Gaiden was heavily influenced by Devil May Cry. It should be superior since it came out 3 years later. My point was, Devil May Cry defined the genre so it's sort of annoying when people act like it's a dead or useless series. That's like saying Mario is an old and tired series for platformers.
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I don't think anything is wrong with it, if you'll see my post above. I just don't approve of the devs or the engine. Also, Modern Ninja Gaiden (IE 3D version) first came out in 2004. Devil May Cry came out in 2001. Ninja Gaiden was heavily influenced by Devil May Cry. It should be superior since it came out 3 years later. My point was, Devil May Cry defined the genre so it's sort of annoying when people act like it's a dead or useless series. That's like saying Mario is an old and tired series for platformers.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:42PM Assmar said
@TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2
I might not say that about Mario because those games are still fun to play, but had you put Resident Evil out there, you might get some mixed reactions. Some people like terrible games, and so they hold tight to the false notion that RE4 ruined the series. Of course they would be wrong, because this is a clear instance in which change benefited a series.
You are absolutely effing right about Ninja Theory though. Still, DMC 3 and 4 came out after the Ninja Gaiden reboot, and to many people it appeared that they learned nothing in 4 years, which is why we've arrived to this contentious situation today.
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I might not say that about Mario because those games are still fun to play, but had you put Resident Evil out there, you might get some mixed reactions. Some people like terrible games, and so they hold tight to the false notion that RE4 ruined the series. Of course they would be wrong, because this is a clear instance in which change benefited a series.
You are absolutely effing right about Ninja Theory though. Still, DMC 3 and 4 came out after the Ninja Gaiden reboot, and to many people it appeared that they learned nothing in 4 years, which is why we've arrived to this contentious situation today.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:51PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@Assmar
I'm not saying it shouldn't evolve, I encourage that. The only thing I'm saying is that it has it's place in video game history, that's it.
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I'm not saying it shouldn't evolve, I encourage that. The only thing I'm saying is that it has it's place in video game history, that's it.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:57PM The Joy of Painting w Bob Ross said
@Assmar
Capcom themselves classified Okamiden as both a "spiritual successor" and "spin-off". It was never called a "reboot" by anyone.
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Capcom themselves classified Okamiden as both a "spiritual successor" and "spin-off". It was never called a "reboot" by anyone.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 3:01PM Acosta02 said
@Assmar
Uh... where is this information coming from? I've never heard any talk of Okamiden being a reboot before.
http://www.1up.com/news/okamiden-hits
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Uh... where is this information coming from? I've never heard any talk of Okamiden being a reboot before.
http://www.1up.com/news/okamiden-hits
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 3:14PM Assmar said
@The Joy of Painting w Bob Ross
Yeah, I was under the impression that I was still looking forward to the game, and was surprised by comments that implied it was already out. The amazon description says it's a sequel, very clearly, that will star the offspring of Amaterasu as the main character.
@TraceurRyuk
Yes, of course it has its place in gaming history.
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Yeah, I was under the impression that I was still looking forward to the game, and was surprised by comments that implied it was already out. The amazon description says it's a sequel, very clearly, that will star the offspring of Amaterasu as the main character.
@TraceurRyuk
Yes, of course it has its place in gaming history.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:08PM BlackedOut said
I seriously thought that was a shopped photo of the guy who plays Harry Potter in the movies.
I have never fully played a DMC title, simply missed the boat, but I think there is a bit of overreaction from the fanbase...
I have never fully played a DMC title, simply missed the boat, but I think there is a bit of overreaction from the fanbase...
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:34PM RollingSun2000 said
@BlackedOut
Imagine if Mickey Mouse was no longer a black mouse with red shorts.
Or Donald Duck was green.
Or Winnie the Pooh was grey with a blue shirt.
Do you see my point? After 4 games and a Anime series Capcom decide to change their iconic figure.
And I know what you mean about “fully playing” a DMC title. I have DMC1 and DMC3 and I find them absolutely impossible to play. They are far to “twitchy” for my feeble wrists. :)
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Imagine if Mickey Mouse was no longer a black mouse with red shorts.
Or Donald Duck was green.
Or Winnie the Pooh was grey with a blue shirt.
Do you see my point? After 4 games and a Anime series Capcom decide to change their iconic figure.
And I know what you mean about “fully playing” a DMC title. I have DMC1 and DMC3 and I find them absolutely impossible to play. They are far to “twitchy” for my feeble wrists. :)
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 7:21PM Mouthsmasher said
When I saw the picture, all I thought was that it was a loose rip off of the Joker from The Dark Knight. Green hair, black eyes, scarred mouth, white skin...
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Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:10PM NaeemTHM said
"This is meant to be an origin story, so this is Dante before you knew who Dante was."
Wasn't that DMC3?
Wasn't that DMC3?
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:53PM Youthinized said
@NaeemTHM
It's a prequel of a prequel.
The next installment after this one will be Dante in his toddler years and that's going to have more uproar because he has neither white or black hair, he's bald, because of his devilish brother for putting a curse on him in the preschool yard.
It's going to be great.
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It's a prequel of a prequel.
The next installment after this one will be Dante in his toddler years and that's going to have more uproar because he has neither white or black hair, he's bald, because of his devilish brother for putting a curse on him in the preschool yard.
It's going to be great.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 3:10PM glemtvapen said
@jobocan
Now a Sparda (or maybe even Vergil) game will be a game that must be played. Granted that Capcom doesn't screw that one also.
Dante has already died in my eyes...
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Now a Sparda (or maybe even Vergil) game will be a game that must be played. Granted that Capcom doesn't screw that one also.
Dante has already died in my eyes...
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:10PM Gaddes said
I'd be fine if this was a bait and switch, where this current new Dante was a gag and then they show us the REAL new Dante... but I doubt that will happen. Yeah, you're going to get visibility, but with a scrawny, emo, wuss-looking character like that, I think it's going to backfire on you. I mean, jesus, at least give him some clothes that FIT, for chrissakes. He doesn't look like a badass; he looks like he needs to go cut up his wrists and pain his room black. Ugh.
Plus, it really doesn't help that the design looks like its based off of the guy from Ninja Theory. If anything it looks incredibly vain.
Plus, it really doesn't help that the design looks like its based off of the guy from Ninja Theory. If anything it looks incredibly vain.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:13PM Assmar said
"weren't having none"?
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:19PM LightShow said
Am I the only one that thinks this new Dante is 100x more "flamboyant" than the source material (ie. old Dante)? I hear all this talk about how they wanted to toughen Dante up, but the new guy is totally the opposite in my eyes.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:22PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@LightShow
Did you really just ask if you were the only one that thought that?
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Did you really just ask if you were the only one that thought that?
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:39PM TraceurRyuk Prepping for LBP2 said
@LightShow
My dickery just comes out naturally. So I'm just most likely going to be a douche.
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My dickery just comes out naturally. So I'm just most likely going to be a douche.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 3:12PM Crayola Q Pants ESQ said
@LightShow
Yeah, I have no idea how this guy is less flamboyent than the old Dante. Perhaps red coat = flamboyent in Capcom's dictionary.
I don't even know if flamboyent is the correct term. Neither I would really say is flamboyent per se. This one is however, less manly looking, to my untrained eyes.
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Yeah, I have no idea how this guy is less flamboyent than the old Dante. Perhaps red coat = flamboyent in Capcom's dictionary.
I don't even know if flamboyent is the correct term. Neither I would really say is flamboyent per se. This one is however, less manly looking, to my untrained eyes.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 3:31PM Mayor West said
@LightShow
Nope. In fact, I was going to just post basically the same thing.
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Nope. In fact, I was going to just post basically the same thing.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:22PM NathanDTS said
Called the publicity angle from the start!
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:23PM Ezio Auditore da Firenze said
You wanna know how I got this scar....?
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:31PM LiqwidZero said
@Ezio Auditore da Firenze
He got carried away with the butter knife and got peanut butter everywhere. Quickly removing the knife, he slashed his mouth.
At least, that's how it looks like it went down...
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He got carried away with the butter knife and got peanut butter everywhere. Quickly removing the knife, he slashed his mouth.
At least, that's how it looks like it went down...
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 7:45PM DevilSei said
@Ezio Auditore da Firenze
Naw... looks like he was taking a drag of a cigarette while writing in his diary in his own blood. He got careless, and while being used to chewing on a pen in thought, went to chew on his razor blade...
The other half of the mouth he did just to make it match and be non conformist.
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Naw... looks like he was taking a drag of a cigarette while writing in his diary in his own blood. He got careless, and while being used to chewing on a pen in thought, went to chew on his razor blade...
The other half of the mouth he did just to make it match and be non conformist.
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:24PM ToastyToasy said
Has anyone noticed that the people saying the fans are overreacting about the new Dante are the same people who say they're not fans of DMC in the first place?
It's pretty easy to act like it's no big deal when you don't care about it in the first place.
Let's say tomorrow they announced a new God of War. This new GoW is to be developed by... Let's say Yuke's. For no reason.
Kratos needs a new look of course, so let's get rid of the goatee and red markings on his face. Make him look like he's on heroin and give him dreadlocks. Instead of his usual outfit, let's give him baggy jeans and a wife-beater.
And make him drink beer. Gotta have that to make him look hardcore, amirite?
On top of all this, this new Kratos is here to stay. Surprise! It's a reboot! 8D
Goodbye old Kratos~
Now, if this happened, I wouldn't give a shit. I'm not a fan of God of War or Kratos.
Of course, the Kratos fans WOULD give a shit. They'd be outraged. They'd be complaining constantly and be infuriated with the developers and such.
So just because I don't care about the series in the first place, should I just act like it's no big deal? Should I act like it's perfectly okay that they did this? Does that sound right to anyone here?
"You guys are just overreacting, so what if the main character looks different, the gameplay could still be fun, durr hurr."
Yeah. Sure. DMC fans are overreacting all right. :/
It's pretty easy to act like it's no big deal when you don't care about it in the first place.
Let's say tomorrow they announced a new God of War. This new GoW is to be developed by... Let's say Yuke's. For no reason.
Kratos needs a new look of course, so let's get rid of the goatee and red markings on his face. Make him look like he's on heroin and give him dreadlocks. Instead of his usual outfit, let's give him baggy jeans and a wife-beater.
And make him drink beer. Gotta have that to make him look hardcore, amirite?
On top of all this, this new Kratos is here to stay. Surprise! It's a reboot! 8D
Goodbye old Kratos~
Now, if this happened, I wouldn't give a shit. I'm not a fan of God of War or Kratos.
Of course, the Kratos fans WOULD give a shit. They'd be outraged. They'd be complaining constantly and be infuriated with the developers and such.
So just because I don't care about the series in the first place, should I just act like it's no big deal? Should I act like it's perfectly okay that they did this? Does that sound right to anyone here?
"You guys are just overreacting, so what if the main character looks different, the gameplay could still be fun, durr hurr."
Yeah. Sure. DMC fans are overreacting all right. :/
Posted: Oct 21st 2010 2:33PM Assmar said
@ToastyToasy
You have ever right to be upset about it. I'd be butthurt too if the publisher of one of my favorite games decided to change that game to try and recruit more sales because they weren't making enough money off me and other fans of the game.
*cough*
Resident Evil
Prince of Persia
Okami
Get over it.
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You have ever right to be upset about it. I'd be butthurt too if the publisher of one of my favorite games decided to change that game to try and recruit more sales because they weren't making enough money off me and other fans of the game.
*cough*
Resident Evil
Prince of Persia
Okami
Get over it.
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